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Thursday, December 9, 2010

CA DMV Employee Sends Hateful Letter to Home of Trans Woman

Posted by on Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 5:25 PM

MSNBC:

A transgender woman on Thursday filed a claim against the California Department of Motor Vehicles, saying the clerk who handled her application for a new driver's license sent her a letter at home calling her gender change a "very evil decision" that would condemn her to hell.

Amber Yust, 23, said the clerk at the department's San Francisco office processed her application for a license with her female name in October. She received the letter addressed to her old name, David, four days later. It identified the writer as the person who processed Yust's application.

"Although I helped you with the name change, I have to say I do not support the reason for it," says the letter, signed with only a first name and typed on plain paper. "I also do not believe the state's recognition of it—through official documents—makes it legitimate or any less evil."

The Christian haters are gonna insist that any attempt to discipline this DMV clerk—this piece of shit should be fired—would constitute an attack on his religious freedom, on the 1st Amendment, on Christianity, on the baby Jesus right before his birthday, etc., etc. Just like they want pharmacists to have the right to deny you access to medications that they disapprove of, the religious haters will argue that this piece of shit has a God-given right to send hate mail to women who just wanna get their fucking drivers licenses.

Oh, and...

Yust's lawyer, Chris Dolan, said he and staff members at the nonprofit Transgender Law Center in San Francisco think the worker who wrote Yust is a DMV clerk who was disciplined last year for allegedly telling another transgender woman that he did not want to help her and "God will send you to hell."

Fire the motherfucker already.

 

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DMVKUNT
Posted by masgroovy on December 9, 2010 at 5:29 PM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 2
Yeah, well, in most states, including where I am, she wouldn't even have been able to get the name change. I guess that's something.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on December 9, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Fnarf 3
I don't think you can fire a California state employee even if he had killed and eaten her right there in the DMV office.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on December 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM
despicable me 4
Now y'all see exactly what the fucking problem is down here in California. Damn state workers that are almost "guaranteed" they CANNOT be fired unless there they commit an extremely grievous faux pas. It seriously boggles the mind.
Posted by despicable me on December 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM
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But in California she CAN get the name change. And DMV clerks should know it. Fire that goddamn public servant! What an asshole.
Posted by LuisitaPhD on December 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM
JunieGirl 6
I thought the DMV sucked BEFORE...
Posted by JunieGirl on December 9, 2010 at 5:52 PM
despicable me 7
Fnarf, that's what I'm saying. Doesn't matter what they do, who they did it to or why. This is some of the most inane shit you'll ever hear of when it comes to state government.
Posted by despicable me on December 9, 2010 at 5:52 PM
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What the DMV worker did is seriously fucked up, but what freaks me out the most is that this woman was able to look up/remember Amber's address to send this horrible condemnation. Someone who can't keep their religious damnation to themselves shouldn't have access to information like that, IMO.
Posted by breelligerent on December 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM
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The DMV's clerk job is to process applications and licenses within the legal guidelines set up by the state. Freedom of religion means an individual is allowed to hold private belief and worship as he/she chooses. Freedom of religion does not mean that a state employee gets to make up his or her rules.

If this clerk finds the job so objectionable, the clerk should go to work--perhaps processing forms in a church or seminary.

If the clerk is incapable of doing the job without intentionally insulting the clients, the state should fire the fucker.
Posted by Clayton on December 9, 2010 at 6:22 PM
venomlash 10
That's just harassment. And since the clerk used state resources (i.e., whatever documents at the DMV that had the lady's address on them) to commit harassment, he ABSOLUTELY should lose his job.
Posted by venomlash on December 9, 2010 at 6:51 PM
11
I'm surprised they are suing for only $25K.
Posted by slugbiker http://www.seattlescrabble.org on December 9, 2010 at 7:01 PM
Sketch 12
I went to the MSNBC article and read the comments. Big mistake. :(
Posted by Sketch on December 9, 2010 at 7:14 PM
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@8, @10 What that DMV employee did was commit a crime, stealing private information from a State database for personal use. There are laws against that, including ones designed to prevent identity theft. Federal ones, too. Fuck firing him. Put the motherfucker in jail.

Then, firing him gets much simpler.

Yeah, the pissant act of harassment is what should really get punished, but going after him for illegally taking statutorily protected data is a whole lot easier to convict on, and devoid of political complications.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on December 9, 2010 at 7:28 PM
14
At least pharmacists are self-employed.

Hopefully this civil servant will soon be unemployed... and not receiving unemployment!
Posted by madcap on December 9, 2010 at 7:56 PM
15
FTMFA? Wait...
Posted by Um on December 9, 2010 at 7:58 PM
16
I agree, the DMV clerk committed an illegal act of harassment and invasion of privacy.
Posted by Forlorn on December 9, 2010 at 8:28 PM
wisepunk 17
I would think that there is a published privacy policy for the California DMV. I'm sure that by using that private information to harass a person she is in violation of the policy. I expect a firing quickly, or the DMV is going to find itself in an even worse position
Posted by wisepunk on December 9, 2010 at 8:30 PM
sugar2s 18
Fire him. And then rehire him, just for the fun of firing him again. Repeat as necessary.
Posted by sugar2s on December 9, 2010 at 8:34 PM
Hawke 19
#19 asshole spammer.

I know! Let me have 15 minutes alone with him!
Posted by Hawke http://facebook.com/thehawke on December 9, 2010 at 9:11 PM
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I agree with 13 and 17. I'm certain the DMV employee made improper use of personal identity information. That's against the law. I expect she will be fired for it. I sometimes have access to private information in my job, and even if I wrote a very nice letter to a customer, I'd be fired for mis-use of the information and violating privacy laws.
Posted by Puzzlegal on December 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM
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DistrictAttorney@sfgov.org

Just sent an email and copied a whole mess of people, encouraging them to do the same. I doubt much will happen, but I'd like to at least hear that the DA/Police are looking into it in order to deter future incidents of this kind of bullshit.
Posted by Nate on December 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Rose DeCastile 22
Savage posting on trans shit?! must...be...snar...aw, fuck it. Thanks for posting this and being an awesome ally to trans people Dan
Posted by Rose DeCastile on December 10, 2010 at 12:09 AM
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Obviously. It makes me sick that this happened in my city! I don't care what some bitch thinks his religious freedoms allow. If you use your access to government records to send any kind of personal communication to someone who only gave you that information with the understanding that it was going to be used professionally...your ass should be fired!
Posted by LukeJoe on December 10, 2010 at 1:08 AM
watchout5 24
Freedom of religion doesn't give you the right to tell other people how they can act. In protecting your own religious freedom to judge everyone around you, you fail to respect the religious freedom of everyone around you. In the eyes of the law, it's not so much freedom OF religion as it is freedom FROM religion. I love her, "I do not support the reason for [the sex change] it", I'm curious, at what point did this ignoramus ask, and listen, to her reasons for a sex change? My question assumes she didn't, but I am curious to know if she thinks she knows why. Ignorance is religion.
Posted by watchout5 http://www.overclockeddrama.com on December 10, 2010 at 1:23 AM
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Question: Not to generalize, stigmatize, pigeon-hole, or otherwise make assumptions about life in San Francisco, but why on EARTH would someone who is this intolerant, close-minded, bigoted, and hateful choose to work with the public in one of the most gay and trans-friendly places on the planet?! Granted, I don't live in SF and have only visited there once, but is my understanding of SF culture incorrect? Go get a job at the Provo, UT DMV if you don't want to deal with transgender people you sick sonofabitch!*

*Note to Sloggers: I'm kidding - I know there may be transgender people in Provo, UT.
Posted by nyker on December 10, 2010 at 1:24 AM
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Freedom of religion has nothing to do with this. It's about professionalism. Personal notes sent in official documents? Opinions offered on standard administrative processes? Unacceptable in any circumstance, even factoring out the hatefulness driving it. That this DMV worker should be fired is a no-brainer under any standards.
Posted by JrzWrld on December 10, 2010 at 3:47 AM
Vince 27
Where in this dickwad's bible does it say that transgender women are going to imaginary hell? Those religious morons make this shit up and then claim religious freedom? Bullshit!
Posted by Vince on December 10, 2010 at 4:34 AM
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This has nothing to do with freedom of religion. This has to do with privacy laws, and confidentiality. In order to get a job with the DMV, where you have access to personal information, you would have to sign some sort of confidentiality document, and this is a clear contravention of that. Even if state employees have a very strong union, I doubt it protects them from being fired if they break the law. It's the personal use of confidential information that is the clear handle here - even if the douchbag used the info to sell Amway, or invite people to her birthday party.
Posted by agony on December 10, 2010 at 5:33 AM
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how do you include links without a registered account?

we are in awe......
Posted by trolll on December 10, 2010 at 5:45 AM
30
Prepare Yourselves, People:

In the Qunited States of Gaymerica
EVERYONE must believe as Dan does....
Posted by YOU'RE FIRED! on December 10, 2010 at 6:24 AM
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@2 Where do you live that trans people cannot change their names and have the drivers license changed to reflect it? I'm pretty sure every state allows it, though some require more red tape than others.
Posted by thalia on December 10, 2010 at 7:14 AM
32
He's protesting WAY too much... he probably just wanted a date.
Posted by wickedson on December 10, 2010 at 7:21 AM
Rotten666 33
@34 yup. This guys beats off to tranny pron. Guaranteed.
Posted by Rotten666 on December 10, 2010 at 7:26 AM
34
Firing will be a good start - this is likely a criminal violation of privacy and civil rights protections under California law.
Posted by Gendun on December 10, 2010 at 9:52 AM
35
@30 "Prepare Yourselves, People:

In the Qunited States of Gaymerica
EVERYONE must believe as Dan does....
Posted by YOU'RE FIRED"

Thank god for that. PS: Fuck off, Stormfronter.
Posted by i can't wait to hear what you think about mexicans & blacks on December 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM
36
@30 "Prepare Yourselves, People:

In the Qunited States of Gaymerica
EVERYONE must believe as Dan does....
Posted by YOU'RE FIRED"

Thank god for that. PS: Fuck off, Stormfronter.
Posted by i can't wait to hear what you think about mexicans & blacks on December 10, 2010 at 10:13 AM
37
Whatever technicality it takes.

Having spent the morning talking to yet ANOTHER polite liberal federal govt employee trying to tell me we can't dare to worry too loudly about queer people, I sure hope someone can at least protect people at the state level, even if it IS via a technicality.

I'm trying to remember why I thought things were going to be different after we got rid of Bush. You know, somehow I thought that people would actually have their civil rights protected, and enforced by the government (not fucking UNDONE by the government) and that we could AT LEAST talk about sex and sexual minorities openly.

Gotta love a country where a trans person has to consider that if she goes to a GOVERNMENT OFFICE she might get hate-bashed.
Posted by Alice Dreger http://www.alicedreger.com on December 10, 2010 at 10:18 AM
John Horstman 38
@7: This would certainly be a grievous violation here in WI. As a state employee with access to personal information, if I use any of the private information to which I have access (or release it in any fashion) for something not work-related, I not only get fired, I'm subject to criminal prosecution. This includes contact information that has not been explicitly made public. This case should be a HUGE concern to everyone concerned with privacy rights (that would include all of those members of the Religious Right who think Big Gum'ment is an evil Nazi Socialist scheme that wants to force them to give up Christianity and turn them into slaves).
Posted by John Horstman on December 10, 2010 at 10:42 AM
Kevin_BGFH 39
The DMV clerk violated DMV policy, California state law, and U.S. federal law (specifically, Chapter 123 of Title 18 of the United States Code). Getting fired *immediately* will hopefully be the least of his worries.
Posted by Kevin_BGFH http://biggayfrathouse.typepad.com/blog/ on December 10, 2010 at 10:54 AM
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From the SF Chronicle:
Yust's lawyers identified the employee as Thomas Demartini...

DMV spokesman Armando Botello said the department would not comment on the complaint. He also said the DMV would not disclose whether the employee still works there or has been the subject of any disciplinary action, because "it's a personnel matter."
Posted by beccoid on December 10, 2010 at 11:24 AM
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Okay, but why are transgenders so ugly?
Posted by Jairus on December 11, 2010 at 8:43 PM
Misha Vargas 42
@41

Ugly minds see ugly things.
Posted by Misha Vargas http://www.youtube.com/MishaVargas on December 11, 2010 at 9:27 PM
santamonicatom 43
I think someone needs a good ass-kickin'.
Posted by santamonicatom on December 12, 2010 at 2:04 PM

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