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News & ArtsWednesday, December 5, 2012
Bikes Cyclists are better for the economy
Posted by Chicago Fan on Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM
Or so says a study of Portland. Long post short: cyclists spend less per visit, but visit more often and are more likely to be regular customers of small neighborhood businesses. Another argument for more bike infrastructure, even at the cost of parking spaces for cars.
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When there is nowhere to park, I think traffic is moving to slow, or is too dangerous to drive in, I just drive/park my car on the sidewalk.
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Thanks! I filled in almost all my Cycling Advocacy Bullshit Bingo card! I just need "bamboo" and "recumbent".
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Read another study recently showing that cycling increases penis length and girth. Can't seem to find the link at the moment...
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Results from Portlanders willing to add 5-10 minutes to a shop visit to self-report? Data doesn't get much harder, does it?
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seriously tho this kind of thing is bait for cretins like @2, do better please
@2 if I draw you a picture will you be able to distinguish between bicycles and cars in future
see in this picture there's a machine that is small and maneuverable and doesn't go very fast
in this OTHER picture there's a machine that is large and kills people when it runs into them
can you spot the difference
@2 if I draw you a picture will you be able to distinguish between bicycles and cars in future
see in this picture there's a machine that is small and maneuverable and doesn't go very fast
in this OTHER picture there's a machine that is large and kills people when it runs into them
can you spot the difference
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I think non-drivers are probably great for walkable neighborhood shops, but I don't know how I feel about cyclists (people in general) self reporting of how often they go someplace. Maybe they can expand upon this research jointly w/ shop owners and survey how people showed up to their establishment.
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@6: If I draw you a picture, will you be able to identify a joke or not? Whooooosh!
How about I just draw you a picture of a Shift key, or maybe the keys that create punctuation marks?
How about I just draw you a picture of a Shift key, or maybe the keys that create punctuation marks?
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Christmas shopping on a bike is awesome, especially when the weather outside is delightful (like today).
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Nice selective quoting by the author of the thread.
Here is what the linked article headline ACTUALLY says:
While I didnt read the entire PDF from what I did read this thread and the linked article BOTH are misleading and misquote the original draft PDF study. Oh, yeah, it's a draft study. Wait until the study is actually concluded before drawing conclusions.
In the PDF there was almost no distinction between pedestrians and bikers in terms of numbers of visits to local neighborhood businesses. It is not a blanked endorsement of cycling.
It's saying that spending on car infrastructure in dense urban neighborhoods makes less sense than supporting pedestrian (and bike) infrastructure.
BTW: It's clear the author of this thread never read the Draft study PDF. The Stranger not actually read a study before leaping to conclusions? No! I'm shocked.
Here is what the linked article headline ACTUALLY says:
"Cyclists and Pedestrians Can End Up Spending More Each Month Than Drivers"
While I didnt read the entire PDF from what I did read this thread and the linked article BOTH are misleading and misquote the original draft PDF study. Oh, yeah, it's a draft study. Wait until the study is actually concluded before drawing conclusions.
In the PDF there was almost no distinction between pedestrians and bikers in terms of numbers of visits to local neighborhood businesses. It is not a blanked endorsement of cycling.
It's saying that spending on car infrastructure in dense urban neighborhoods makes less sense than supporting pedestrian (and bike) infrastructure.
BTW: It's clear the author of this thread never read the Draft study PDF. The Stranger not actually read a study before leaping to conclusions? No! I'm shocked.
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I've often wondered about the commercial benefit of cycle touring. This past summer, my little group of three rolled into tiny Port Renfrew on the west coast of Vancouver Island. In the space of maybe an hour, we'd probably spent almost a hundred dollars on expensive (yet delicious) burgers and supplies. If British Columbia were to update the and improve the roads on that section of the island, they could promote it as a premier bike touring route and get way more bike traffic. As it stands, the Sest Coast highway is a bit of a nightmare for cyclists. Though we were riding in the height of touring season, we so no other bike tourists on the island. I gather rural Oregon towns have started to actively promote themselves to the bike touring world.
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I'm pleasantly surprised to see that pedestrians are the biggest spenders at bars. Pub crawling beats drunk driving!
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