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Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Let's Settle This Milk Thing Once and for All

Posted by on Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:03 AM

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Yesterday, after all that talk about Oreos, The Stranger's offices erupted into a blood feud over the matter of milk. Some Stranger staffers claim that a tall, cool glass of milk is a refreshing treat. Other Stranger staffers say that the texture and consistency of milk becomes disgusting as soon as you turn 13. The pro-milk folks say nothing is better than a cookie dipped in milk. The anti-milk forces claim that a soggy cookie is about as much of a pleasure as a half-chewed cookie you dug out of someone else's mouth. The battle went on for a while. No conclusions were reached. It was decided that a Slog poll was necessary. And here we are:

 

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Cato the Younger Younger 1
I like 1% milk with Nestle chocolate powder mix
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on June 27, 2012 at 8:13 AM · Report this
reverend dr dj riz 2
ever since a vegan friend called it 'cow pus' a few years ago i haven't been able to touch the stuff
Posted by reverend dr dj riz on June 27, 2012 at 8:16 AM · Report this
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How about and option for: Yes! Milk is a delight for all ages! ...but I'm lactose intolerant. :(
Posted by UNPAID COMMENTER on June 27, 2012 at 8:17 AM · Report this
sloegin 4
I chose the fourth option to reward the use of 'mewling' in a sentence.
Posted by sloegin on June 27, 2012 at 8:31 AM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 5

The real difference is between regular average milk and Organic Milk like the kind I buy from QFC, Organic Valley.

Is it more expensive. Yes. Is it worth it? If not getting cramps and gas matters to you and yet enjoying the fresh taste of milk on cereal is...then YES.

http://www.organicvalley.coop
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on June 27, 2012 at 8:44 AM · Report this
6
I will straddle the line in this great debate. Milk is fantastic for drinking. Don't dip your cookies into it, because that's gross.
Posted by jzimbert on June 27, 2012 at 8:45 AM · Report this
7
Once in a very great while, I like a small glass of CHOCOLATE milk—chocolate WHOLE milk, none of this mewling two percent—by itself, without a piece of any kind of cake.
Posted by Bethany Jean Clement on June 27, 2012 at 8:48 AM · Report this
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Whole, fresh, unpasteurized milk from a farm (with the cream on top) is so so so delicious, even if it might kill me. But I only drink milk in my coffee and very occasionally when I have a sour stomach.
Posted by Luckier on June 27, 2012 at 8:53 AM · Report this
Reverse Polarity 9
I like milk on cereal. I like all sorts of cheese and ice cream and other dairy products. But a glass of milk just by itself? No thanks.
Posted by Reverse Polarity on June 27, 2012 at 8:54 AM · Report this
treacle 10
Only cultured milk is edible: cheese, yogurt, kefir, etc. (and ok, ice cream too). Fie on "milk" otherwise! Bleh.
Now rice and almond "milk" is preeetty goood! Soy is terrible, and probably bad for you anyway.
Posted by treacle on June 27, 2012 at 8:54 AM · Report this
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I use milk for cooking and in my coffee (so pretty much as part of other drinks) but dipping cookies into it is just uncivilized.
Posted by suddenlyorcas on June 27, 2012 at 8:56 AM · Report this
12
Twin Brook Creamery produces non-homogenized milk, so the cream rises and sits on the top of the bottle. luscious!
(madison & metropolitan market both sell it).
Posted by slugbiker http://www.seattlescrabble.org on June 27, 2012 at 8:57 AM · Report this
13
Milk is disgusting and taste like Elmer's Glue. Cheese is foul and ruins any food it touches. Butter smells and taste like rancid fat. I'm probably lactose intolerant, but I won't eat the stuff, so I wouldn't know.
Posted by uhh... on June 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM · Report this
Josh Bis 14
Occasionally, in cappuccino format.
Posted by Josh Bis http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Author.html?oid=3815563 on June 27, 2012 at 9:00 AM · Report this
BostonFontSnob 15
None of these choices apply to me. I drink (skim)milk on the reg, but I don't particularly enjoy its taste—I just use it as a means of getting some nutrition into my body first thing in the morning. (I'm not big on breakfast unless there is mimosas involved.)
And I find whole or 2% milk utterly revolting.
Posted by BostonFontSnob on June 27, 2012 at 9:03 AM · Report this
MacCrocodile 16
@2 - That's probably misogyny. Feminist killjoys, can we get your opinion on this?
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on June 27, 2012 at 9:05 AM · Report this
COMTE 17
I still consume roughly a half-gallon of milk a week, along with probably half a pound of cheese. Doesn't bother me a bit and it all tastes delicious.

But then, most of my ancestors are from Europe, so I'm extremely lactose-tolerant...
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on June 27, 2012 at 9:05 AM · Report this
18
Cookie-dipping yes; drinking straight no. And Soy only, please.
Posted by stating the obvious on June 27, 2012 at 9:10 AM · Report this
prompt 19
You're supposed to dunk the cookie in milk just long enough to soften it, not make it soggy. And if it is porous or has ridges like an Oreo, it'll hold some milk when you pull it out and make it that much tastier.
Posted by prompt on June 27, 2012 at 9:10 AM · Report this
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Oh hell yes. Heavy cream in my coffee, homemade buttermilk ranch dressing, on and on, and as for Oreos/shoudabeenHydrox, the game is to dip each cookie in whole milk a different length of time - some just for a sec, to catch a bit of milk in the textured outer surface; others more of a soak to soften those textured surfaces while leaving some crunch below, and most adventurously, long enough to soften the cookie all the way WITHOUT letting bits of cookie plop off into the milk.

It's a thing.
Posted by gloomy gus on June 27, 2012 at 9:16 AM · Report this
Matt from Denver 21

I'm a vegan and [insert 30-minute lecture here].


A + + +

@ 2, you're the reason psychological advertising works.
Posted by Matt from Denver on June 27, 2012 at 9:30 AM · Report this
Zebes 22
Milk is for children. I lubricate my oreos and bran flakes with Wild Turkey.
Posted by Zebes http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.html on June 27, 2012 at 9:42 AM · Report this
23
I'm vegan, but for the first 15 years of my life that I wasn't I still really hated milk. On cereal is fine though.
Posted by Cappelletti on June 27, 2012 at 9:49 AM · Report this
malcolmxy 24
Cheese and ice cream are pretty yummy. That makes me want a cheddar sundae. One sec.
Posted by malcolmxy on June 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM · Report this
Xenos 25
@2 You also fell for that margarine chain email a few years back, didn't you?

@17 Pretty much has it. Between cereal, protein, and yes, a nice tall, perspiring glass when I feel like it, you can't beat milk!

@22 Well played.
Posted by Xenos on June 27, 2012 at 10:05 AM · Report this
biffp 26
No money for education or roads, but tons of money for agriculture subsidies. What a country!
Posted by biffp on June 27, 2012 at 10:08 AM · Report this
Enigma 27
Once I discovered rice milk in college, I've never been able to touch the "real" stuff. It seems to leave this strange film on my tongue and is just too heavy for my tastes.
I will still use it for cooking, mostly when recipes call for heavy cream and the sort. Rice milk doesn't really work for Stroganoff.
Posted by Enigma http://washingtonunitedformarriage.org/ on June 27, 2012 at 10:12 AM · Report this
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I'm a vegan but I forgot to bring my 30-minute lecture, sorry.

There are foods I kinda miss, but cow milk sure isn't one of them. In the seven or so years its been I have not *once* thought "I could really go for some cow juice".
Posted by Actionsquid on June 27, 2012 at 10:23 AM · Report this
Necktieknot 30
I read this while eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich which I was washing down with... a glass of cold milk. Yum!
Posted by Necktieknot on June 27, 2012 at 10:31 AM · Report this
Bubba Kanoosh 31
These longform insightful armchair analysis pieces with an eye for Pulitzer submission are just killing journalism.
Posted by Bubba Kanoosh on June 27, 2012 at 10:37 AM · Report this
Bauhaus I 32
Milk is great with chocolate, but about that dunking thing? Don't like fingers in my milk. I see those ads on TV where everyone is dipping their Oreos in a glass of milk and first thing that pops in my head is, "Where have those fingers been most recently? I know they didn't just scrub like a surgeon." Wouldn't matter if they had. Keep your fingers out of my milk please.
Posted by Bauhaus I on June 27, 2012 at 10:43 AM · Report this
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@32: Who the hell puts their fingers in the milk when dipping a cookie? It's not rocket science. You hold the top part and dunk the bottom part. I can only imagine people who can't get it done properly are so drunk they really shouldn't be adding milk on top of the booze.
Posted by NateMan on June 27, 2012 at 10:47 AM · Report this
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Unpasteurized milk is crazy good and blows any other milk, even whole milk, out of the water. It's amazing and when I drink milk, which I do rarely, it's that stuff. Almond milk is fantastic and when I'm feeling like I need a "sugar cereal " fix I'll put chocolate almond milk on Kix. So good! Soy milk is fucking disgusting.

As for good dipping, I like to dip my chocolate chip cookies in chai tea. A hot dip makes more sense than a cool dip, imo.
Posted by hereiswheremynamegoes on June 27, 2012 at 11:06 AM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 35
@26: While I do not disagree with your basic point, it should be noted that those agriculture subsidies are why we as a country pay less for food than anywhere else in the world...I think it is down to around 5% of our income goes toward feeding ourselves. That is nothing short of a milestone in human history, quite frankly. You benefit greatly from them anytime you buy food, and they basically allow people living in poverty to continue living.

Also, gotta love how even though there was a big vegan dig at the start of the article, all the vegans still made sure to let us know they are vegans! Because hey, why bother if you can't make sure everyone knows about it?
Posted by Theodore Gorath on June 27, 2012 at 11:07 AM · Report this
36
Well, 35, the topic was already broached by the poll options themselves, as a possible reason for not drinking milk. It's kind of silly to bring up the subject of veganism and them chastise people responding for mentioning they're vegans.

*shrug*
Posted by Actionsquid on June 27, 2012 at 11:13 AM · Report this
malcolmxy 37
@35

part of that is because of our income level, and check what it is we're eating. Our lack of diversity in food intake could have consequences that reach well into the future.

Thank you Earl Butz for the modern farm subsidy. You really butz fucked us all.
Posted by malcolmxy on June 27, 2012 at 11:21 AM · Report this
38
I love milk so much I don't even really care whether it's skim, 1%, 2%, whole, raw, pasteurized, homogenized, cream top, cow or goat. It's all different and all good, excepting the occasionally overly grassy-tasting bottle. I even drink warm milk (usually with a splash of bourbon).
I also culture buttermilk at home and make my own chevre and mozzarella. If I could fit a goat or a cow into my pocket-sized yard, I would totally do that.
But dipping cookies in milk is gross. Why wreck a perfectly good cookie?
Posted by alight on June 27, 2012 at 11:22 AM · Report this
Noadi 39
@2 You are gullible and your vegan friend has a poor grasp of biology. Hint: Pus is the result of an immune reaction against an infection not a complex balance of nutrients intended to feed the young and one of the defining points of being a mammal.
Posted by Noadi http://noadi.net on June 27, 2012 at 11:22 AM · Report this
40
@37, I'm pretty sure the brand-new farm bill has ditched the Butzian direct payments. Finally.
Posted by alight on June 27, 2012 at 11:23 AM · Report this
very bad homo 41
I still use it on my cereal, but it has probably been 15-20 years since I actually drank a glass of it. Grosses me out.
Posted by very bad homo on June 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM · Report this
terrence 42
wheres the 7th *Barf* option.

and at #2 im not vegan, but your friend is right. its got blood and pus in it.

http://nutritionfacts.org/blog/2011/09/0…
Posted by terrence on June 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM · Report this
terrence 43
@39 - pus is somatic cells, which are IN american milk due to a number of factors. im not one to say you shouldnt drink and enjoy your pus, but make no mistake its very much there.

do some reading before making statements like that please.
Posted by terrence on June 27, 2012 at 11:40 AM · Report this
keshmeshi 44
@10,

Have you tried hemp milk? It's pretty great.
Posted by keshmeshi on June 27, 2012 at 11:40 AM · Report this
bedipped 45
Processed cows milk kills calves. Got Phlegm?

Posted by bedipped on June 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM · Report this
ScrawnyKayaker 46
A day without cheese is like a day without breathing!

The liquid form: whatever. Mostly appeals to me as a thinning agent for the greek yogurt I smush into my cereal.

Riz @2: What @39 said. That "pus" crap is one of the stupidest things. Would you stop kissing people if a germophobe told you it spreads tooth decay???
Posted by ScrawnyKayaker on June 27, 2012 at 11:45 AM · Report this
tainte 47
milk good, horchata better
Posted by tainte on June 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM · Report this
keshmeshi 48
@16,

It's more hyperbole than misogyny. Milk does contain pus and blood; why wouldn't it considering it came out of a cow's nipple? But it doesn't solely consist of those things.

Since I'm never giving up cheese, yogurt, or ice cream, I personally see no reason to get grossed out about a small amount of contaminants in plain milk. Those same contaminants exist in all dairy products.

I also enjoy a small glass of milk with chocolate cake or fresh-baked cookies, but the hard line stance of many milk haters I know baffles me. So you think it's gross; why should the rest of us care? I think caviar is gross, but you won't see me get bent out of shape if someone else says they like it.
Posted by keshmeshi on June 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM · Report this
Pmasp 49
I dip stuff in coffee, not milk. I like most dairy products, but when I want milk and give it a sniff, it usually smells like cheese and I gag.
Posted by Pmasp on June 27, 2012 at 12:01 PM · Report this
brandon 50
The USDA makes allowances for small amounts of rat feces in peanut butter (even the organic stuff) too, but we all still love our Skippy/Jiff/Adams. Give me a big glass of cold bloody pus any day.

Since when did everyone turn anti-dairy?
Posted by brandon on June 27, 2012 at 12:04 PM · Report this
51
@2: Your vegan friend is sick.
Posted by Weekilter on June 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM · Report this
Zebes 52
@50

One of my favorite phrases is "insect parts per million."
Posted by Zebes http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.html on June 27, 2012 at 1:08 PM · Report this
53
Milk is fantastic. I still drink a couple glasses a day- it's what I have with meals. It's what I always had growing up, and I just never stopped. Also, dipping Oreos in it for 7 seconds is the perfect amount of softness.
Posted by alguna_rubia on June 27, 2012 at 1:23 PM · Report this
Ipso Facto 54
I am a vegan, and here is my 3-minute lecture:

I was an omnivore for two and a half decades. I loved, loved, loooooved me some milk with mah cookehs. Couldn't drink enough of the stuff.

OK, fast forward through my revelation and conversion to a vegan diet...

Now, every once in a while I will inadvertently taste some small amount of dairy (such as when a barista mistakenly makes my soy cappuccino with dairy milk, or when a fleck of grated cheese winds up in my salad). Even mixed with espresso, the taste of dairy is pronounced. And it is revolting. The beverage that I used to love so much now turns my stomach. It has this bizarre, gamey flavor that immediately tastes wrong.

My point is, milk and diary products do not objectively taste good. You enjoy the fat and protein of diary, and because you've grown up eating it, you're tastes are accustomed to the other flavors it contains. When you stop consuming it for a while, your tastes naturally change (perhaps influenced by your digestive system adapting to a new diet) and those other flavors become disgusting.

Now, I love, love, looooove me some half oat milk/ half unsweetened almond milk (both Pacific brand) with mah vegan PCC take-n-bake cookehs.
Posted by Ipso Facto http://therealnews.com on June 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM · Report this
keshmeshi 55
@54,

I've gone vegan before, for several months. Milk never tasted any different to me before or after. Your experience isn't universal.
Posted by keshmeshi on June 27, 2012 at 1:42 PM · Report this
Ipso Facto 56
Also, if you're going to talk about milk, you'd damn well better talk about where it comes from. It is not some magical process whereby you pet an adorable cow and your glass fills up with chilled, frothy milk.

Here is what happens so you can dip your fucking cookie in the milk of a cow:


Cows Used for Their Milk

Cows produce milk for the same reason that humans do: to nourish their young. In order to force the animals to continue giving milk, factory farm operators typically impregnate them using artificial insemination every year. Calves are generally taken from their mothers within a day of being born—males are destined for veal crates or barren lots where they will be fattened for beef, and females are sentenced to the same fate as their mothers.

After their calves are taken away from them, mother cows are hooked up, several times a day, to milking machines. These cows are genetically manipulated, artificially inseminated, and often drugged to force them to produce about four and a half times as much milk as they naturally would to feed their calves.

Animals are often dosed with bovine growth hormone (BGH), which contributes to a painful inflammation of the udder known as "mastitis." (BGH is used widely in the U.S. but has been banned in Europe and Canada because of concerns over human health and animal welfare.) According to the industry's own figures, between 30 and 50 percent of dairy cows suffer from mastitis, an extremely painful condition.

A cow's natural lifespan is about 25 years, but cows used by the dairy industry are killed after only four or five years. An industry study reports that by the time they are killed, nearly 40 percent of dairy cows are lame because of the intensive confinement, the filth, and the strain of being almost constantly pregnant and giving milk. Dairy cows' bodies are turned into soup, companion animal food, or low-grade hamburger meat because their bodies are too "spent" to be used for anything else.

Veal Calves

Male calves—"byproducts" of the dairy industry—are generally taken from their mothers when they are less than 1 day old. Many are shipped off to barren, filthy feedlots to await slaughter. Others are kept in dark, tiny crates where they are kept almost completely immobilized so that their flesh stays tender. In order to make their flesh white, the calves are fed a liquid diet that is low in iron and has little nutritive value. This heinous treatment makes the calves ill, and they frequently suffer from anemia, diarrhea, and pneumonia.

Frightened, sick, and alone, these calves are killed after only a few months of life so that their flesh can be sold as veal. All adult and baby cows, whether raised for their flesh or their milk, are eventually shipped to a slaughterhouse and killed.

The good news is that removing dairy products from your diet is easier than ever. Today there is a multitude of nondairy "dairy" products on the market, such as soy, rice, and almond milk and soy ice cream. Check out a list of our favorite dairy and meat alternatives.
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Posted by Ipso Facto http://therealnews.com on June 27, 2012 at 1:42 PM · Report this
Ipso Facto 57
@35 (Theodore Gorath)

What is this hardon you have for vegans all about, Teddy? You've said something stupid and ill-informed about veganism in every thread I've seen that mentions the subject, and several that don't.

You've declared that corn plants are "conscious", that vegans can't eat yeast (which are in fact unicellular fungi) because they are "living creatures", and that just about all matter in the universe is made out of animals. (BTW, petroleum use has nothing to do with veganism, dipshit. Using eons-old biomass does not (necessarily) involve exploiting sentient beings.)

Your comments exhibit an extreme dearth of scientific comprehension and are utterly bereft of intellectual integrity.

You, sir, are plainly an idiot and your opinion is worthless. Your desperation to evade the culpability of participating in animal exploitation is pathetic.

Good day to you.
Posted by Ipso Facto http://therealnews.com on June 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM · Report this
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@56
As 3 minutes turn to 30, many eyes begin to roll.

I hate celery, tastes like crap to me. Must be my "digestive system" telling me that it is bad for me. Or perhaps your logic is a bit flawed.
Posted by Senor Guy on June 27, 2012 at 2:05 PM · Report this
Matt from Denver 59
@ 54, statements like this...

...milk and diary products do not objectively taste good.


... are the reason vegans are now almost universally reviled by everyone else.

TASTE IS SUBJECTIVE. And if that weren't wholly true, your example of yourself is the most specious one you could have selected.

I can think of a reason why milk no longer tastes good to you. Your psychological revulsion of all animal products is making you think it tastes bad. That's your brain at work, not your taste buds.
Posted by Matt from Denver on June 27, 2012 at 2:23 PM · Report this
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I probably would have answered "haven't had it in years" before I had a kid, but now I drink it regularly. I started just to set an example for the kid, but soon realized that I actually like it, so now I drink that with dinner instead of soda because I want to. And I get to be a healthy smug bastard while I do it.

Posted by beef rallard on June 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM · Report this
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PS. Soggy cookies are fucking gross.
Posted by beef rallard on June 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM · Report this
62
I wanna know if Superman's bulge was airbrushed out, or just uncomfortably restrained. No man's groin looks like that.
Posted by spiderplanet on June 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM · Report this
merry 63
One-percent milk is pretty much a staple in my house, primarily for cereal but also for the occasional small glass w/cake or what-have-you... I cannot do whole milk (to me it's like drinking butter) and 2% is still pretty rich.. The 1% or, better yet, the extra-pasteurized nonfat milk is the stuff.

For coffee and other hot drinks, I greatly prefer soy or almond milk. I always try to keep in mind the actual purpose of cow milk: to grow BIG FAT COWS REAL FAST!
Posted by merry on June 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM · Report this
64
I don't know why this is never an option on these polls: "Do what you want; we don't all have to like the same stuff."
Posted by pox on June 27, 2012 at 3:32 PM · Report this
Zebes 65
@64

That's the "abstain from voting and don't worry about the results" option. It's the one option they must include on every poll.
Posted by Zebes http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.html on June 27, 2012 at 3:38 PM · Report this
Zebes 66
As for the contentious issue of ideal cookie saturation: I like my dunked oreos as soggy as they can get without falling apart. The ideal dunked oreo is mushier than its own icing and melts on the tongue. Mmmmmm.
Posted by Zebes http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.html on June 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM · Report this
67
@66, I admire how precisely you measure that perfect cookie dunk. Well done.
Posted by gloomy gus on June 27, 2012 at 4:02 PM · Report this
Soupytwist 68
@62 - Airbrushed. There was talk of it at the time. Big Milk doesn't want to be associated with a healthy-sized package, apparently.
Posted by Soupytwist http://twitter.com/katherinesmith on June 27, 2012 at 4:32 PM · Report this
Geni 69
I'm gonna quote Governor Gropinator here, when asked if milk was part of his bodybuilding regimen: "Milk is for babies. I drink BEER." (Well, actually, I mostly drink gin, but the point remains the same.)

I quite lost my taste for milk years ago. If I need to quench a sriracha fire or some such, I use a bit of yogurt or sour cream. I do love my dairy, I just lost all taste for drinking milk awhile back, for no discernible reason. I never could stand dunking anything in anything, though. Gross slimy bits in my beverage? Um, no thank you. That's like having a toddler hand you half a Graham cracker after they've gummed it. *shudder*
Posted by Geni on June 27, 2012 at 5:10 PM · Report this
70
The key to good milk is FRESHNESS. Milk is the most perishable foodstuff known to man and must be kept at all times in the cold fridge. Take it out just long enough to pour it and then put it straight back in! NEVER leave it sitting out, not even for a few minutes. All those minutes you leave it out add up and turn it gross-tasting long before it turns spoiled. And don't store it in the door either. Follow this rule and your milk will be mild and sweet as milk was meant to be, not that slightly sour, slightly slimy stuff that makes you go "bleh".
Posted by I have always been... east coaster on June 27, 2012 at 5:49 PM · Report this
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 71
Milk is fantastic. I drink a couple gallons of the cheap stuff every week. I leave it out on the counter for hours at a time. All you fancy milk drinkers are dumbass snobs. I bet you think your $50 dollar wine tastes better than $10 wine too.

And all you lactose intolerants? Genetically flawed. It's OK, I'm sure you make up for it in other ways.
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceclop on June 27, 2012 at 6:16 PM · Report this
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Here's a thought: some people like milk, and some people don't (and some people have the genes to produce lactase past puberty- mostly those of Northern Europen, Mongolian, or certain African tribal descent, and most others don't).

So don't dip other peoples' Oreos in milk, and let everyone enjoy consuming whatever the fuck they want.
Posted by madcap on June 27, 2012 at 9:34 PM · Report this
julie russell 73
If it's in something (Soup/ Ice Cream) fine...but straight up drink it? Nope
Posted by julie russell http:// on June 28, 2012 at 7:50 AM · Report this
sissoucat 74
I'd like to know if what I've been told in Austin in 1990 is true : that, to an American, the idea of drinking one's milk hot is revolting, and only provokes thoughts of people being sick. I was told then that Americans drink their milk cold, or don't drink milk. Is it true ?
Posted by sissoucat on June 28, 2012 at 11:16 AM · Report this
sissoucat 75
@70 Really ? I drink only UHT whole milk, and I think nothing of letting it accidentally on the table for a day (sometimes breakfast has to be rushed and I forget to put all back in the fridge). The taste doesn't change to me.

In my experience, turned milk has a very significant, bitter taste ; very distinctive from non-turned milk. There is no continuum of taste from one to the other. But maybe you're not drinking sterilized milk ? Then you should maybe boil it as soon as you've bought it - after boiling it should keep.
Posted by sissoucat on June 28, 2012 at 11:23 AM · Report this
Allyn 76
This far in to a milk discussion and no one has mentioned Tres Leches Cake?
It may not be the original reason we consume milk, but it is the best reason to continue to consume milk.
Posted by Allyn on June 28, 2012 at 3:51 PM · Report this
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@74, It's pretty uncommon to drink warm or hot milk by itself in the U.S., but hot milk (steamed is preferable) is a fairly common platform for beverages such as hot cocoa or a caffe latte. A plain cup of steamed milk wouldn't gross me out, but wouldn't appeal to me, either.

I would never drink a glass of milk all by itself, but a few sips of cold, organic milk are *perfect* after something sweet and acidic (e.g. yoghurt, fruit pie) or something spicy (e.g. curry). Ever take a swig of still water right after eating a cup of yoghurt? Blech. Soymilk is also good, except for that super-sweet vanilla crap. Double blech.
Posted by brendan on June 28, 2012 at 8:44 PM · Report this
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@75 - my milk is pasteurized, so that can't be it. I can definitely taste a change from fresh to unfresh-but-not-turned. It's subtle, but it still makes the milk unpleasant to drink. Nevertheless I suppose it shouldn't surprise me if it's too subtle for some people to detect, since I've always been more taste-sensitive than most people.
Posted by I have always been... east coaster on June 28, 2012 at 9:22 PM · Report this
79
goat milk
Posted by Doot http://serbia-sucks.blogspot.com on June 29, 2012 at 6:38 AM · Report this
McGee 80
Good to know that Seattle is full of rickety bleeders.
Posted by McGee on June 29, 2012 at 11:56 AM · Report this
81
Replace "small glass" in option 2 with "surreptitious swig from the bottle" and that's me.
Posted by Kristen on June 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM · Report this
82
I agree with @54. I switched to almond milk in my early 20s out of curiousity and now dairy milk tastes like poison to me. Almond milk is way tastier and way healthier.

And I dunked my cookies as a kid, but as an adult, I don't keep cookies in the house, so my dunking days are over.
Posted by Amanda on June 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM · Report this

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