"Only Bernie can stand up to Donald Trump.."
Really?? Sure you want to lead with that??
And all the polls that say otherwise are somehow missing something.

@1 Maybe you should do a google search before you post something stupid.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/poll…
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/poll…

This is a compilation of ALL polls, averaged. Bernie does better.

It should have been obvious to everyone from the age question that the site endorses based on that one click.

Honestly, I'd take this as a humor and move on - but when the Dems have a huge divide it's a bad idea to be divisive. And even if someone gets the joke, that's all it is at the end. "Either's fine!" in the end does nothing to bridge that divide.

And what if they don't get the play - we've little time left to ensure we don't get a pumpkin in the White House, so maybe just endorse both with a piece written pertaining to the strengths and weaknesses? How those weaknesses can be addressed so that no matter who the candidate ends up being, we can all move together forward as one?

@1 what polls? as @2 showed you, every single poll shows Bernie winning by double digits, Hillary either losing or barely winning by single digits. Crackpipe?

As for The Stranger playing stupid games, even The Seattle Times had the decency to straight-up endorse Bernie Sanders.

Grow some balls, SECB.

This sure is annoying.

Holy Shit, you do get a different endorsement for a different age answer.

You think you're being cute? You just made a JOKE of voting. Shame on you.

http://www.jaxworx.com/musings/game-day/

@2/4--

Candidate v. candidate polls taken pior to the conventions are historically WAY off the mark.

Bernie is in the blessed position of not having had to weather any negative attacks, primarily because the Republicans see him as their preferred opponent so they've let him be. Hilary has higher negatives relative to Bernie now because she has weathered GOP attacks for 25 years, which means that people have formed their opinions and she's not dropping any farther than where she is now. Bernie, on the other hand, is new and shiny as far as the national spotlight is concerned. If he gets into the general, expect his negatives to be pushed to the fore: single-issue candidate, no foreign policy experience, the dreaded "S" word. He is WAY above his potential floor. Hillary is at hers already.

Anyway, I love Bernie, but I think it's important to point out that the penchant for pointing to these pre-convention polls is both historically flawed and, in this specific case, more likely to swing away from Bernie than it would with more nationally known candidates.

Really? Age based interactive endorsements? Are you chickenshit or just being cute? In either case what assholes you fucks are.

Bernie Sanders has no fucking political capital. For fuck's sake, get real.

Why does the endorsement for Bernie sound like it was written for children, by children. "Only Bernie Sanders can stand up to Donald Trump on Trump's terms and defeat him. Americans left, right, and center are saying, "You're right, everything is fucked!" The sense of how fucked it is drives disenfranchised whites to Trump and disenfranchised millennials to Bernie. Even suburban soccer moms are driving around with 99-percent bumper stickers on their Subarus, watching their kids graduate from expensive colleges into functional poverty."

Hey, Stranger, here's what I just posted to the FB group "Washington State for Bernie Sanders" about this ageist crap of yours:

Seattle's normally-excellent weekly, The Stranger, is trying to pander to both camps in the Dem caucus battle (online, at least). They've pulled what they no doubt consider a cute stunt for the digital age, by first asking you to pick your age range, then offering up a Sanders endorsement article if you claim to be 30 or under (or if you refuse to answer), or a Clinton endorsement article if you say you're 31+. (To see both articles, clear your browser cookies associated with thestranger.com between viewings, and the page will prompt you for your age range again.)

These shenanigans could be seen as a net benefit for Shillary, since the majority of registered voters are over 30; or as benefiting Bernie, since the majority of Stranger readers are probably under 30. But the bottom line is, they've chosen to abdicate one of the responsibilities they usually take super-seriously -- vetting the candidates and making an informed endorsement to help sway the electorate toward an outcome beneficial to the community.

Congratulations, Stranger -- you've made yourself irrelevant.

You can also open an incognito window (chrome) and everything in that window will be as if you were using a brand new browser. That way you can keep your cookies and save them for a later snack.

@4 Hillary is clearly favored to beat Trump.

She has some flaws (low favorability ratings show that) but she beats Trump by an average of 10 pts, and trending upwards. And Trump's favorability ratings make Hillary's look positively glowing.

I think Hillary's numbers will recover somewhat when the primary is over and Bernie endorses her and we focus on party unity (assuming she wins the primaries, of course). That might also be the case for Trump, but not enough to overcome her advantage.

Sanders does better in those polls right now. This is nowhere near the same thing as saying that Trump is favored to beat Hillary. They can both beat Trump, easily.

I think the GOP is such a dumpster fire right now that either candidate is favored to beat Trump, so just vote for the one you like better.

@ 7, You know what quality Bernie exemplifies by reclaiming the S-word and educating Americans that it means programs and policies that they already support? Leadership.

why is everyone getting so mad about the age thing? c'mon, it's funny. caucus for whoever you want. and in november, let's make sure a democrat gets elected, either outcome.

@14-- I'm not refuting that. I'm discussing his viability as a national candidate and the mud that will be slung at him and his vulnerabilities in a general election, then, ultimately, how they;re likely to make the pre-convention polls people are touting completely irrelevant.

I'm a long-time proponent of democratic socialism. That all has nothing to do with the point I was making, though.

You want to see the real shit storm, go over to the Caucus for Hillary version and see the choking comments from all the Bernie supporters. They are really having a hard time with this not winning thing.

@ 16, If we're too afraid to stand up for what's right because the Republican bath salts cannibals might say mean things about us, then we don't really stand for anything at all.

@11: Judging by comment volume it seems like sloggers skew older. There were like 60 comments on the Hilary endorsement.
Anyway, LOL if they were trying NOT to piss anyone off.

@20 Watch them come out with a follow up saying it was an experiment, that they wanted to see how people responding on both sides, to say "hey, looks like you're all pissed off! Well fuck you, stop bickering amongst yourselves and support whomever gets the nom."

strangers:

Your reckless front cover endorsing Hillary Clinton showed you're either jerks or assholes. Jerks if it's an April Fools not explained inside the newspaper. Assholes if you're actually endorsing Hillary.

I later went online and picked each of the "age" surveys. Even more aggravating, you assign Bernie to 30-and-under, and lump the rest of us into a Hillary group. Insulting.

Likewise with printing two editions with 85,000 copies endorsing Bernie and another 85,000 for Hillary--which edition lists a "Feature" endorsement on Page 14, but it's actually buried on Page 40. It explains nothing, and says I would be "stupid" and "self-defeating" to vote for Bernie. That's elitist-pig talk.

And talk about "self-defeating." This election is serious; your delivery weak. When the Election Board's split, just say so. Print two editorials and sign them. Two editions without explanation? Not even sophomoric. Just "stupid," because you wasted your political capital and earned derision.

--Mark Hennon

When you're an insufferable hipster, this is what passes for humor. Like making fun of mentally ill people comitting suicide or of homeless people using of shopping carts.

If the younger demographic survey button is pushed, you get and endorsement for Bernie. If the older demographic survey button is pushed, you get an endorsement for Clinton. Once you've taken the survey, the decided endorsement is the only one you'll see--and all you'll ever see--unless you clear your browser history and open the article again, making the other demographic choice. This 'clever' manipulation has tarnished The Stranger's integrity in my mind. I may not recover my former trust and appreciation of the organization. A formal apology is in order.

The Stranger used to be good. What happened?

@21: I think that was probably the ultimate aim- we could/do endorse either/both! But the age thing seems like a horrible polarizing way to do that. They could have done something like "flip this coin" and you randomly get one or the other.

I would go cross post that on the Hilary one but can't be bothered to clear my cache. :P

Offensive much? The results changes based on what age or non age you select. If under 31 then Bernie, if over then Hillary, if none then Bernie. Not all Bernie people are young. Annoying!

Haha! This is actually pretty funny. Sure, the age thing is a false trope that has been endlessly repeated by nearly ALL media.

My 18 year old nieces are voting for the first time, and I'm pretty sure at least one of them is for Bernie. I'm for Bernie—and I'm 51—because I remember a Democratic party before Reagan and Bill Clinton, when the Party stood up for social and economic justice. The Clinton Years were a very dark time for America, as the Democratic party moved to the right and set the appalling Reagan Revolution in stone. My father is 82. He's enthusiastically pro-Bernie because, as he says, "if you want to change something, you have to start somewhere". He also has even deeper memories of a Democratic party that stood for social and economic justice.

But what's even funnier, is that 2 of the 3 choices in the survey lead you to a Bernie Sanders endorsement. This is actually a clever way of mirroring the media's false telling of the Sanders story.

What's even more fun than these age-based endorsements is the outrage in the comments.

@30 I guess it must've been super fun since you felt the overwhelming desire to post this in both threads.

I agree with Ray. This could be influential so some. Ninety-five comments (currently) on Clinton endorsement and more contentious I think. Seems like a lot of older folk are for Bernie, too.

If y'all don't want to clear your cookies to read the other article, you can switch back and forth by going back to the article (doesn't work here in the comments) and pasting this into your console (F12) to set the cookie:

$.cookie('e4030',articleHOid, { domain: IDX.env.cookieHostName, path: '/', expires: 7 })

And refresh. Replace articleHOid with articleBOid to get back to Hillary. If you get into a weird redirect loop, try a hard refresh (Ctrl-F5), and you can always paste this in at any point to get back to the survey:

$.cookie('e4030',null, { domain: IDX.env.cookieHostName, path: '/', expires: 7 })

I just snipped these from the appropriately-named code that the Stranger uses, here: https://www.thestranger.com/assets/base/…

Also, pasting things random strangers on the internet tell you to into your console is a bad idea. This stranger promises his snippet does what it promises, and if you know your jQuery you can see that it's just setting a cookie, but, uh, don't get in the habit, k?

Enjoy reading the article you really wanted to!

D'oh, that should read "back to Bernie", copy/pasted my comment from the other thread. Anyways, carry on with the tirades, I'm gonna go get more popcorn.

Never in earnest, is that the motto here?

You are aware that Bernie's opposition to DOMA was based on states' rights, not support for marriage equality, and in fact he was a latecomer to the issue himself. As late as 2009, he suggested that marriage policy should remain a state issue. He was never a champion for marriage equality or anything else, and he hasn't been a champion on women's issue either. You note welfare reform but pivot away from it because he did nothing. Even so, I have long admired his work in Congress which makes the way he has conducted his campaign and the boorish, sexist, fuzzy thinking behavior of many of his supporters all the more disappointing.

This joke is hilarious! As a long-time lover of this paper who's been down on it for a couple of years it was great to see something so fun and playful. Great job, and thank you!

Aw, this is the Stranger I've missed for so long! Pissing off the terminally uptight, exposing the entrenched bigotry of even the supposed progressives of the entitled generations.