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Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Poll Results Show Washingtonians Are Split on Proposed Coal Terminals

Posted by on Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Posted by news intern Jocelyn Macdonald

A new poll shows that 50 percent of Washingtonians support the proposed coal export terminals that would transport coal from Wyoming, through Eastern Washington, along Puget Sound, up to Bellingham, and then off to China. The other 50 percent is made up of folks who don't support the terminal (32 percent) or are not ready to pick a side (19 percent).

Cienna recently wrote a feature on the proposed coal terminals and trains.

The Elway Poll collected data from respondents by region, level of awareness, importance of issues like environment and economy, and feelings regarding environmental review.

The results showed only 6 out of 10 respondents had ever even heard of the terminals (low, considering the size and scope of the endeavor). Surprisingly, some of the lowest level of awareness came from those Eastern Washington counties that the 1.5 mile-long coal trains would snake past nine times a day. Not surprisingly, the most intense support came from respondents who don't live along the proposed train route, of whom 33 percent are definite supporters. And oddly, King County was the most supportive area (59 percent) while the county's most populous city, Seattle, had the lowest support (29 percent):

Support and Opposition depends on where you live in relation to the project
  • Elway Poll
  • Support and opposition depends on where you live in relation to the project

Those who had the highest awareness of the proposals were strongest in their convictions of support or opposition. But of those surveyed who had limited awareness of the proposals, the proportion of overall support was higher. "These findings suggest that proponents have the advantage in the early framing of the discussion," the polling memo says. "Since the more casually held opinions favor the coal ports, opponents will have a heavier lift to persuade people with those opinions to change their minds, while the proponents' easier task will be to reinforce already favorable inclinations."

Employment opportunities were seen as the most important consideration in the decision to build. Sixty-seven percent of respondents said that job-creation should be the most important consideration. Of course, it seems the question might have been a little skewed as it seems to have been worded, "Developing these coal export facilities would create about 2000 jobs during the two-year construction period and up to 200 permanent jobs at each port." This phrasing does not address the resultant loss of jobs in sectors such as fishing.

Trailing well behind the hopes of economic gains are the considerations about environmental losses, with 53 percent ranking the number of coal tankers travelling through our coastal waters as the most important consideration, and another 48 percent ranking the number of trains rattling through Spokane, the Tri-Cities, Vancouver, Seattle, and Bellingham as the most important.

Supportive and opposed respondents agreed that information collected in an environmental review would contribute to their feelings about the projects. But there is wide disagreement about how to draw up the boundaries of the environmental review. Most supporters of the terminals prefer site-specific reviews at Longview and Bellingham, but opponents argue that the environmental review be regional in order to include the effects of the transport trains and not just the port terminals. It seems that a regional review has wider support than a site-specific review overall.

 

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Will in Seattle 1
So, no 2/3 majority for the deaths of lots of WA kids?
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 30, 2013 at 4:28 PM
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"The other 50 percent is made up of folks who don't support the terminal (32 percent) or are not ready to pick a side (19 percent)."

So you'll just claim all the undecideds and write your headline that the poll is split.

thanks for the laugh.
Posted by Unpaid intern is being trained on January 30, 2013 at 4:31 PM
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“The United States Energy Information Administration released a report on Tuesday that said China now accounts for 47 percent of global coal consumption, almost equal to all other countries in the world combined. Coal consumption in China grew by more than 9 percent in 2011, or 325 million tons, which equaled 87 percent of the total global rise in coal use.”

“Beijing Takes Emergency Steps to Fight Smog,” NY Times, Jan. 30. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/31/world/…
Posted by tiddlewinks on January 30, 2013 at 4:36 PM
4
"One side has a an 18 pt lead."

"It's split."

Sounds fair and balanced to me.
Posted by GermanSausage on January 30, 2013 at 4:45 PM
5
The coal coming through our region and polluting the areas along the tracks is being shipped to China, which uses at least 40% of the coal being mined in the world. There are areas of China where residents can barely breathe or see due to pollution. All in all, "clean" coal is a really great idea.
Posted by sarah70 on January 30, 2013 at 5:03 PM
rob! 6
So how does the Elway Poll work—you subscribe to the newsletter and can blog selected results? (I notice there's no link; Erica Barnett at SeattleMet didn't have one three hours ago either.)
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on January 30, 2013 at 5:04 PM
Reverse Polarity 7
Your headline is misleading. Um, no, the poll is not "split". Not unless you assume that ALL of the undecided are opposed, which is clearly not the case.

What this really shows is that opponents have a lot of work to do to convince the public this is a bad idea (which it is).
Posted by Reverse Polarity on January 30, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Dominic Holden 8
A split doesn't have to be an even break. Voters are split three ways, and the post is clear in the first paragraph how voters are divided.
Posted by Dominic Holden on January 30, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Catalina Vel-DuRay 9
Take Seattle out of the equation. Restore the eastside rail line, and run the trains through Renton, Bellevue and Woodinville, then over to Everett. Problem solved!
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on January 30, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Will in Seattle 10
Additionally, we should consider that the people who do accept calls from blocked numbers or people they don't know on cell phones, is smaller among younger people, so the oversampling of younger voters only oversamples people who are a. gullible b. lonely c. amazed by cell phones d. answer polls.

the only true unbiased way to poll is to literally talk to people physically, and make sure you include homeless people and illegal immigrants, who may not want to participate.

@7 has a good point. Undecided may mean "not sure if I want dead kids, I'm still listening to the arguments".
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 30, 2013 at 6:01 PM
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I was phoned by the Elway pollers on this issue, and told them I was strongly against the coal trains for a number of reasons (local environmental issues, global environmental impact, etc.).
They asked specifically about the impact of "job creation" and the wording seemed pretty clearly intended to push people to make that the key factor in deciding. They didn't ask about the environmental impact in the same detail.
Posted by slugbiker http://www.seattlescrabble.org on January 30, 2013 at 6:02 PM
Fnarf 12
I think coal opponents are playing this the wrong way. They need to talk about the traffic backups at the crossings -- hours and hours of them a day -- instead of the contentious he-said, she-said enviro stuff. Should people care about coal consumption in China? Sure. Do they? No.

Instead, explain to them that all post-game traffic for any of our soon-to-be four (or five!) sports teams will have to be routed back up through downtown to get away. Show them that not only does the Port of Seattle not get any of the business, but the trains in fact will drive business away from the port -- a great deal for Long Beach, but not us.

Job killer.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on January 30, 2013 at 6:08 PM
Dr_Awesome 13
Catalina, the geezers that have been operating the GNP (now Eastside Community Rail) would love nothing better than to be allowed to play railroad with five or twenty trains a day instead of the one a week they have now.

Their track, the ex BNSF that they acquired from the Port of Seattle is in such sad shape they'd never, ever be allowed to do that.
Posted by Dr_Awesome on January 30, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Catalina Vel-DuRay 14
Dr, I was being a wee bit facetious there, but only a wee bit. The idea of a seven mile long coal train running through Bellevue and past some of the rather tony homes along parts of that trackage makes me giggle. Especially when those homeowners notice that their eggshell upholstery has turned ecru.

Actually, if we wanted to do rail right in this country, we would turn the curiously named John Wayne Trail back into a functioning rail line. That was the best crossing of the Cascades, and one of the best lines in the west. Of course, then we'd have to fight to keep coal trains out of the Cedar River Watershed.
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on January 30, 2013 at 8:22 PM
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"the post is clear"

So why not headline it "Most Washingtonians support coal trains"?
Posted by Sugartit on January 30, 2013 at 9:19 PM
Dominic Holden 16
@15) It doesn't show that "most Washingtonians support coal trains": majority > 50 percent.
Posted by Dominic Holden on January 31, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Will in Seattle 17
@12. For the insightful miles long commuter backup from coal trains win.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 31, 2013 at 2:22 PM

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