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News & ArtsThursday, January 3, 2013
Guns Kind and Thoughtful Cinemark Offers Free Tickets for its Reopening Night to the Families of People Killed by James Holmes
Posted by Charles Mudede on Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:14 AM
This is simply stunning...
Family members of those who were killed in the Aurora movie theater shooting sent an angry letter to Cinemark after being invited to "a special evening of remembrance" and a movie in the theater where their loved ones were massacred.
Obviously, Cinemark was stupid enough to think that no one was smart enough to see the motive behind this offer:
Thank you for reminding us how your quest for profits has blinded your leadership and made you so callous as to be oblivious to our mental anguish.
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Whatever. It's a movie theater not a morgue. Do the families want to raze the theater and replace it with a memorial instead?
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If they hadn't invited them, would there be an outraged?
Will the survivors's families hire a lawyer to sue the theater for a hundred million dollars?
Will the survivors's families hire a lawyer to sue the theater for a hundred million dollars?
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@ 1 and 2, while the families' letter sounds like something that people who are party to a lawsuit might say, you have to admit that inviting the relatives of the murder victims to see a movie in the theater where the murders happened is fucking insensitive and tone-deaf.
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Seriously. What did they want the theater to do? I'll bet that, other than something like close forever, they would have done so.
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Manufactured outrage from the Stranger? From Chuckie "if you look at me cross-eyed you're a racist" Mudede?
NOOOOO!!!!
NOOOOO!!!!
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Yeah, I have to say that a movie theater has only a few things they can offer anybody. Free movies, or popcorn, or milk duds. that's about it. They have to reopen the theater, unless they want that franchisee to go out of business. I actually think it was just fine to make the offer, and just fine for the families to say no and be upset, but the world has to go on.
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"Quest for profits"? What proposed mechanism for profits would this be? It didn't sound like they were going to put ads on them as they walked in. They may thought to get a little good press, but any company that does any gesture expects that and as long as the gesture is desired they get no shit about it. This was tone-deaf mind you, considering that theater is about the last place these families want to ever see, but setting this up as some kind of exploitative plot by the theater is stretching it the way only lawyers seeking lawsuits usually do.
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@10, that seems pretty dismissive. The families got an invite during the holidays from a chain that refused to meet with them after the shootings.
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@12- They most certainly could have just quietly reopened the theater and hoped no one noticed. It was a ham-fisted gesture, and clearly one that didn't pan out for them, but I kinda applaud them for taking the risk, trying to do something (not a very sensitive thing, but still something) for the families. Maybe next time they'll run their big idea past a couple rational human beings next time...but fuck, at least they tried.
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This is the same Cinemark that appears to have offered to pay any funeral expenses incurred by the victims' families not covered by the Crime Victims' Compensation Fund.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora…
Anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora…
Anyway.
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Charles @12...this is a fucking corporate entity we're talking about, not a citizen (and there is a difference no matter what SCOTUS says). Americans (or anyone with common sense) know this was a decision driven by an unwieldy conglomeration of people with a variety of motives both noble and profit-driven, not the least of which was the desire not to be sued. Hence, we are prepared to offer Cinemark a little slack. It's not about a lack of "delicacy," it's about not being naive.
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I mean, their loved ones just got shot down like dogs. I'd like to think I would have a little perspective in such a situation, rather than rage against the movie theater.
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@1 I don't understand their outrage at all. This seemed like a nice offer. Perhaps the families are upset that it was sent via email, rather than a call or letter? I'm sure most (if not all) businesses that saw violent tragedy have had a remembrance memorial day. The report I saw showed the letter and it looked to be from some sort of Victim Association, and made mention of counseling services and other helpful things. Felt like a nice thing to do, and only right to invite these folks. I can understand if they chose not to attend, but I don't think it was wrong to invite them to a memorial event as the business reopens. (Weren't similar things done at the coffee shop in Lakewood, for example? Some type of remembrance event for the fallen).
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I do completely understand that the families wouldn't want to ever go see a movie there. But I don't understand them being upset to be invited to this event. Seems nicer than just reopening the cinema without any type of event.
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It was pretty tone-deaf. If they wanted to actually do something respectful, maybe a nice brass plaque in the lobby, dedicating the theater to their memory or something.
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Looking at the comments on huffpo and on this story in the Seatrle Times, the overwhelming majority of commenters line up behind the theater on this one. The theater didn't contact the family members because they feared a lawsuit, which has of course happened. They wouldn't have sued if they got a condolence call earlier? Yeah right. Cinemark is culpable here for what reason again? Sometimes terrible things happen and there isn't a faceless corporation or government to blame.
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Almost as stunning as promoting Communism despite the fact that it has KILLED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, hundreds of times more than the Americans who have been killed by privatly owned firearms in the last century.
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@23
65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Africa
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam
150,000 in Latin America (mainly Cuba)
10,000 deaths "resulting from actions of the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power."[4]
-The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression Edited by Stéphane Courtois
65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Africa
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam
150,000 in Latin America (mainly Cuba)
10,000 deaths "resulting from actions of the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power."[4]
-The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression Edited by Stéphane Courtois
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@24,
Please. How many millions have Americans killed overseas in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan? How many Native Americans? How many Blacks (slavery and pre-civil rights era)? How many people killed by gun violence per year?
How did communism pop up in this thread? Relevance?
Please. How many millions have Americans killed overseas in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan? How many Native Americans? How many Blacks (slavery and pre-civil rights era)? How many people killed by gun violence per year?
How did communism pop up in this thread? Relevance?
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@ 24, actions taken by the government of the USA have killed 160 million people since its founding, according to an estimate I read back in the 90s. That beats out your list by nearly double.
So, what's your point?
So, what's your point?
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