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News & ArtsFriday, April 6, 2012
City We're Number One!
Posted by Bethany Jean Clement on Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Sigh. (Yes, that's Cafe Presse in the photo.)
Can we please put an end to the term "hipsters"? Its definition is so broad and nebulous—"They sport vintage bowling shoes and the latest tech gear—but they also know all the best places to eat and drink"—as to be useless. (Also deployed here: the specious old "you know them when you see them" thing. Just like porn!)
Via Eater.
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You sound upset, hipster. Better remove your chunky black rimmed glasses before your tears steam them up
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As long as we kill off the idea of the "cool nerd". I was a nerd when it wasn't cool and got the shit beat out of me in middle school and high school because of it.
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why did the hipster burn the roof of his mouth? Becuase he wanted to eat the pizza before it was cool.
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We'll retire "hipster" when you retire "hippie". Most especially "fucking hippie" ala Goldy...
Hippies are awesome, stop the hate.
Hippies are awesome, stop the hate.
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Bowling shoes? No.
Yeah, the term is so broad so as to encompass all adults who don't dress like children.
Yeah, the term is so broad so as to encompass all adults who don't dress like children.
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Wait, it's a flat can beer that you can't even buy yet? The irony of loving a beer that you haven't tasted and can't even buy yet. You don't to call it hipster, it total poser Seattle shit. And if you can't even get it for free as a thank-you for posting about it, it's free lunch at Cafe Presse time.
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"But," implying vintage bowling shoes and tech gear are somehow incompatible with local dining knowledge.
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I think the precise definition of hipster is "anyone younger than 30 who does something I don't like."
And like Cato said, nerds are not, have never been, and never will be cool. No one would consider me a cool hipster if I started talking about my non-ironic love and knowledge of Washington State Ferries or maps of all types. Those things are actually nerdy, not hip pretend nerdy. Most find my ability to talk about bicycles for hours without pause repulsive rather than interesting or cool.
And like Cato said, nerds are not, have never been, and never will be cool. No one would consider me a cool hipster if I started talking about my non-ironic love and knowledge of Washington State Ferries or maps of all types. Those things are actually nerdy, not hip pretend nerdy. Most find my ability to talk about bicycles for hours without pause repulsive rather than interesting or cool.
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At this point the qualities which define a hipster have expanded so much that they include me, for fuck's sake, and I am a giant nerd - and not the "cool" kind who wears video game shirts and interacts with Wil Wheaton on Twitter on a daily basis.
Like, at some point the beers hipsters apparently drink went from "PBR" to "PBR or whatever's cheap, or snobby local microbrews, or fancy imports," so I guess now you're either a hipster or a redneck, period?
Also: that list is face-palmingly stupid because it includes most of the good cities in the country. It isn't a "top" list if it has all the things!
Like, at some point the beers hipsters apparently drink went from "PBR" to "PBR or whatever's cheap, or snobby local microbrews, or fancy imports," so I guess now you're either a hipster or a redneck, period?
Also: that list is face-palmingly stupid because it includes most of the good cities in the country. It isn't a "top" list if it has all the things!
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@ 5 and 11
Nerd just means having a academic interest in something so you can have a star football player being a nerd. So yes there are cool nerds.
What 11 seems to be describing is a geek.
Also I can't define what a hipster is but I know one when i see one, and yes they deserve our scorn, them and hippies.
Nerd just means having a academic interest in something so you can have a star football player being a nerd. So yes there are cool nerds.
What 11 seems to be describing is a geek.
Also I can't define what a hipster is but I know one when i see one, and yes they deserve our scorn, them and hippies.
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Sorry that should be a response to 5 and 14 not 5 and 11.
Also i would say people who" who wears video game shirts and interacts with Wil Wheaton on Twitter on a daily basis" are not cool nerds but geeks.
Also i would say people who" who wears video game shirts and interacts with Wil Wheaton on Twitter on a daily basis" are not cool nerds but geeks.
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Bowling shoes were ironically hip for like 20 minutes in the 90s, back when hipsters were called slackers and Seattle was the coolest place on earth. Either we're in the midst of a full-on 90s revival or the person who wrote this article is fucking ancient.
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Hipster can be retired once people stop being cooler than thou. Until then, there are always people to whom the word applies.
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"It’s no wonder that pilsner originated in Seattle..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilsner
"Pilsner is a type of pale lager. It takes its name from the city of Pilsen (Plzeň), Bohemia, in today's Czech Republic, where a bottom-fermented beer was first produced in 1842.[1] The original Pilsner Urquell beer is produced there today."
A+ reporting guys!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilsner
"Pilsner is a type of pale lager. It takes its name from the city of Pilsen (Plzeň), Bohemia, in today's Czech Republic, where a bottom-fermented beer was first produced in 1842.[1] The original Pilsner Urquell beer is produced there today."
A+ reporting guys!
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I think of a hipster as someone whose main criterion for liking something is how ironic it is. People who think sincerity is uncool (otherwise known as "assholes").
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It is not that hard to define or characterize "hipster", and I definitely wouldn't say that I know one when I see one. I know one when one displays a simultaneous tendency towards irony and cutesyness, and even more easily know one when one complains defensively that "hipster" doesn't mean anything and we should stop saying it.
You go ahead. Stop saying hipster, or don't. Ima keep giggling at hipsters either way.
You go ahead. Stop saying hipster, or don't. Ima keep giggling at hipsters either way.
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Bethany, I am so with you. It's a meaningless term used by people who are unable to adequately articulate themselves.
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Anyone making over $90K a year can never be considered a "hipster". But they do make enough to live on Capitol Hill now days.
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The Stranger staff finds being accurately labeled tiresome because the truth hurts? And think that the people who accurately label them are big dumb poopyheads who aren't as bright and cool as them? GWUUUUHHHHH????
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The word may not be accurate, but it's accurate enough. You want people to latch on to a better word? Give them one.
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The "hipster" movement actually isn't that difficult to define. NPR did it, and Beau Lewis (a native Seattleite) put on an excellent TEDx Talk about hipster identity.
Both note that hipsters hate being called hipsters. And who can blame them? Common things associated with hipsters- nostalgic and ironic rather than innovative takes on fashion, bourgeois bohemianism, snotty attitudes- are all negative.
It's not a real political movement like the hippies or punks, and not a real cultural movement like hiphop or the beat generation. It's just a bunch of pretentious kids making fun of other cultures while they simultaneously copy them.
Authenticity will always be cool, kids.
Both note that hipsters hate being called hipsters. And who can blame them? Common things associated with hipsters- nostalgic and ironic rather than innovative takes on fashion, bourgeois bohemianism, snotty attitudes- are all negative.
It's not a real political movement like the hippies or punks, and not a real cultural movement like hiphop or the beat generation. It's just a bunch of pretentious kids making fun of other cultures while they simultaneously copy them.
Authenticity will always be cool, kids.
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The weird thing about the word is that people most often use it in a pejorative / judgmental manner, while the common understanding of hipsterism is that hipsters are the ones who are doing the judging. What do you call someone who thinks they’re better than hipsters? Meta-hipsters?
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Guys who post pictures of Green Lake shopping carts don't get a vote on retiring the term, "hipster."
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Does T&L only put out lists now?
Anything listing the top places for hipsters that doesn't include Austin in the top five fails at list making.
Anything listing the top places for hipsters that doesn't include Austin in the top five fails at list making.
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blip @32: What do you call someone who thinks they’re better than hipsters?
Everybody thinks they are better than hipsters, but most especially hipsters. Like it says in the NPR story I linked upthread, "the ironic part is that hipsters' opposition to pop culture has become pop culture."
Everybody thinks they are better than hipsters, but most especially hipsters. Like it says in the NPR story I linked upthread, "the ironic part is that hipsters' opposition to pop culture has become pop culture."
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@31, when was the last time you actually heard someone say that they were into something "ironically"? Because as far as I can tell that shit basically died off in 2009 and has since only existed as a tired punchline. I feel like you're sort of begging the question by conflating "hipster" with "insincere and aloof."
Or, put another way: why do you - or one NPR story - get to determine who is or isn't "authentic" about what they like? Who appoints the Mustache Sincerity Regulatory Committee Chair? And where does that leave things like "Look At This Fucking Hipster," which is based entirely on appearance?
Or, put another way: why do you - or one NPR story - get to determine who is or isn't "authentic" about what they like? Who appoints the Mustache Sincerity Regulatory Committee Chair? And where does that leave things like "Look At This Fucking Hipster," which is based entirely on appearance?
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@35, While I was in Austin for SXSW this year, it occurred to me that ATX must be the hipster capital of the USA now. It is more full of hipsters than Portland, San Francisco, or Seattle. Brooklyn transplants abound.
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@32 Zing! I, too, wonder at this. Like hipster is such a dirty word.
The surest sign that you are a hipster is denying that you are a hipster. However, once you admit to being a hipster, you are no longer a hipster.
The surest sign that you are a hipster is denying that you are a hipster. However, once you admit to being a hipster, you are no longer a hipster.
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@37, People don't come out and say that they are wearing something ironically. It would be like explaining a joke before you deliver the punchline.
Maybe you're right, and I'm too quick to judge. I was listening to 80's hair bands piped over the speakers in Lil' Woody's the other night. Perhaps the hipster-looking kid behind the counter was just really into Poison and Twisted Sister.
Maybe you're right, and I'm too quick to judge. I was listening to 80's hair bands piped over the speakers in Lil' Woody's the other night. Perhaps the hipster-looking kid behind the counter was just really into Poison and Twisted Sister.
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OF COURSE there is such a thing as a "hipster". Maybe you can't see it because you are immersed in it, but it is completely real and completely obvious. I can absolutely guarantee that even if you don't know what they are everyone in The Stranger's advertising department does.
Trayvon Martin was not and could not ever have been a hipster. The readership of Travel and Leisure is not composed of hipsters. The people who get off the cruise ships here are not hipsters; the people who repair your automobile or your shower drain, or drive your bus, are not hipsters. Hipsters do not work in factories or construction crews.
If you have have seen a band play in a room that holds fewer than 1000 people in the past year you're probably a hipster. If you live in a gentrified older apartment district in a major city which you did not grow up in, you're probably a hipster. If you regularly read the alternative press, either in print or online, you're probably a hipster. If you have spent more than fifteen minutes in an independent coffeeehouse, you are probably a hipster. And yes, if you can talk about bicycles for more than fifteen seconds you are almost certainly a hipster, unless you are wearing a suit and tie.
"Hipster" is really just a word for young (under 35), childless, college-educated (or in process) white people who either work in media, tech, or marketing, or have temporary jobs in clerking or waiting tables while you wait for a job in one of those fields to open up.
Hipsters, like everyone in America, can also be defined by the type of products and services they consume. But beyond the obvious symbol like "fedoras" or "skinny jeans" or "fixies" or what have you, there's the simple awareness of these things: if you know what a fixie IS, you are a hipster, even if you find them contemptible. If anyone you know has bought a vinyl LP in the past ten years, you are almost certainly a hipster.
Hipsters are unlikely to be non-white; they are unlikely to own a house, though they may well do so in the future; if they own a car it is never ever ever a Buick or a Saturn or a Mercury or an Oldsmobile, unless it is very old. Rich hipsters drive Priuses; poor (-ish) hipsters drive old Toyotas, for now, until they can afford a Mini, by which time they're too old to be hipsters anymore. If their tech job is going well they may sport around in something like a Scion xB, or a more expensive small SUV, as long as it has a big sound system (but not too big; that booming bass is "urban", not "hipster").
Hipsters do not wear "urban" (i.e., young black) fashions like super-oversized jeans or hockey shirts or huge fake lettermen's jackets, or track suits, or other sports attire, though they often wear hoodies and possibly even ballcaps. If they wear glasses they wear very noticeable (and expensive) frames. A hipster would never in a million years wear a Rolex or other expensive watch, or much jewelry of any kind. Cardigans? Sure. Wingtips? Absolutely; they're very on trend. Being "on trend" is a wholly hipsterish activity; the only other fashion streams that have any life in them are the aforementioned "urban" and GQ/Elle-style "rich".
There is some hipster/urban crossover, especially in cities with a lot of black people (i.e., not Seattle). There are pure hipster young black people, even here, but you will notice that they tend to hang out with mostly white hipsters. Hipsters might listen to some hip hop, but not TOO much; and they have a complex opinion worked out in their minds about violence and misogyny, which your non-hipster hip-hop fan won't give a shit about. Of course, the vast majority of people who aren't hipsters are not urban black hip-hop fans but boring old people. Hipsters have almost no contact with any aspect of Latino culture besides taco trucks and (maybe, but not in Seattle) elaborate graffiti/tattoo/mural style. A hipster is astronomically unlikely to have taken a meal inside the family home of a black or Latino person (not your college buddy's apartment, but his parent's house).
Another thing that is almost infallible indicator of hipsterism is taking umbrage at the word "hipster". Me? I'm a former hipster. I aged out; I'm hip enough to know who My Bloody Valentine is -- the hallmark of the former hipster is knowing about the hipster markers of two decades earlier -- and what to expect in an Ethiopian restaurant and where to find a copy of The Stranger in a hurry; but I'm definitely losing touch with that world. It's OK. I'm not ashamed. It was fun; being a hipster is fun. I like seeing you around. You know how to have a good time. I drink at home now, mostly, and sit on my fat ass and watch TV. I'm missing a lot of things, but I'm hip to a lot of things that a hipster will never know as well.
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Trayvon Martin was not and could not ever have been a hipster. The readership of Travel and Leisure is not composed of hipsters. The people who get off the cruise ships here are not hipsters; the people who repair your automobile or your shower drain, or drive your bus, are not hipsters. Hipsters do not work in factories or construction crews.
If you have have seen a band play in a room that holds fewer than 1000 people in the past year you're probably a hipster. If you live in a gentrified older apartment district in a major city which you did not grow up in, you're probably a hipster. If you regularly read the alternative press, either in print or online, you're probably a hipster. If you have spent more than fifteen minutes in an independent coffeeehouse, you are probably a hipster. And yes, if you can talk about bicycles for more than fifteen seconds you are almost certainly a hipster, unless you are wearing a suit and tie.
"Hipster" is really just a word for young (under 35), childless, college-educated (or in process) white people who either work in media, tech, or marketing, or have temporary jobs in clerking or waiting tables while you wait for a job in one of those fields to open up.
Hipsters, like everyone in America, can also be defined by the type of products and services they consume. But beyond the obvious symbol like "fedoras" or "skinny jeans" or "fixies" or what have you, there's the simple awareness of these things: if you know what a fixie IS, you are a hipster, even if you find them contemptible. If anyone you know has bought a vinyl LP in the past ten years, you are almost certainly a hipster.
Hipsters are unlikely to be non-white; they are unlikely to own a house, though they may well do so in the future; if they own a car it is never ever ever a Buick or a Saturn or a Mercury or an Oldsmobile, unless it is very old. Rich hipsters drive Priuses; poor (-ish) hipsters drive old Toyotas, for now, until they can afford a Mini, by which time they're too old to be hipsters anymore. If their tech job is going well they may sport around in something like a Scion xB, or a more expensive small SUV, as long as it has a big sound system (but not too big; that booming bass is "urban", not "hipster").
Hipsters do not wear "urban" (i.e., young black) fashions like super-oversized jeans or hockey shirts or huge fake lettermen's jackets, or track suits, or other sports attire, though they often wear hoodies and possibly even ballcaps. If they wear glasses they wear very noticeable (and expensive) frames. A hipster would never in a million years wear a Rolex or other expensive watch, or much jewelry of any kind. Cardigans? Sure. Wingtips? Absolutely; they're very on trend. Being "on trend" is a wholly hipsterish activity; the only other fashion streams that have any life in them are the aforementioned "urban" and GQ/Elle-style "rich".
There is some hipster/urban crossover, especially in cities with a lot of black people (i.e., not Seattle). There are pure hipster young black people, even here, but you will notice that they tend to hang out with mostly white hipsters. Hipsters might listen to some hip hop, but not TOO much; and they have a complex opinion worked out in their minds about violence and misogyny, which your non-hipster hip-hop fan won't give a shit about. Of course, the vast majority of people who aren't hipsters are not urban black hip-hop fans but boring old people. Hipsters have almost no contact with any aspect of Latino culture besides taco trucks and (maybe, but not in Seattle) elaborate graffiti/tattoo/mural style. A hipster is astronomically unlikely to have taken a meal inside the family home of a black or Latino person (not your college buddy's apartment, but his parent's house).
Another thing that is almost infallible indicator of hipsterism is taking umbrage at the word "hipster". Me? I'm a former hipster. I aged out; I'm hip enough to know who My Bloody Valentine is -- the hallmark of the former hipster is knowing about the hipster markers of two decades earlier -- and what to expect in an Ethiopian restaurant and where to find a copy of The Stranger in a hurry; but I'm definitely losing touch with that world. It's OK. I'm not ashamed. It was fun; being a hipster is fun. I like seeing you around. You know how to have a good time. I drink at home now, mostly, and sit on my fat ass and watch TV. I'm missing a lot of things, but I'm hip to a lot of things that a hipster will never know as well.
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@ 42 - Yup, true dat. I have to laugh at all these hipsters getting all hurt over being called hipsters. Like Fnarf said, you are too immersed in it to realize you ARE WHAT YOU ARE. I am one of you, but left the comfy hipstery confines of Seattle for rural 'merica and I can tell you that hipsters are very identifiable if they aren't every single person you know. Trust me, move to a place where people wear John Deer hats because it came with the TRACTOR THEY BOUGHT FOR THEIR FARM. It isn't kitsch, its real. These are not hipsters. Its ok, there's really nothing wrong with being a hipster, but a little self awareness and sense of humor would go a long way to helping you get over this little case of butt hurt thats raging in the Stranger offices today.
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#42
However, even you Fnarf, have the same myopia of which you speak, because WA has become the great melting pot of social subcultures.
Case in point, for my lunch today I went to Ristrettos Coffee and Wine Bar.
Where you ask? Belltown? 5th Avenue?
No..Maple Valley (http://www.yelp.com/biz/ristrettos-coffe… ) in the same brand new cool strip mall that includes Bike Masters and Boards.
Inside Ristrettos it was super high ceilinged ski lodge style with a center fire place and comfy chairs and tables. Retro? The outside deck has wooden Adirondack chairs!
Now the melting pot. Inside the denizens included a very hipster (and hot) blonde wearing what appears to be the latest trend of skintight leotards and short skirts. But also there was a nice little 2+2 suburban family. Two middle aged ladies sat near me. On the other side of the first place what seemed like middle school girls.
So here you have the classic "hipster" venue -- wine and coffee bar plus bike and board shop -- plopped down in the middle of suburbia serving the hoi polloi and the ex-urban Hipsters!
However, even you Fnarf, have the same myopia of which you speak, because WA has become the great melting pot of social subcultures.
Case in point, for my lunch today I went to Ristrettos Coffee and Wine Bar.
Where you ask? Belltown? 5th Avenue?
No..Maple Valley (http://www.yelp.com/biz/ristrettos-coffe… ) in the same brand new cool strip mall that includes Bike Masters and Boards.
Inside Ristrettos it was super high ceilinged ski lodge style with a center fire place and comfy chairs and tables. Retro? The outside deck has wooden Adirondack chairs!
Now the melting pot. Inside the denizens included a very hipster (and hot) blonde wearing what appears to be the latest trend of skintight leotards and short skirts. But also there was a nice little 2+2 suburban family. Two middle aged ladies sat near me. On the other side of the first place what seemed like middle school girls.
So here you have the classic "hipster" venue -- wine and coffee bar plus bike and board shop -- plopped down in the middle of suburbia serving the hoi polloi and the ex-urban Hipsters!
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@46. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! You think a wine bar is hip. Nobody gives a shit about where you had lunch. Sounds like a good place for you to pick out women to rape though. I bet you skeeved out that blond but good.
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@46, there is a void within hipsterdom with you are in the center of. Wherever you go, whether it's a wine bar, a coffeehouse, a punk rock club, or the locker room at the Washington Athletic Club, that space is for the duration of your visit there completely non-hipster. It might return to hipsterdom when you leave (possibly with a vibing Star Trek door noise), it might not. You can no more be in a hip space than you can be in a pleasant-smelling one. You bring it with you DOOD.
PS -- wine bars are not remotely hipster.
PS -- wine bars are not remotely hipster.
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@19:
Back in the old days we had another word for people like that: "snobs".
@20:
I don't think the author meant Pilsner-style beer was invented in Seattle (although grammatically, I can see how the sentence structure might be read that way), but was simply referring to the particular Pilsner brand cited in the article.
@46:
Is it REALLY a "melting pot of social subcultures", or simply the only fucking place to eat in Maple Valley? Because, there's a BIG difference. Assuming can't be bothered to drive two miles up the road to the 2 Seven 2, that is - which, in a way WOULD be sort of hipsterish behavior...
Back in the old days we had another word for people like that: "snobs".
@20:
I don't think the author meant Pilsner-style beer was invented in Seattle (although grammatically, I can see how the sentence structure might be read that way), but was simply referring to the particular Pilsner brand cited in the article.
@46:
Is it REALLY a "melting pot of social subcultures", or simply the only fucking place to eat in Maple Valley? Because, there's a BIG difference. Assuming can't be bothered to drive two miles up the road to the 2 Seven 2, that is - which, in a way WOULD be sort of hipsterish behavior...
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@ 53, snobbery is the defining component of the hipster. I could have added more details, but it wasn't necessary.
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Just go for a stroll in the Shoreditch section of London (a few minutes' walk N. of Liverpool St. Station). There are so many fucking hipsters there, you could not swing your ironic arm without hitting a few of them.
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@55, which is funny, because not that many years ago the extremely unironic swinging arm would be smashing into your nose.
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@Fnarf 42
Hey! I am a construction worker hipster!
(But I work in Japan so I guess it is hipper construction).
Hey! I am a construction worker hipster!
(But I work in Japan so I guess it is hipper construction).
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Are they still wearing the labeled auto-mechanic shirts and metro bus-driver jackets, despite being neither?
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It occurred to me also that hipsters think the word "hipster" is meaninglessly vague because it applies to 90% (if not more) of the people with whom they come into contact on any given day. And those people are all so different from each other that it seems stupid and offensive to apply the same label to all of them.
Whereas if one is standing a little further away (and regularly comes into contact with, yes, folks wearing John Deere because they think John Deere is awesome - or people who wear cardigans because they've been wearing that for forty years) it is easy to see what unites the hipsters.
Sorry, friends. If you don't want to be called a hipster, don't be one.
Whereas if one is standing a little further away (and regularly comes into contact with, yes, folks wearing John Deere because they think John Deere is awesome - or people who wear cardigans because they've been wearing that for forty years) it is easy to see what unites the hipsters.
Sorry, friends. If you don't want to be called a hipster, don't be one.
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Not surprised to see Seattle & Portland top that list. My first experience at Cafe Presse was fun. After seeing a poster at Le Pichet advertising it, my then-girlfriend & I went there to watch the Sarah Palin/Joe Biden debate.
42/Fnarf: If anyone you know has bought a vinyl LP in the past ten years, you are almost certainly a hipster.
I know someone (me) who hasn't sold any of their vinyl LPs in the past ten years (or, for that matter, the past thirty years.) Don't play them, but can't bear to part with them.
42/Fnarf: If anyone you know has bought a vinyl LP in the past ten years, you are almost certainly a hipster.
I know someone (me) who hasn't sold any of their vinyl LPs in the past ten years (or, for that matter, the past thirty years.) Don't play them, but can't bear to part with them.
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Yes. Hipster. It's broad. But like Fnarf said it is a real thing, It basically means young white urban people having a good time with certain aspects of popular cultural.
I'm not sure why people who are hipsters object to the label. Or why people think it's such an awful thing to be one at all. I suppose it's the culture of irony that people react to. The culture of irony is an annoying apathetic offshoot of hipsterism. But not every young person is like that.
I suppose it's rather sad to cling to the youth culture once one has grown too old to pull it off. Which is probably what has got the goat at the Stranger so much. And why they don't like the term being bandied about anymore. The shelf life as a cultural barometer is short.
The Stranger staff is a little past it's hipster expiration date. I think they see the crystal in their palm blinking red and are worried about renewal in Carousel.
Anyway. I get it. I'd like to be young urban person having a good time again.
RUN RUNNER!
I'm not sure why people who are hipsters object to the label. Or why people think it's such an awful thing to be one at all. I suppose it's the culture of irony that people react to. The culture of irony is an annoying apathetic offshoot of hipsterism. But not every young person is like that.
I suppose it's rather sad to cling to the youth culture once one has grown too old to pull it off. Which is probably what has got the goat at the Stranger so much. And why they don't like the term being bandied about anymore. The shelf life as a cultural barometer is short.
The Stranger staff is a little past it's hipster expiration date. I think they see the crystal in their palm blinking red and are worried about renewal in Carousel.
Anyway. I get it. I'd like to be young urban person having a good time again.
RUN RUNNER!
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The reason people dislike hipsters is for their combination of elitism and non-authenticity. Their entire persona is a carefully constructed facade of not giving a shit intended to mask a hyper-interest in the cool and trendy. They are skinny-jeans wearing hermit crabs.
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@62, its only legit to wear a cardigan if you've been wearing them for 40 years? What if you just don't want to pull your sweater over your head? What am I supposed to wear!?
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