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2012 Evangelical Supergroup Pools Santorum Support
Posted by Paul Constant on Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:13 AM
The week before the South Carolina primary, evangelicals are throwing all their support behind Rick Santorum.
Former senator Rick Santorum has emerged as the choice of more than 150 evangelical leaders who huddled at a Texas ranch Friday night to debate their preferred candidate in the GOP presidential race.
The move represents an eleventh-hour effort by social conservatives one week out from the crucial South Carolina primary to unify around a single candidate and blunt the momentum of former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, whom many evangelicals consider insufficiently conservative.
Is "insufficiently conservative" a code-word for "too Mormon?" It'll be interesting to see if this matters in South Carolina, and what the evangelicals will do when Romney eventually wins the nomination.
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You know, this electoral season is enough to make me sick, and I wouldn't pay any attention to it at all except that it is so DAMN entertaining!
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Puh-leeze! These people will be rallying around Romney before you can say "Mormon." Like all good Nazis, they fall in line.
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@2 .. if you think so and don't know the difference between a nazi and a conservative evangelical, then you probably can't tell the difference between your ass and a hole in the ground.
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What a comedy of errors! Sometimes I think Tony Perkins is a mole who's actually working to advance gay rights and other progressive causes.
Have these tone-deaf losers looked at the polls? Santorum is in fourth place and falling fast in SC. Even their evangelical masses aren't waiting to be told what to do.
These clowns missed the boat last time around when they should have gotten behind Huckabee, whom they shunned until far too late in the process.
Have these tone-deaf losers looked at the polls? Santorum is in fourth place and falling fast in SC. Even their evangelical masses aren't waiting to be told what to do.
These clowns missed the boat last time around when they should have gotten behind Huckabee, whom they shunned until far too late in the process.
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Yeah, they're getting behind the biggest loser (besides Perry, of course, but he doesn't count) right when they should be consolidating the right. The fractured right is why Romney's been leading the whole time.
Anything that keeps Santorum in the race as long as possible is fine with me.
Anything that keeps Santorum in the race as long as possible is fine with me.
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Paul,
I believe if Romney wins the nomination, Rick Santorum will be on the ticket to offset conservative evangelical Christians fear that Romney is too liberal. Just a prediction, nothing more nothing less.
I believe if Romney wins the nomination, Rick Santorum will be on the ticket to offset conservative evangelical Christians fear that Romney is too liberal. Just a prediction, nothing more nothing less.
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There's nothing hidden going on here. The GOP is propped up by two main arms: the money from the bankers and the populace of the evangelicals. The bankers want Romney because he's their lap dog, and the evangelicals hate Mormons more than they hate atheists. The party is splitting because the GOP has no public leaders. The closest thing they've got is Liimbaugh. No one on any of those debates were there as themselves, they only represent hidden forces. (You can certainly argue that the same is true for the Dems, but there's a massive difference in scale.)
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The next time you're in South Carolina, don't forget to visit The Pools of Santorum, the South's most disgusting water park.
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@8 I considered this scenario. But the evangelicals are throwing in with a Catholic. And I thought Catholics believed anybody but a Catholic went to hell just like the evagelicals believe everybody but evangelicals went to hell. So it wouldn't surprise me if they throw in with a Mormon. American politics has been turned on it's head by the election of Obama.
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What @2 said. They ignore all sorts of mortal sins when committed by their guy. And @5--- you are wrong, there is hardly a rat's cunt hair-breadth's difference behind these authoritarian militaristic fucks and Nazis.
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I grew up in a very evangelical community ('burbs of Atlanta) and have been saying for years that people outside the Bible Belt really underestimate evangelical antipathy towards Mormons. I find the fact that Romney has managed to (so far) remain the frontrunner kind of stunning.
Santorum's Catholicism is only slightly more acceptable to most of these guys, but in terms of the hot-button social issues, he's clearly the candidate of evangelicals that put social conservatism first.
But then again, the south hasn't voted yet. We'll see.
Santorum's Catholicism is only slightly more acceptable to most of these guys, but in terms of the hot-button social issues, he's clearly the candidate of evangelicals that put social conservatism first.
But then again, the south hasn't voted yet. We'll see.
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Let them waste their money and effort, it will divert them for a time and in the end avail them liitle more than setting Santorum up as a pundit. Santorum never had a chance at the presidency and he knows it. His campaign, like Cain's is designed to garner enough support to fund a selfl-created PAC, funded by the delusional, from which he can pay himself a salary. He will have a comfortable future living on these proceeds, speaking fees and the left-overs from his campaign war-chest. He will pop up on television as a conservative pundit and spew his frothy mix over and over again for years to come.
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As nice as it sounds, I'm not getting my hopes up that Santorum will stick around and split the vote.
Santorum's a career politician who's never done anything else. He knows that in national elections the one who splits the vote takes the blame, and he doesn't have enough tea-party support or indie cred to stay in politics without the GOP.
Splitting the vote would take someone crazy like Bachmann or Gingrich... Ron Paul has his son's career to think about this time, so while he could do it, I wouldn't bet on it.
Santorum's a career politician who's never done anything else. He knows that in national elections the one who splits the vote takes the blame, and he doesn't have enough tea-party support or indie cred to stay in politics without the GOP.
Splitting the vote would take someone crazy like Bachmann or Gingrich... Ron Paul has his son's career to think about this time, so while he could do it, I wouldn't bet on it.
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All the candidates sent reps to the meeting, except Huntsman (I would heart you if you weren't so anti women's reproductive rights). The council voted 3 times (which seems kinda odd) and only 2/3 voted for Santorum. I'm guessing that other 1/3 will go with the party line, but I'd love to know what their preference was.
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lark @ 8: No, if Romney throws a bone to the right, he'll pick Rubio from Florida or Christie from New Jersey. Santorum is this year's Huckabee or Dean.
bleedingheartlibertarian @ 13: You are correct about the antipathy towards Mormons amongst Evangelicals. I think that's been really under reported. What it could mean is a really easy Obama victory if there is third party conservative running (even Paul) that would peel away support from Romney.
bleedingheartlibertarian @ 13: You are correct about the antipathy towards Mormons amongst Evangelicals. I think that's been really under reported. What it could mean is a really easy Obama victory if there is third party conservative running (even Paul) that would peel away support from Romney.
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This week, in simple answers to simple questions:
Is "insufficiently conservative" a code-word for "too Mormon?"
No, it's a code-word for "Mormon".
Is "insufficiently conservative" a code-word for "too Mormon?"
No, it's a code-word for "Mormon".
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@17: Not Santorum, for sure. He couldn't even deliver his own state. Maybe Rubio, maybe Jindal from Louisiana. I don't see Christy happening. Two people from the northeast? Not gonna happen.
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When I was a kid in the 1960s I wore my hair short, and refused to wear bell bottoms because I didn't want to be a hippy.
As conservative as I was as an 8 year old....Donnie and Marie were considered way, way more straight than me!
So with Romney, it's amazing that a person like him is not considered "conservative enough"...it's more a measure of the extremism on both sides.
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I don't think "insufficiently conservative" is code for "too Mormon". I think it's code for "insufficiently committed to homophobia and banning abortion".
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Dear Jesus: if you make Santorum the nominee and make him choose Bachmann as his running mate, I will blow you.
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Hahaha. Just when I thought the republican primary would settle into something dull, the evangelicals perk up to keep it entertaining.
Yes, yes. Please vote for santorum. Keep him in the race as long as possible.
Yes, yes. Please vote for santorum. Keep him in the race as long as possible.
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@13 is right. If the evangelical voters of South Carolina are anything like my family in Tennessee, Romney's Mormonism is going to be a problem. The question is whether they'll vote at all.
You see, Southern Christian Republicans still don't like any of their options. Romney's too Mormon and liberal, Paul's too anti-military, Perry's too stupid, Gingrich is a dickbag, and they know about Santorum's google problem. My conservative uncle was telling me during the holidays how he wished that Condoleeza Rice would jump in the race, and my entire family (except me and my Dad) agreed with him. The fact is, the smart Republicans aren't running because they know they have a better shot in 2016.
The best we can hope for is to keep Santorum in the race as long as possible to discredit the GOP even more.
You see, Southern Christian Republicans still don't like any of their options. Romney's too Mormon and liberal, Paul's too anti-military, Perry's too stupid, Gingrich is a dickbag, and they know about Santorum's google problem. My conservative uncle was telling me during the holidays how he wished that Condoleeza Rice would jump in the race, and my entire family (except me and my Dad) agreed with him. The fact is, the smart Republicans aren't running because they know they have a better shot in 2016.
The best we can hope for is to keep Santorum in the race as long as possible to discredit the GOP even more.
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Actually this is good for Mitt.
Santorum isn't going to win the nomination but the longer he hangs in there the longer the fundy vote is splintered.
And Santorum has been smart enough not to bad mouth Mitt.
Had the Texas gathering gotten behind Newt it would have been more problematic for Romney.
As it is, Mitt gets the nomination and Santorum and all his fundy support fill out the ticket.
A Romney/Santorum ticket actually has pretty broad Center-Right appeal.
The the 'google' problem is no problem at all.
Anyone who will be voting for Romney/Santorum will see it as a total disgusting dick move.
In fact, if anyone in that demographic has ever heard of Danny (not many....) the fact that Danny hates Santorum will be all the reason they need to support him.
You girls misjudge how the google "problem" will play if it ever reaches the light of day:
associating someone's name with poop is a third grade stunt. literally. sure you apes don't get that, and see it as really witty and cool, but- no.
the two facts anyone/everyone in Real America will carry away from the 'google' cleverness are:
1- Feces? Damn that's disgusting. What filthy perverts....
and
2- Wow that Danny is a malicious retarded little Prick- his mother must've snorted a buttload of crack when she was pregnant.
and if the 'google' thing actually seeds the light of day conservatives will force Obama to repudiate it as an inappropriate dick head stunt and there you will be with the Chosen One forced to confess that Danny is an immature Prick.
so, keep it up, every link takes us one step closer to what will be for Obama and Danny a precious special kind of humiliation.....
Santorum isn't going to win the nomination but the longer he hangs in there the longer the fundy vote is splintered.
And Santorum has been smart enough not to bad mouth Mitt.
Had the Texas gathering gotten behind Newt it would have been more problematic for Romney.
As it is, Mitt gets the nomination and Santorum and all his fundy support fill out the ticket.
A Romney/Santorum ticket actually has pretty broad Center-Right appeal.
The the 'google' problem is no problem at all.
Anyone who will be voting for Romney/Santorum will see it as a total disgusting dick move.
In fact, if anyone in that demographic has ever heard of Danny (not many....) the fact that Danny hates Santorum will be all the reason they need to support him.
You girls misjudge how the google "problem" will play if it ever reaches the light of day:
associating someone's name with poop is a third grade stunt. literally. sure you apes don't get that, and see it as really witty and cool, but- no.
the two facts anyone/everyone in Real America will carry away from the 'google' cleverness are:
1- Feces? Damn that's disgusting. What filthy perverts....
and
2- Wow that Danny is a malicious retarded little Prick- his mother must've snorted a buttload of crack when she was pregnant.
and if the 'google' thing actually seeds the light of day conservatives will force Obama to repudiate it as an inappropriate dick head stunt and there you will be with the Chosen One forced to confess that Danny is an immature Prick.
so, keep it up, every link takes us one step closer to what will be for Obama and Danny a precious special kind of humiliation.....
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