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Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Romney, Losing Independents, Listlessly Picks at His Food

Posted by on Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Romney's 47% comments, which were about how he was trying to attract independents, are now pushing independents away:

The survey, taken Tuesday, finds just over half of independents say the video won't make a difference in their vote. Those who say it will have an effect by 2-1, 29%-15%, say it makes them less likely rather than more likely to support the GOP presidential nominee.

And Mitt Romney is very sad about this:

Mr. Romney himself seemed pensive on the early-morning flight Tuesday from California to Utah, sitting alone with a white legal pad and a pen as he picked at a vegetarian breakfast burrito. An aide said that he had eaten dinner alone in his hotel room the night before as the video controversy began to unfold.

That is such a sad, lonely image. You could write a whole book, or write and record a whole album, about the idea of Romney being depressed and picking apart a vegetarian breakfast burrito. I've felt more emotion for him as a human being thanks to this one paragraph from the New York Times than I did in the entire Republican National Convention.


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Yeah, I'm really sad for him and his quarter billion dollars that he'll cry himself to sleep with.
Posted by SPG on September 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM · Report this
Daddy Love 2
He's sad that the Board of Directors did not select him to be President of the United States.
Posted by Daddy Love on September 19, 2012 at 12:06 PM · Report this
TVDinner 3
I thought only Democrats ate vegetarian. Republicans are supposed to eat vegetarians for breakfast.
Posted by TVDinner http:// on September 19, 2012 at 12:06 PM · Report this
Whatever, I feel nothing but contempt for him. He is so far up his own ass he has no idea about the reality in which the rest of us live. Romney has a sad? WHO FUCKING CARES! ??? His entire ideology and campaign is one fueled by hatred and disdain of most of the American people. He thinks just because he wants to be President he will be, because he is that privileged and that delusional. I doubt this is even a reality check for him. I doubt he will ever experience empathy or understanding in his lifetime and he will die completely bewildered as to why he didn't get his way just because he thought he should.
Posted by xina on September 19, 2012 at 12:07 PM · Report this
Wait, he's a vegetarian? WHY DOES HE HATE AMERICA?
Posted by jen on September 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM · Report this
The Max 6
I want to see lyin Ryan throw him under the bus. Preferably right after he shits himself in the one and only of the three scheduled debates.
Posted by The Max on September 19, 2012 at 12:12 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 7
No, you guys, it's a burrito made with vegetarians. Pure, American, USDA grade-A corn-fed hippies.
Posted by MacCrocodile on September 19, 2012 at 12:13 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 8
I feel a lot more empathy for people who have nothing to eat and nowhere to live because rich, elitist fucks like Romney don't believe our country's citizens should be entitled to food and shelter.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on September 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM · Report this
Hey, if I and 146,448,201 people can’t manage to care about or take any responsibility for our own lives, how the heck are we supposed to care when Romney has a sad?
For Pete Sake!
Posted by Jonathank5 on September 19, 2012 at 12:19 PM · Report this
Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In 10
Romney has either borderline or full-blown antisocial personality disorder. He is incapable of feeling lonely, and the only sadness he experiences is when people refuse to cater to his every whim.

He belongs in a mental hospital.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In on September 19, 2012 at 12:21 PM · Report this
Gay Dude for Romney 11
All this is thin-skinned pontificating over inarticulate rhetoric, over an unfortunate moment when the candidate is strategizing without regard to careful word choice at a private fundraiser.
Meanwhile the issues of the day remain. High unemployment, the Mideast in flames, an out-of-control Federal Reserve, and dept to GDP ratio way too high.
If Americans sensibilities are so shaken by this that they elect Obama again, that's what will be sad.
Posted by Gay Dude for Romney on September 19, 2012 at 12:24 PM · Report this
Gay Dude for Romney 12
Make that "debt" to GDP....
Posted by Gay Dude for Romney on September 19, 2012 at 12:26 PM · Report this
pfffter 13
Posted by pfffter on September 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM · Report this
He's sad because he got caught. He's sad because he is not used to failure. He's sad because he knows he is a let-down to a lot of important-to-him people. He's not sad because his words hurt the 47%.
Posted by mitten on September 19, 2012 at 12:30 PM · Report this
Gurldoggie 15
I'm cryin' all the way to my federally guaranteed doctor's appointment.
Posted by Gurldoggie on September 19, 2012 at 12:30 PM · Report this
"Still, a flustered adviser, describing the mood, said that the campaign was turning into a vulgar, unprintable phrase."

Shitshow? Clusterfuck? Shitstained cumrag? Santorum explosion? Come on, NYT, don't be such a damn prude and tell us what the campaign is turning into!
Posted by Levislade on September 19, 2012 at 12:35 PM · Report this
mrbarky 17
"Ironic, isn't it Smithers? This anonymous clan of slack-jawed troglodytes has cost me the election, and yet if I were to have them killed, I would be the one to go to jail. That's democracy for you."
Posted by mrbarky on September 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM · Report this
Sachi 18
I'd be sad and pick at my food too, if I were faced with a vegetarian "breakfast burrito."
Posted by Sachi on September 19, 2012 at 12:38 PM · Report this
Picking at his food, wondering, "Where's the beef?"
Posted by BiCycleRider on September 19, 2012 at 12:44 PM · Report this
Original Andrew 20
@ 16,

Those would be the technical terms.
Posted by Original Andrew on September 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 21
When Hilary Rosen made the comment about Ann Romney never working a day in her life, you had no problem with all the "thin skinned pontificating" about it... you did some pontificating of your own, in fact:…

Don't be a hypocrite.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on September 19, 2012 at 12:47 PM · Report this
GaryDudeforRomney@11 - Really? Let's go down your list here, the "issues of the day":

High unemployment - Romney? Tax cuts and deregulation. Life will be so much better when we stop hassling the Chinese over the toxins they put in their exports. And giving the rich more money will create jobs because all the poor people will start buying things again. With all the money the poor don't have.

The Mideast - Romney? GDfR you are usually more careful in your trolling. Romney wants to "kick the can down the road." And you referenced that quote yesterday, so I know that you are familiar with it. Strike two.

Out-of-control Federal Reserve - Romney? Has he even spoken about that? Is he for audits? Or are you just hoping he will hand that off to back-to-the-gold-standard Ryan?

Debt-to-GDP - This is just a red herring you are throwing out. You are willfully ignoring the damage that Republican policies have done to this country. Charts like this one from Wikipedia:… clearly show that no only is the debt vs. GDP ration nowhere near peak levels, it shows that the debt has trended down during Democratic presidencies and up during Republican ones.

I wish that there were more distinctions between the parties on civil rights, civil liberties, and financial regulation. But I don't get that. What I -do- know is that on none of the points you cite does Romney have anything to run on.
Posted by John Galt on September 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM · Report this
I liked #romneyshambles, but #moneybooboo is good too.
Posted by originalcinner on September 19, 2012 at 12:51 PM · Report this
Cracker Jack 24
He "picked at" his breakfast burrito? I'm sorry, real Americans eat them one handed like a candy bar! @5 you're right, he DOES HATE AMERICA!!!
Posted by Cracker Jack on September 19, 2012 at 12:57 PM · Report this
@ 11. Strategy sessions don’t cost 50K a plate.
Posted by Jonathank5 on September 19, 2012 at 12:58 PM · Report this
@18 That goes double for me if it was airline food. OTOH, if it came from the nice Mexican joint around the corner, wasn't cheap on the tasty cheese, and was served with some decent hot sauce, I think I'd manage just fine. As an omnivore, I can testify that there's nothing necessarily unappetizing about a meatless breakfast.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on September 19, 2012 at 12:59 PM · Report this
The Max 27
I must admit to being at least a little sad for anybody who has a buck for every poor person in America and doesn't wake up every morning really excited about all the good he can do in the course of the day.

But when he's sad because he's campaigning so hard and so badly to fuck the country so unrighteously, my sad gets tempered into sarcasm.

Poor baby. It'll all be better soon. It'll get worse before it gets better, but we're down to the last six weeks. Then we'll get you some of that caffeine free Dr. Pepper that you love so well.
Posted by The Max on September 19, 2012 at 1:05 PM · Report this
Oh, poor @11 - do we need to make a vegetarian breakfast burrito for you too? Will that fix teh sad?

But seriously, this moment sounds like something right out of "Citizen Kane": Romney as Orson Welles as Charles Foster Kane staring glumly into the abyss, his furrowed brow expressing confusion and disillusionment over the fact that a few negative stories in the press have thwarted his ascent to the heights to which he believes his wealth and ambition entitle him.

I don't feel sad for Romney, so much as I pity him. Despite his wealth and privilege, he's just another in a long line of little men with big dreams that he doesn't have either the intellect, drive or character to achieve.
Posted by COMTE on September 19, 2012 at 1:06 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 29
@16 - They are unprintable because it requires the use of phonemes that no human language is equipped to convey. In describing the doomed state of the campaign, that adviser inadvertently summoned several elder gods.
Posted by MacCrocodile on September 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM · Report this
pfffter 30
@11 Hey Dude Gay For Romney, how many days until the election again? Here's a clue: NOT ENOUGH FOR YOUR GUY TO PULL IT OUT.
Posted by pfffter on September 19, 2012 at 1:11 PM · Report this
Matt from Denver 31
@ 21, when your candidate is an angel sent by the heavens (as a paid shill must treat his employer), then the only rules are, If it's good for my guy then it's right; if it's bad for the other guy then it's right; if it's good for the other guy then it's wrong; and if it's bad for my guy then it's wrong.
Posted by Matt from Denver on September 19, 2012 at 1:11 PM · Report this
Way to cherry pick the Gallup analysis for the Kool-Aid drinkers here.

According to Gallup:

A substantial majority of Americans have already made up their minds about their vote choice, so it is likely that many of those who claim to be "more likely" or "less likely" to vote for Romney are, in essence, indicating that the comments reinforced their pre-existing vote choice. This may be particularly true of Democrats, who have the strongest immediate reactions, with more than two-thirds saying the comments make them less likely to vote for Romney. Given that Gallup Daily tracking data show that only 5% of Democrats are voting for Romney anyway, it is unlikely that these sentiments from Democrats will significantly change the course of the election.

Similarly, since 92% of Republicans are voting for Romney, it is unlikely that the 44% of Republicans who say the comments make them more likely to vote for Romney will affect the race.

True, the comments didn't play well with independent voters. Those who care about the comments were against them by a 2:1 ratio. But it's also true that independents were the least likely of all voter groups to care about the comments.

The bottom line, according to Gallup:

Any longer-term impact of Romney's comments would eventually show up in Gallup Daily tracking of voter preferences for president, although there has been no evident change to date.

Oh, and I would note that the race is once again the same tie in the Gallup poll that it was before the conventions: Obama up 1 point, with a 3-point margin of error. Also, Obama's 9-point post-convention advantage in his approval rating is gone: up 2 points, with a 3-point margin of error.

Yep, Romney's comments were obnoxious. I think they'll hurt the Republicans down-ticket, and maybe both in the presidential race and in the long run, but only if the Democratic Party and the Obama campaign (especially the latter) can get off their collective asses for once and shove those words down Republican throats now and forever.

It doesn't matter whether The Slog's Kool-Aid drinkers pronounce themselves offended. What really counts is whether the cross between John Kerry and Bill Cosby at the head of the Democratic ticket will send his flying monkeys through the air to rip the stuffing out of the scarecrows.

So far, I have seen no sign of this. It's not enough to have it amplified on Rachel Maddow's show, which is more than cancelled out by Fox News. Where are the Democratic surrogates? Where the fuck is Obama?
Posted by Mister G on September 19, 2012 at 1:13 PM · Report this
#10, the same was true of Bill Clinton, but things worked out pretty well in the 1990s, as I recall.
Posted by Mister G on September 19, 2012 at 1:15 PM · Report this
Oh, and if the Democrats at the national level had any brains (which I often doubt, having observed their loser act for so many elections), they'd have been out there within minutes saying, oh-so-mournfully, "What happened to the Republican Party that Ronald Reagan always talked about? You know, the big tent for everybody? Could it be that the 'big tent' was never anything more than an empty lie?"

Come on, folks. Other than yourselves and the usual suspects on MSNBC, where are the Democratic attack dogs? Isn't someone going to let the surrogate pit bulls out of the kennel?
Posted by Mister G on September 19, 2012 at 1:19 PM · Report this
Maybe he's listlessly wondering whether a rogue server brought him the veggie burrito with the hidden camera in it.
Posted by RonK, Seattle on September 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM · Report this
keshmeshi 36

You're asking a Republican not to be a hypocrite?
Posted by keshmeshi on September 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM · Report this
@36 It must be something to have to go through life wondering every minute if your own hired help hates you so much they would betray you. The sad life of a prick. It's practically Shakespearian.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on September 19, 2012 at 1:34 PM · Report this
@37 Oops, meant for @35
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on September 19, 2012 at 1:35 PM · Report this
Max Solomon 39
@34: when your opponent is busy destroying himself, get out of the way.

i assume the reagan GOP you're suggesting the dems express nostalgia for is the same one that expanded the EITC (leading to the situation that the GOP is trying to hang around obama's neck)? just like the he-who-cannot-be-named administration did.
Posted by Max Solomon on September 19, 2012 at 1:41 PM · Report this
Mister G, bray all you want. Your guy is still in a hole any way you measure it. The question is how big of a hole is it. It might be a big hole. It might be fairly small hole. But he's in it. He can definitely get out of it, but he needs to hurry the hell up, because it's late September and people are starting to make up their minds. Maybe this whole 47% thing won't make a big difference, but it can't help. We won't really know if it had an effect on public opinion for a few days. (It really had no effect on me because my mind is made up.)

But here's a larger point: If you're Romney, you can't have this constant crap dripping onto the news (sorry about the analogy) because, after a while, it starts to define who you are. Look at the significant advertising advantage Romney has. Not only does he have the ads. He also has the conservative punditry and a friendly mainstream media that absolutely refuses to ask any tough questions, in addition to holding Obama to a harsher standard. How has this all helped Romney? Romney's strategy was to make the election a referendum on Obama. However, the seemingly endless bad press is now making it a referendum on him. That is not what Romney wanted.

And as mentioned above, attack dogs are not necessary, or probably even desirable.
Posted by floater on September 19, 2012 at 2:16 PM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 41
I'll feel empathy for him when he gets his ass clobbered in the election. Not before.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on September 19, 2012 at 2:21 PM · Report this
#40, to quote something else from the Gallup survey used as the basis of the story that you and I are commenting on:

Still, the long-term impact of any news event that flares up in the heat of a presidential campaign is difficult to determine. This is particularly true in today's more polarized news environment in which audiences of conservative-oriented vs. liberal-oriented media outlets are likely to hear quite different interpretations of the flap, and from different commentators.

You seem to think that Obama can just sit back and wait for the news media to deliver him the votes. That's a hopelessly outdated view. We don't live in a world of three homogenous networks, all of them trying to be The New York Times on screen.

We live in a highly fragmented media landscape, where the Kool-Aid drinkers of both tribes increasingly listen to only their their own chieftains. What's left of the networks and newspapers does cover these things, but they are relentlessly "objective" about it, and many people tune it out anyhow.

Democrats have this extremely frustrating habit of simply assuming that people will figure it out on their own, and act accordingly. They cling to it in the face of a mountain of contrary evidence.

Meanwhile, Obama's electoral and favorability advantages gained from the convention have vanished, yet for some reason the Kool-Aid drinkers here think things are in the bag because Romney made a gaffe.
Posted by Mister G on September 19, 2012 at 2:37 PM · Report this
blip 43
@42, When the polling data is aggregated, there is not a single point in the entire 2012 election cycle where Romney has enjoyed a lead over Obama (see here:…). Your concern for the "Kool-Aid drinkers" (how 2008 of you, btw) has been noted (repeatedly!) but your assumption that you're the only one in the room who has it all figured out is kind of annoying.
Posted by blip on September 19, 2012 at 2:49 PM · Report this
Collin 44
Meat is for winners.
Posted by Collin on September 19, 2012 at 4:16 PM · Report this
#43, come on, look at the list of those polls. Huffington Post is serving themselves and their readers the Kool-Aid they want to drink. They're no more credible on the numbers than Red State is.

The only times the race has been outside the margin of error was when Obama's surrogates went after Romney on his taxes, and then after the Democratic convention, which by any possible measure was head, shoulders, kneecaps, and toenails above the Republican show.

Since then, the race has once again pulled to within the margin of error. As for being "the only one in the room who's figured it out," that depends on which room. Here, yes. Out in the wider world, hardly.
Posted by Mister G on September 19, 2012 at 4:36 PM · Report this
Shouldn't he feel sad that he's wasting all those billionares' money on a campaign that he's not going to win? Yes, very sad indeed.
Posted by Patricia Kayden on September 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM · Report this
I'll grant this much: As soon as they find the authentic video of Mitt Romney with his mouth on a Boy Scout's dick, or vice-versa, I will agree with those here who think that Obama's got it sewn up. Until then, I say it's a tight race, and that the biggest issue is the Democratic Party's decades-old habit of feeling smug about themselves.
Posted by Mister G on September 19, 2012 at 4:44 PM · Report this
blip 48
@45, It includes data from all major polling firms. Rasmussen and Gallup are known to tilt in favor of the GOP and they are not excluded. But we've already established you're the smartest one here so I didn't even need to tell you that.
Posted by blip on September 19, 2012 at 5:02 PM · Report this
Gay Dude for Romney 49
@30: Perhaps 10, or even 5, years ago and I would say that you would be correct. However, because of the more granular and higher frequency of the news cycle, the Internet and Twitter, the next 48 days provide plenty of time for game changers.
Posted by Gay Dude for Romney on September 19, 2012 at 7:16 PM · Report this
#48, it's weighted toward the Kool-Aid crowd. But then, we've already established that you can't handle anyone who isn't a tribal cheerleader.
Posted by Mister G on September 19, 2012 at 7:56 PM · Report this
Free Lunch 51
@49 - Agreed, but it's not such a great position to be in when a game-changer is an absolute requirement. Without one, I think we can all agree that Romney has lost this election.

So he can cross his fingers and hope one happens, or he can act like a leader and do something about it.

Describing how EXACTLY he intends to balance the budget and create jobs, instead of vague platitudes about "role of government" or "job creators" could be a game changer. Clearly, just complaining about Obama while refusing to detail any of his own policies whatsoever isn't working.

It's not working for you, either, Gay Dude Against Obama, but I understand that it's the only ammo they've given you.
Posted by Free Lunch on September 19, 2012 at 8:00 PM · Report this
They're gaffes, and they aren't the "game changers" the Kool-Aid drinkers imagine them to be. Maybe this is simply a matter of perspective. There aren't all that many benefits to getting a lot older, but one of them is that, after 10 presidential elections and countless others for lower offices, you've seen a whole lot of this shit before and don't get as excited about the latest "game changer."

Fact is, Obama's numbers are pretty much the same as they were before the conventions started. Remember 2008, and the Republicans going apeshit about Reverend Wright, and about the tape of Obama's patronizing comments about working-class whites in Pennsylvania? Guess who got elected anyway?

Or how about Reagan, who was famous for saying that trees cause air pollution? Voters hardly ever care about that kind of crap, even when they ought to. As for what Romney said, come on, since when haven't the Republicans been calling Democrats a pack of shiftless welfare rats?
Posted by Mister G on September 20, 2012 at 1:02 AM · Report this
Rob in Baltimore 53
"Gay" Dude for Etch-A-Sketch. Romney said that the entire 47% that won't vote for him are people who don't pay taxes, and are dependent on the government, on welfare, and think they are entitled. I pay income taxe. I'm not on welfare, and I don't feel entitled. I'm part of the 47% that won't vote for Romney. There are plenty of people who dont pay taxes who will vote for him.. Romney didn't misspeak, nor was he being inarticulate in his statement. He said what he believes boldly and clearly. Now that his statements have been exposed Romney is outright lying about what he said.

Again, why do you idolize this man? (Why do you run away when pressed for answers?)
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on September 20, 2012 at 4:06 AM · Report this
blip 54
@50, Real Clear Politics' and Five Thirty Eight's aggregate models show the exact same thing. I know, I know, they're all in the tank, it's a vast left-wing conspiracy, lame stream media, et cetera and so forth. Oh, and Kool-Aid. Lots of Kool-Aid! But. That is what the numbers look like when the polls are aggregated.

Anyway. Your point is valid and completely non-controversial. "We cannot say with certainty today what will happen in two months" is a familiar concept to most people. In fact it is the basis for a common platitude involving chickens and eggs and when is the best time to count them. It's the part where you drop into every thread and smugly wag your finger at everyone else because they're comments fail to address the same caveats and concerns that is so annoying.
Posted by blip on September 20, 2012 at 11:45 AM · Report this
What makes me sad about this whole thread is that nearly all the commenters are one-sided inarticulate slobs. There are very good reasons why most Americans react negatively to the idea of a Liberal and you are certainly revealing why. What a tower of Babel.

Romney should be sad and contemplative. He tried to walk the narrow line of political schizophrenia and fell off over trivial reportage. What he didn't say is that a lot of his 47% comes from areas of high government endowments. Why would these people vote for him? A lot of them can't stand effete smarmy marmy pussies that most of you read like. You need to go get out of doors away from the rest of the inbred lab mice and take a deep whiff of the human race, American style. Just watch out that someone with blood doesn't try to remove that superior grin from your face while you're remarking on the mote in their eye.

What Romney should be ashamed of is worshiping the god of mammon rather than the bearer of love. So should Obamarama when you get right down to it. 'Let's just throw some more tax payers' money at ward 8' to reinforce the notion that we should feel sorry for them and they need help being human beings.' I guarantee you that all those welfare state programs the liberals are so fond of won't slow the constant stream of homeless I see on the public roads every day way out here in the sticks. It will go for bleeding hearts trying to stop the ones that nature left behind from killing each other.

I do not want any one who is perfect, much less a perfectionist as my leader. That's why I celebrated when McCarthy and Hart fell off their pedestals. The same with Romney. The Republican party missed the boat when they put ole preppy cowboy George in there with his criminal cohorts. I doubt if the GOP will sail on an even keel for a long time. And the Democrats won't take over again, either. You think the Tea Party is bad - wait for the next chapter.

What they need to do with Obama is take away his check book and charge card and tell him not to get out of the oval office chair until he has come up with some things that work. And don't send us another 2 mile long sidewalk out here in our rural village. We don't even have a motel to make a profit from the construction workers. Figure it out. It's not about a lot of smart aleck remarks that a 13 year old would make.
Posted by Gonesouth on September 20, 2012 at 2:25 PM · Report this
#54, it's their. I learned that in the fifth grade, but you must have been staring out the window that year.
Posted by Mister G on September 22, 2012 at 10:25 AM · Report this
It might not be a great idea to assume it's in the bag, given that 22% of those polled have said they could still change their vote.
Posted by Mister G on September 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM · Report this
"We don't live in a world of three homogenous networks, all of them trying to be The New York Times on screen."

Oh, for those days again. We had no idea how good it was, and how bad it would get.
Posted by sarah70 on September 22, 2012 at 5:33 PM · Report this
Yeah, well it's been that way for going on 20 years now. The Republicans know it, but the Democrats think everyone still tunes into the Huntley-Brinkley Report and sits down with the evening Seattle Times. Oh, and check this out: Apparently someone's starting to notice that the race is tied at 47-47 in the Gallup tracking poll, but not Obama's campaign manager.

What's next? A week of windsurfing at Hood River?
Posted by Mister G on September 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM · Report this

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