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Thursday, November 8, 2012

Dueling Masterminds

Posted by on Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:59 PM

The Washington Post says:

On a conference call with reporters just now, David Axelrod took a moment to gloat over the disastrous 2012 performance of Karl Rove's attack ad operation, joking that if he were one of the billionaires who had handed big checks to Rove, “I’d be asking for a refund...The heartening news is that you can’t buy the White House; you can’t overwhelm the Congress with these Super PAC dollars,” Axelrod continued. “I would think there will be reluctance in the future, when Mr. Rove and others come knocking on the door, because of what happened on Tuesday.”

In an intriguing coincidence, Axelrod’s comments about Rove came at roughly the same moment as the GOP operative appeared on TV to claim that the Obama campaign won by “suppressing the vote” with negative ads that “turned off” voters. That’s an odd statement coming from the co-founder of the Crossroads operation, which spent an estimated $100 million in this election, much of it on negative ads. That aside, it’s clear Rove needs to be able to tell all those wealthy donors something in order to explain why all those checks produced zero returns.

Fuck Karl Rove. How do you spend nearly four hundred million dollars and get nothing back as a result? If any Republican takes this man seriously ever again, their party deserves to lose every election it runs in.


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I do not think "suppressing the vote" means what they think it means.
Posted by Fr0zt on November 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM · Report this
blip 2
I think money can still sway voters at the policy level (propositions and such) but when actual human candidates are involved it's hard to overcome voters' inclination to choose the person they like better and/or represents their best interests.
Posted by blip on November 8, 2012 at 3:13 PM · Report this
Original Andrew 3
Can’t remember who said it, but the gist of it is that Karl Rove isn’t a political strategist, he’s a snakeoil salesman to misanthropic, hateful, greed-crazed billionaires and just grifting them for every cent.
Posted by Original Andrew on November 8, 2012 at 3:19 PM · Report this
It was up to Rove and Romney to counter Obama's ads during the election not after so they wouldn't "suppress" the Romney vote as he claims. You're running in the election during the election not after.
Posted by rzn2be on November 8, 2012 at 3:21 PM · Report this
Geni 5
How dare the party with which I am not affiliated air negative television ads! Why, that's "suppressing the vote" of the party with which I am affiliated! Dastardly shenanigans!

Idiot. Apparently, he thought all that money meant that anyone who disagreed was supposed to just shut up and go huddle in a corner somewhere. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall...
Posted by Geni on November 8, 2012 at 3:25 PM · Report this
treacle 6
"get nothing back as a result" ??

Hm, this map showing the country's 2012 red shift suggests otherwise.
Posted by treacle on November 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM · Report this
Rove won several elections by a divide-and-conquer strategy: "Let's demonize latinos, non-christians, activist judges, feminists and gays. The more moderate members of our party will realize that we don't *really* mean these things, but that we have to say them to activate the base."

Obama's campaign ran on precisely the opposite premise; rather than turning the various demographic factions against each other, Obama assembled a diverse coalition. When the Republicans lose a majority of Latinos, Blacks, Asians, women, Jews, gays and young people, there simply aren't enough white Christian men left for them to win.

Rove is pissed off because the election paradigm that made him a rich, successful, highly sought politico is now no longer relvant. And neither is he.
Posted by Clayton on November 8, 2012 at 3:42 PM · Report this
ScrawnyKayaker 8
@7 Rove, if not physically then in the form of his many, many millions of Republican dollars skimmed from the money poured into his businesses this year, is now happily vacationing in the Cayman Islands for pretty much as long as he wants. He may no longer care about being relevant.
Posted by ScrawnyKayaker on November 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM · Report this
What comes around goes around. Jesus, turd blossom, even Dick fucking Morris has the integrity to say he was just flat out wrong.
Posted by Westside forever on November 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM · Report this
pfffter 10
Yeah, fuck that guy. What an ass. His little temper tantrum on Fox News was the most enjoyment I'll ever get out of that network.

I know it's illegal to burn people at the stake, but if all the billionaires who gave money to Rove decided to do so, I would definitely look the other way.
Posted by pfffter on November 8, 2012 at 4:04 PM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 11
Rove still thinks right wingers will believe anything he says. You know, I believe he's right.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on November 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM · Report this
"Suppressing the vote." Are there any underhanded strategies left that the Republicans perpetrated that they have not yet accused the Democrats of being the ones who were doing it?

Posted by Brooklyn Reader on November 8, 2012 at 4:15 PM · Report this
Beetlecat 13
@6 even with the apparent "red shift" many those regions were still sufficiently blue to re-elect Obama. It's easy to misinterpret what that means for the billions spent.
Posted by Beetlecat on November 8, 2012 at 4:51 PM · Report this
What are you saying, Paul? Rove is a GENIUS and should run every GOP campaign for the rest of his life.
Posted by Prettybetsy on November 8, 2012 at 4:55 PM · Report this
Free Lunch 15
No amount of advertising could sell New Coke either. It's the product, stupid.

For instance, conservatives can no longer sell the snake oil that says cutting taxes on the wealthy creates revenue. But here comes Boehner, hawking that cure yet again. Sad, really.
Posted by Free Lunch on November 8, 2012 at 6:38 PM · Report this
Knat 16
Can we adopt a similar policy for Karl Rove as we use for Rick Santorum? I think the nickname bestowed on him by W is probably the best thing that came out of that presidency, and we should embrace it, make it his legacy.
Posted by Knat on November 8, 2012 at 7:16 PM · Report this
Evidently Republican Orwellianism knows no bounds. What dastardly thing that they do will they claim to be victim of next?
Posted by K X One on November 8, 2012 at 7:53 PM · Report this
Frontline ran a program tonight about the money out-of-state 501(c)(4)s put into the campaign against Montana's Tester. The bastards picked the wrong state.
Posted by sarah70 on November 8, 2012 at 11:58 PM · Report this
Karl Rove is a very smart man. I'm sure he made a nice commission off that $400 million. I don't blame him one bit. He's just separating rich fools from some of their money. That's capitalism in action.
Posted by Patricia Kayden on November 9, 2012 at 8:12 AM · Report this
i agree wholeheartedly with prettybetsy @14. long live karl rove. may he run every repug campaign till his dying day.
Posted by ellarosa on November 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM · Report this

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