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Very insightful, Katie.
Pearls before Swine, however.

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What these numbers reveal, however, is how racist and sexist African-American women voters are.
White voters vote for African-American candidates in considerable numbers.
Virtually all Georgia black women, by contrast, refused to vote for a candidate of a different race or gender.
Dr King would be very disappointed...

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white women gonna white

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Straight white men vote for a system that provides them with unfair and disproportionate advantages based on their sex and color of their skin, so duh, of course they vote Republinazi.

White women are collaborators in the oppression of other women, racial, and sexual minorities because they identify more with the sexists, racists, and POS abusers, and they directly benefit from this system if they’re married to a white man.

Like the far-white men, they don’t feel empathy or sympathy for those they’re harming, in fact, they enjoy it because it gives them power that they don’t have otherwise.

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Unoriginal Andrew's shorter version:

KKK!

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Because it’s their perogative to do so. Bless their hearts.

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They are voting for fetuses and guns over their economic self-interests because the pastor of their mega-church told them to.

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White women are the worst, amirite?

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@3:

Black people not voting for a white person who doesn't represent their interests, and who may actively seek to inhibit their interests insn't racism - it's survival. Also, using your same "logic" one could conclude that white people who vote for other white people instead of for black people are also racist, amiright?

And when you can show us your credentials to speak on behalf of the late Dr. King, Jr. I'll consider your assertion of his posthumous disappointment. But by way of context, we can look to his own words in reference to previous Republican candidates for some indication of how he REALLY might have felt on the matter today, to-wit:

“The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism...On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represents a philosophy that is morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulates a philosophy which gives aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I have no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that does not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.”

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I'd hate to be labeled a Trump voter, or any kind of Republican. The simple fact that so many Americans refuse to see is that a lot of this country is already socialist. That's what taxes are for. I think we will keep going Left because of what climate change is doing and someone needs the money to clean up all the messes the corp tax hating people are causing. The more this country becomes a disaster area/war zone for racists, the more socialist it will become. If these white women don't see that by now, it's because they want to live in a fantasy world, maybe even getting their bunkers ready for the New Frontier. They just need to see the world for how it really is, then maybe they will start to at least vote Dem, if not ever far left Socialist. NEVER that.

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Blaming white women instead of white men reeks not of misogyny but of misandry, as it manifests the belief that white men are beyond saving and not worth the waste of breath.

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@3

African American women (and men) in Detroit elected a white mayor.
African American women (and men) in Michigan elected a white woman as their governor (a Democrat) instead of a black man (a Republican).
You see, African Americans have no problem voting for people they agree with politically, regardless of their race.

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Because white women stupidly believe if they uphold white supremacy, they will be spared from the deep seated white supremacist misogyny in this society. They could not be more wrong. And yet they continue to support white males who will fuck them over every chance they get. They are in total denial of the hatred of women held by white males. And those who are not in denial, are either sadists or masochists or both. ALL women in this society are despised, even white wealthy women. White men in power are just as willing to destroy them as they are to use them to maintain their power. As a white women I am sickened by other white women and their constant betrayal of other women to (supposedly) protect their own asses. I am sick of white women voting for people like Trump and Cruz. I am sick of white women calling the cops on black people for existing, knowing full well they are likely to get them murdered (it's no difrent than Emmett Till except now there are cell phones to catch these bigots in action). Cops don't hold them responsible. They don't get in trouble. They don't get fined. They don't jailed. They don't even get lectured. Racist white women are horrible fucking people who are just as horrible as racist white men, though arguably more stupid since they are willing to sacrifice themselves in their crusade to uphold white male supremacy.

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@20

Senator, not governor.

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White women in Seattle are the worst, amiright Xina? Especially those who root mass murder at Amazon.

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@19 I wish it were that simple. The backlash against white women occurs because some on the left don't understand what the Republican party is offering them. It seems apparent what Republicans offer to white men, but less so to white women. I'm not going to lie, that's not a completely fantastical opinion. I'll give Republicans this credit: They're literally happy with the status quo, and therefore vote to maintain it. It's a "works for me, don't understand why it wouldn't work for you". There's a certain level of honesty there. Meanwhile, liberals are forever trying to get people to vote directly against their personal interests in the name of some greater good (ie, higher taxes for better education, etc). I respect that too, but on a deep level, there's a dishonesty about it since our culture does not allow us to simultaneously present as altruistic while explaining the direct personal benefit - especially on the left ("oh, he only apologized to assauge his own guilt").

But whatever - I've long wanted the right to stick my dick in the mouth of any white woman I wish, and thanks to Ms. Matarazzo, I've been authorized. Let's Rock N Roll, boys!

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This thread is some serious comedy gold!

Time for me to chime in:
White racist women!!! They are everywhere!!! Run! Hide! Put your dick back in your pants or they will make it a nazi dick!( because the power of the pussy is real)

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@1 & @3 KKKim: Why am I not the least bit surprised that you posted first? You're pissed that Susan Hutchison lost, and incumbent Senator Maria Cantwell got re-elected aren't you? Well get over it.
@15 Excuse YOU. I'm a white woman over 50 and I vote DEMOCRAT. You're welcome.
@21: xina For The Win! You GO, Grrrrrrrl!
@23, @24, and @25: Spoken exactly like typically dateless MAGA trolls who mistake FOX-TV for news. An' all's ya gots is yer Duff beer, yer guns, and yer flea bitten hound dawgs. Baaaaw! The real truth is that you can't stand white women--or anyone else who's not white male-who are are smart enough to vote progressively and who know better NOT to blindly vote Krooked RepubliKKKan.

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Did anyone read the Washington Post article about the Orthodox Jewish kid that converted Derek Black, the son of the founder of Stormfront, from white supremacy to sanity? https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-white-flight-of-derek-black/2016/10/15/ed5f906a-8f3b-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html

Matthew decided his best chance to affect Derek’s thinking was not to ignore him or confront him, but simply to include him. “Maybe he’d never spent time with a Jewish person before,” Matthew remembered thinking.

It took 1) reaching out 2) establishing trust 3) lots and lots of talk and time together to understand that Jews and others are just ordinary people, not the monsters you've been taught about, and 4) lots and lots of talk and time to understand that a white supremacist is just an ordinary person that can be taught something new, or shown that they in fact don't believe their own bullshit.

I can't see how any of that is accomplished by screaming at each other on Twitter.

27

Im thinking xina just hates all things white, including himself.

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@21 Xina,
You're a white woman. Please let us know what you'll do for the rest of us to apologize for electing Trump, and Cruz, and for supporting the Kavanaugh nomination.

29

The self-loathing and outright racism on the left is truly epic.

30

I believe xina is a white male, based on some previous posts it made a while back

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@27: Um, xina is a woman, Ogie.

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32

Prove it

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@27 if you aren't sucking my cock you probably aren't a white woman. just a thought.

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Auntie may not have any real world skills, which would explain the chronic unemployment, but she can change fuck out of a cat box like a champ.

36

White men are so entitled that people get angry at white women for pulling the same shit that white men pull with more venom. White men are seen as more reasonable for voting their own financial interests when it hurts others. If people were not so damned sexist they might recognize that right wing white women are no better or worse than right wing white men. They are bigoted enabling assholes just as much as the men. Stop expecting them to be more compassionate than the men and you won't be so disappointed in them. Spread the venom equally. It really is that simple.

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@36 see post 29

Described to a T

39

Well, it's after labor day so women shouldn't be wearing white anyway.

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36

But you get props for awesome avatar. Zardoz!

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@33, @34, and @35: ...said the unemployed, dateless trolls in their 40s with no better than a fifth grade remedial reading level and too much saggy belly fat from cheap beer, holing up in their moms' rat-infested basements.
@39: Read the article again, sugarlips.

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@42 hey, i'm 37 dickhead!

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@44 and @46: How old are you? Still in the 5th grade and flunking history. What a shame. Obviously you have no idea what a Nazi even is. When did you last get your shots?

50

The discourse on Slog is as worse as it has ever been. This nazi/racist/white/expletive food fight is worse than the usual banter.

It also seems so sad that nobody wants to hear other's options just for the sake of hearing other opinions anymore. Why does everyone jump to battle station mode?

I suppose I'll be called a concern troll or the tone police now.

Go ahead.

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@48 & @49: Oh---I get it!--you're both under age 12 and too young to legally drive, vote, or drink. Understandably pissed about your future because your grossly misinformed parents blindly voted RepubliKKKan. And this is the only fun you have before Mom says lights out. Do you sleep with a flashlight under the covers, too, for protection?

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@50 Don't worry Phoebe, you're my kinda white gal.

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@50 Phoebe in Wallingford: I agree--the vulgarity used in this thread is inexcusable. I'm surprised that comments @40, @43, @44, @45, @46, @48 & @49 haven't been pulled already. No, Phoebe, I don't think you're a concern troll at all. I'm actually glad you showed up in fact.

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"vulgarity used in this thread is inexcusable."

Are white women allowed to tone police?

55

My Gawd, ain't it Lively here tonite.

Supporting the Patriarchy or
supporting the Equal Rights Amendment?

Supporting Womens' autonomy
or inflicting Sharia Law
On everyone.

Stockholm Syndrome?
Free the White Women!

56

@Katie,

I'm sorry you've chosen to write clearly for people who don't read clearly. You should consider getting a tech job.

The more we learn about the science of personality the more it becomes clear to me that people's opinions aren't liberal or conservative. Their personalities are. They are immutable characteristics like being and introvert or an extrovert. As companies have realized that productive work environments have to give opportunities for both sets of people to thrive, policy making is only going to work if it's non-adversarial and tries to make both groups of people happy.

That's not the same thing as supporting moderate positions or taking half measures. It's recognizing that some people have an intrinsic need for order in ways others don't. They can't be happy without opportunities to succeed as an individual. And they embrace competition. An they're a third to a half of our country. And guess what, some of them are black who are voting for Democrats for other reasons.

These people won't be happy in the grand, utopian vision "the revolution" wants to create. And the revolution will of course fail because making 30-50% of the people miserable won't be grand or utopian.

I'm serious about the tech job btw. Go out for a content strategist role at one of the big tech companies. You'll find good people who listen more than talk and try everyday to understand what people need.

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47

A nazi is a National Socialist.

Any other questions?

58

Phoebe has always been one of the more sane ones here.

59

"vulgarity used in this thread is inexcusable."

Wait, the article mentions a well-known actress telling white women to "“choke to death on the white supremacist patriarchal cock.".

The vulgarity ship sailed long before I came (pun intended).

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@50 you see, it's been confirmed, by the most liberal of liberals, that white women are the worst and should be sucking the cock of the patriarchy at all times.

We're just establishing how awesome and liberating the far left is. The far left has convinced us - and there is no fervor like that of a born-again. I'm so fucking woke right now, I can tell even you to suck my dick, since, you know, you're white and female. That's the rule, it's great isn't it!?

If you disagree, you're a Nazi btw.

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Q. "Why do white, black, and latino women vote for the "patriarchy"?"

A. "Because feminism doesn't offer the dream of early retirement to raise the kids while earning half of every dollar your husband earns."

The opposite of Patriarchy isn't feminism. It's Matriarchy. Where women are on top. Men have taken this Planet to the fucking Brink, and they don't appear to feel any need to take the ol' foot off the proverbial pedal. War, as far as the eye can see, catastrophic climate change, we imprison so many people -- I'd be totally fucking okay with a totally different POV.

@57 -- didja save the puck?

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"Men have taken this Planet to the fucking Brink"

Yes but we also invented the birth control pill, tampon and vibrator so we've done a lot for your vagina.

BTW death by war is at one of its lowest points in all of human history. But don't let facts get in the way of your feelings:

https://slides.ourworldindata.org/war-and-violence/#/title-slide

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@55 kristofarian: I know, right?
@57: Yeah. Why did you suddenly change your avatar again? Running from the law?
You're already dumb, Ogie. No need to get dumber.
@58: And you're not. What a coincidence!
@33, @54 @57, @58, @59, @60, @61, @63: You can all choke on my shit first before you keel over and drop head first into the bottomless cesspool you created.

66

65

The desperate cries of the lonely are a sad thing

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26: How often do you walk around with your cock OUTSIDE of your pants? That is still technically illegal in most public situations. It's probably why you keep getting kicked out of the mall and off the Monorail.

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“You can all choke on my shit”

That’s definitely a white girl kink.

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Trusty -- hey, thanks for caring re: my veejay!

"BTW death by war is at one of its lowest points in all of human history.
But don't let facts get in the way of your feelings... "

See: the Middle East
See: the Refugee crisis in Europe
See: Fascism grabbing this Planet by her balls.
See: far far FAR right wing terrorism, right fucking HERE
See also: Climate Refugees
Oh and let us not forget the scary scary Caravans
fleeing US-sponsored unbridled Capitalism/Fascism
in South and Central America.

Let's let the Women give it a shot, big guy.
Men have proven totally In Fucking Capable.

Speaking of "My Feelings."
THNX!

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67

Answer: as often as I fucking want to.

Btw...anyone seen my giant syringe full of silicone? I seem to have misplaced it...

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That’s some funny shit: “caravans fleeing US sponsored capitalism/fascism...”.

And they are fleeing to the US

Surely you see the comedy gold in your statement.

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70

Check your orifices
You probably just mislaid it.

73

"And they are fleeing to the US"

Ironic, ain't it?

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Oh,and didja keep the puck, Plucky Pucky?

75

Krisco-Farian: “ I hate capitalism! I hate the US!! America is evil!! It’s full of racist white women!!”

Number of attempts made by Krisco-Farian to escape the fascist US: 0

That is all.

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@65 and @68: Nope--I don't feel the least bit sorry for you or any other dateless trolls.
@72 kristofarian: Forget it--Ogie couldn't find an orifice with both hands and a flashlight.

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@75: OOooooooo!!! Ogie's mad, red, and scared, folks!!! NOw he's lost his flashlight as well as hs marbles! I-ii-i-is it the ApoKKKalypse?

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Comment @76 is re @66: Seriously, Ogie, you're beyond sad. When your hatred shows itself so glaringly it's no wonder you're a lonely, dateless little troll.

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@74 kristofarian: Ogie lost that, too, along with his marbles. That's why he keeps chasing his tail.

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Hey, Pucky (or do you prefer Plucky?),
I looked it up, so's you wouldn't hafta:
or·i·fice
noun
an opening, as of a pipe or tube, or one in the body, such as a nostril or the anus.
synonyms: opening, hole, aperture, slot, slit, cleft

Pay heed to this special note, Plucky --
(heck, they wrote it, seemingly, just for you!)

"the orifice must be kept free from debris"

Mind the mislaying, Pucky!
Hope you can locate your great big "lost" Tube
(AND get it out]

https://www.google.com/search?q=orifice&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS760US760&oq=orifice&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2744j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Jesus Mary and Joseph kids! Settle the fuck down. All Katie did is type some pretty obvious shit. Nothing deep. Nothing earth shattering. There are a significant number of white women who will vote for their interests, by which I mean their slightly higher rung on the ladder. Check. Even though in the long run, for a lot of them, that rung's going to fall out from under them. It's frustrating because they, as women, should know better. That in the end, when push comes to shove, their whiteness won't protect them. This isn't a new concept or a new, "ZOMG third wave feminazi1!!1" critique. Simone de Beauvoir covered this loooooooong before Katie or pretty much anybody commenting here was born. But yeah, yelling at them won't change them. Some people don't learn unless it's the hard way. As this entiiiiiiiiiiiiiire comment thread has so beautifully illustrated.
Now, I'm going to go see if Phoebe wants to get a drink. And maybe Raindrop. Because his comment made me laugh.

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Wait did Katie not say something utterly obvious? Of course not all white women vote Republican, or should be held accountable for the ones who do. Duh. All the right wing shit stain leaping around in glee at this non-statement though CONSTANTLY use the exact same type of totalizing rhetoric they're condemning! The homeless are X, immigrants are Y, you people need to get control of your people, and on and on all day every day. It's blatant hypocrisy, pot kettle blacking in the worst degree. So fuck you you fucking Trumpian mutts, have a principle or don't.

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@81 Lissa: Can I join you, Phoebe, and Raindrop for a drink? I was all by myself swatting off trolls (I'm wondering if the usual suspects plus a few new ones are 12 or younger and / or with a curfew--notice the most vulgar commenters have gone quiet by now?) until kristofarian @55 finally showed up. I don't know about yelling, but you're right---Trumpists are a rabid bunch clearly beyond the ability to reason.
@81 Lissa & @82 ClaraT: I know, right?

83

Did I get pulled from this thread?

84

Well, this has been entertaining.

85

@16

White people not voting for a person who doesn't represent their interests, and who may actively seek to inhibit their interests isn't racism - it's survival.

"Also, using your same "logic" one could conclude that white people who vote for other white people instead of for black people are also racist, amiright?"
That is exactly what The Left and all the Harpies calling out white women who vote Republican insist, so apparently you are right.

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1964 called and it wants it's quotations back.
But if we are strolling down Memory Lane.....

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman’s issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.

Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.

In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King’s leaving Memphis, Tenn., after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd (W.Va.), a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a “trouble-maker” who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.

Given the circumstances of that era, it is understandable why Dr. King was a Republican. It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860s, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks. Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon’s 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation’s fist goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.

Few black Americans know that it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Sen. Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965. Not mentioned in recent media stories about extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act is the fact that Dirksen wrote the language for the bill. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. President Lyndon Johnson could not have achieved passage of civil rights legislation without the support of Republicans.

Critics of Republican Sen. Barry Goldwater, who ran for President against Johnson in 1964, ignore the fact that Goldwater wanted to force the Democrats in the South to stop passing discriminatory laws and thus end the need to continuously enact federal civil rights legislation.

Those who wrongly criticize Goldwater also ignore the fact that Johnson, in his 4,500 State of the Union Address delivered on Jan. 4, 1965, mentioned scores of topics for federal action, but only 35 words were devoted to civil rights. He did not mention one word about voting rights. Then in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King’s protest against the Vietnam War, Johnson referred to Dr. King as “that Nigger preacher.”

Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats, the racist “Dixiecrats” did not all migrate to the Republican Party. “Dixiecrats” declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than vote for a Republican because the Republican Party was know as the party for blacks. Today, some of those “Dixiecrats” continue their political careers as Democrats, including Robert Byrd, who is well known for having been a “Keagle” in the Ku Klux Klan.

Another former “Dixiecrat” is former Democrat Sen. Ernest Hollings, who put up the Confederate flag over the state Capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina. There was no public outcry when Democrat Sen. Christopher Dodd praised Byrd as someone who would have been “a great senator for any moment,” including the Civil War. Yet Democrats denounced then-Senate GOP leader Trent Lott for his remarks about Sen. Strom Thurmond (R.-S.C.). Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Byrd and Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.

The 30-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party began in the 1970s with President Richard Nixon’s “Southern Strategy,” which was an effort on the part of Nixon to get Christians in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were still discriminating against their fellow Christians who happened to be black. Georgia did not switch until 2002, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, are still controlled by Democrats.

Today, Democrats, in pursuit of their socialist agenda, are fighting to keep blacks poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Examples of how egregiously Democrats act to keep blacks in poverty are numerous.

After wrongly convincing black Americans that a minimum wage increase was a good thing, the Democrats on August 3 kept their promise and killed the minimum wage bill passed by House Republicans on July 29. The blockage of the minimum wage bill was the second time in as many years that Democrats stuck a legislative finger in the eye of black Americans. Senate Democrats on April 1, 2004, blocked passage of a bill to renew the 1996 welfare reform law that was pushed by Republicans and vetoed twice by President Clinton before he finally signed it. Since the welfare reform law expired in September 2002, Congress had passed six extensions, and the latest expired on June 30, 2004. Opposed by the Democrats are school choice opportunity scholarships that would help black children get out of failing schools and Social Security reform, even though blacks on average lose $10,000 in the current system because of a shorter life expectancy than whites (72.2 years for blacks vs. 77.5 years for whites).

Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. More than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.

In order to break the Democrats’ stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party’s economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.

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Part of the liberal mindset is that you are inherently smarter and better than everyone else (for no discernable reason), so you know what is best for them at all times.

This is why the "voting against their own interests" whine is so prevalent, even though it is always being said by people who have no idea what those other people's interests actually are.

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@86 this exercise in distorted history underwriting a mile long freight train of fallacious logic brought to you by Infowars. Infowars: you've got conspiratorial ideation cognitive bias? We've got free parking!

89

Good article Katie.

Comments - well, apparently some people have a lot of time and not a lot of critical thinking.

90

This thread is awful. Good article Katie but I recommend you expand your circle.

"The only white women (or men) I know who might have voted for Trump were the evangelical Christians at my high school."

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@83: You are always welcome Auntie! :)

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@87: LOL the sight of you calling out others for thinking they're inherently smarter than everyone else, without the tiniest hint of irony or self awareness, is just the kind of laugh I needed to start my day off right! Thank you for being you.
@88: That pretty much sums up our Kimmy K in a nut, (and I do mean nut), shell. :)

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"Punishing the collective for the actions of the few....."

FINALLY....FINALLY someone calls out the abhorrent concept of collective punishment. Thank you Katie. You made my MONTH.

Katie - if you have not read Christopher Hitchens' "Letter to a Young Contrarian" you should.

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As Katie demonstrates, just like with any demographic, there are a lot of white women who aren’t very bright. Some vote for Republicans. Some vote for Democrats. Some work for The Stranger. Stop asking yourself why they do what they do and simply try to make them more informed people by offering a clear, concise policy messsge that will get them to vote for your candidate, Republican or Democrat.

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This comment thread is pretty much exactly what that russian Internet Research Agency has been trying to manufacture for the past decade or so.

Good job, Comrades.

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The physical appearance of my aging white self apparently screams "Backward GOP-voting Moron", but my voting record says I'm black! Don't judge a wrinkly book by its cover, people. A lot of us old bats voted for those "minority" women because they hold the best hope for us all in the future.

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@65 Sorry toots - this is YOUR cesspole. We're in here with you now, you're not in here with us.

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@83/91:

Sounds like time to call a SLOG HAPPY! I'm guessing most of the peanut gallery would be too terrified to attend, so it should remain civil, but they were always a good time back in the day, as you well-know LIssa.

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@99:

Yeah, yeah, we know all about your paranoid victimization fantasies...

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@102:

Given that many of the places where we've had previous meet-ups were 21 and over establishments, I seriously doubt most of our current crop of trolls could get in, even if they did manage to set aside their abject fear long enough to pull up their adult-pants and try - staff are generally pretty well trained in spotting fake ID's.

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@100: I do miss Slog Happy!
@102: Back in the day Slog Happy was instituted by The Stranger to make people in the comments behave more civilly to one another since it's harder to be a raging asshole to someone you've met face to face. I firmly believe that it kept the Great Fnarf vs. Will in Seattle Conflict from ending in homicide.
Alas once the staff stopped making them happen they got few and far between.
If you live in the Seattle are, would you like to help organize one? Then you can put your money where mouth is. :)
As far as past Slog Happys sponsored by the Stranger go up to the little search bar and type in Slog Happy. You'll find a few posts.but like I said, we've mostly been left on our own to organize them for a while. I think I threw the last big one as a farewell party for Paul Constant.

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I strongly object to the term "like minded liberals". It continues to encourage and endorse the self-defeating fractiousness among all those left of the GOP.

That's the reason why the GOP keeps winning so many key elections. Those on the right forget their differences when it comes time to vote. Those on the left often won't and don't.

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@106:

Nobody with a life would have typed all of that...

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@107 The GOP don't "forget their differences" they vote as a block (party over everything, every time) no matter what they personally believe because they want the power and fuck the rest of the people in the country and what they want or need, they are going to do whatever it takes. And they are also a much less diverse group in numbers and beliefs than people who identify as liberals. White, wealthy people with power want to hold on that power. The rest of the country is extremely diverse and does not have an agreed upon agenda (destroy everyone else at all costs).

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@104:

To paraphrase Rhett Butler, "frankly my dear, I don't give a damn whether you believe it or not." But, you just go right on burning your few remaining brain cells in impotent, obsessive bitterness over something that happened so long ago ago and didn't involve you.

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@111: But that's WHY there were Slog Happys in the first place! And why wouldn't you want to go to one in your neighborhood? You wouldn't have to worry about parking, and stumbling home after a convivial evening would be that much easier.

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106

It's a bunch of bullshit anyway.

108

She copied and pasted it from an article.

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@114: Is that you? But where is your solar array? Where is Sandra Bullock fighting for her life? :)
But seriously, that's not a bad picture!

117

LOL, You know, if we DO have Slog Happy it's oddly appropriate that it came out of a post about not yelling at people you don't agree with.

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@98: Nope--it's strictly the cesspool you and your fellow trolls created, Sporty. Dig and lie in it all you want. Auntie Grizelda has better things to do.
@117 Lissa: Slog Happy? Sign me up!

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@88 ClaraT and @92 Lissa: Both of you just plain ROCK!

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@84 Francis7: If you find swatting off brainless trolls entertaining, feel free to jump in at any time. You may feel the sudden urge to get a whip and a chair if not a stun gun after a while, however, when the usual pack of rabid nut cases attacks at once.

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@86 KKKim: Jesus! Watch Fox much? Have a drink, get a rabies shot, and lie down, already before your head explodes.

122

To paraphrase Rutger Hauer at the end of Blade Runner, I have seen the trash fires burning in the Slog comment threads...

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@122 tensor: @1 KKKim started it. A lot of MAGA trolls were more than happy to jump in and help fan her out-of-control flames (see comment @86 if you have time to read all of it). As a result, there was a shitload of trash to burn. Trumpists are like rabid dogs----they're out to kill and totally unable to see reason without a blood feud.

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@123: “KKKim started it.”

Is that how you got out of trouble in kindergarten, too?

Oooh — that Wile E. Kim Coyote forced you to write stuff like this:

“Spoken exactly like typically dateless MAGA trolls who mistake FOX-TV for news. An' all's ya gots is yer Duff beer, yer guns, and yer flea bitten hound dawgs. Baaaaw!”

Mmmm... smell the trashfire!


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