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Obama equals change, right? Well, how does change apply to art?

You've seen art by Dan Webb and Susan Robb, now hear them talk about what they think should change in art, and what should never change in art.

I throw out a bunch of questions, and they respond with a bunch of ideas: Is irony really the enemy? (Yes.) Does the national government have a role to play in the lives of artists? (What national government?) Will the collapse of the market help make better art? (It already has.)

Don't expect them to agree. Webb is working in public art as a political statement; Robb has just returned from the Global Creative Leadership Summit in New York, where she was the only visual artist included among a bunch of world leaders in every field. (Here's one of the panels she found herself on.) They both have plenty to say about the future of art in Obama America.