It's a long, amazing conversation, and once you start reading you won't be able to stop. I particularly liked this exchange...
What would you do in Ferguson that a standard reporter wouldnât?
Iâd do a special on race, but Iâd have no black people.
Well, that would be much more revealing.
Yes, that would be an event. Hereâs the thing. When we talk about race relations in America or racial progress, itâs all nonsense. There are no race relations. White people were crazy. Now theyâre not as crazy. To say that black people have made progress would be to say they deserve what happened to them before.
Right. Itâs ridiculous.
So, to say Obama is progress is saying that heâs the first black person that is qualified to be president. Thatâs not black progress. Thatâs white progress. Thereâs been black people qualified to be president for hundreds of years. If you saw Tina Turner and Ike having a lovely breakfast over there, would you say their relationshipâs improved? Some people would. But a smart person would go, âOh, he stopped punching her in the face.â Itâs not up to her. Ike and Tina Turnerâs relationship has nothing to do with Tina Turner. Nothing. It just doesnât. The question is, you know, my kids are smart, educated, beautiful, polite children. There have been smart, educated, beautiful, polite black children for hundreds of years. The advantage that my children have is that my children are encountering the nicest white people that America has ever produced. Letâs hope America keeps producing nicer white people.
They also discuss comedy, suicide, Joan Rivers, Bill Cosby, the midterm election, and why Rock refuses to play colleges anymore. Go read the whole thing.