"Were too triggering." What does The Stranger mean by this phrase? Sure, I know it started with Trigger warnings about Intraweb posts for folks with certain sensitivities, so they could avoid the politically incorrect words that would cause them harm.. Now, people extend Trigger to anything or anybody that they consider offensive enough to cause harm. While I don't share this outlook, I understand it. But what is "too triggering?" Just asking? My smart ass comment is, how long before everything and everybody is a Trigger and we become Vonneguts Harrison Bergeron world?

@1: It was the parade organizers that said it was "triggering". Presumably, they were referring to Muslim-Americans involved with the parade??

@2 thanks, I hadn't even considered that, hmmmmmmmm

@5, I was wondering what "too triggering" meant, actually. Why not simply "triggering?" The implication is that some triggering is acceptable, but if it's "too triggering" then it must be taken away. Also, my understanding of the concept of triggering aligns more with triggering as something that sets off or causes an event, in this cause emotional pain. However, I see your point as the trigger of a gun, a spring or catch that sets off an event, the firing of a projectile. As for the rest of your commentary, thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings, no matter how off base they may be as they relate to me. The important part is that you shared.

How about a white stripe in the flag?

Yes, you can't blame all Jews for Israeli policy.

But leftists still attack ALL whites for slavery, something which doesn't even exist anymore! At least Israel is still genociding Palestinians. And hardly any whites owned slaves anyway.... And many died to end slavery.

You can't have it both ways dudes.

@8 that won't save you from the Regressive Left charging you reparation payments!

Ironic that the idea of Israel is "too triggering" for some gays, despite Israel's pretty sterling record on gay rights, yet no one has a problem with Palestinian imagery, a country that observes no rights for gays at all.

Many, many gay Palestinians have fled to Israel to avoid persecution.

It is almost like the motivation to ban Jewish imagery is coming from a different mindset than the one presented...

@10 good point and a point that the authoritarian left wants to pretend doesn't exist. Meanwhile, how many gays were killed in Muslim majority nations over Pride Weekend?

@6
Do you think sharing everything is healthy?
Personally, I would've preferred list from @5.

But OK, is this podcast worth listening to?
I prefer to read the comments and get a sense of the podcast before spending my time listening to young people.

@10
Star of David long predates Israel.
Then again, bigots, even gay bigots, are pretty stupid.

Dan said that he hopes that people waving the standard rainbow flag won't be immediately labeled "racist," yet he's been around long enough to know that is exactly what is going to happen.

Dan, you're usually so on the money, but I think your white guilt might be getting in the way of seeing other possible sides to the flag issue.

For starters, can we step back and think about a rainbow for a minute? Scientifically speaking (and the reason it's such an appropriate symbol and metaphor), it is a complete and full spectrum that encompasses ALL color (not just the six bands we associate as the most visible). So, guess what, every single individual in the LGBTQAI-WXYZ community falls in there SOMEWHERE. That was the point -- and why some of us think it seems strange and awkward to tack those other bands onto what is already a complete symbol.

Secondly, those Trans, Bear, Leather, etc. flags you talked about were not created because those groups weren't included 'under the rainbow' but to lend greater visibility to their UNIQUE identities within the larger Queer community. If queer PoC want to do that, YES, please!!! It would do us all some good to see them, remember they are part of us (and to remember that they face a layer of discrimination and oppression that we don't), and to fight against racist sentiments and acts at their sides!

Lastly, since you guys mentioned photos from over the decades of queer PoC holding rainbow flags, let's think about how now feeling some need to edit that symbol might feel for the generations who came before, those of every color and designation who fought hard for their place in society, for recognition and respect and basic visibility. Was the flag they too took so much pride in not enough? Were those queer PoC who fought and marched and died under that flag not represented there until someone "corrected" it? How is this not (in no matter how small or inadvertent a way) an appropriation of a culture and community and tradition?

I do not deny that we have issues of racism within the gay community, and YES, we need to be doing something about that. This just did not seem like the right move.

I think it would be beneficial to read the official statement from the Dyke March organizers. They specifically state that the women were not removed because of their flags, but rather because of their statements regarding Israel. https://chicagodykemarchcollective.org/2…

"Organizers said the Jewish lesbians' pride flags were too triggering."

The Left, Anno Domini 2017.

For me, the gay pride flag is inexorably connected to the National Rainbow Coalition. The NRC promoted the idea of inclusion of all types and colors of people, and there was no black, brown, white, or beige in their rainbow flag—even though the spearhead of the group was Jesse Jackson, and clearly, blacks were part of the focus.

Other pride flags (bear, leather, trans, puppy, etc.) borrow from the style of Gilbert Baker's gay pride flag, and may incorporate elements of it, but they are distinctly different from it. They do not add to it. These flags can be carried along side the rainbow flag. Adding colors other than those that occur in a rainbow looks like someone is asking for special treatment. I would have no problem with superimposing a star of David over the gay pride flag for gay Jews, or whatever symbol proud gay blacks would like, although a raised, clenched, black fist seems a bit too militant.

@8

Wrong.

I'll repeat it for you slowly: all whites in this country (including you and your pasty white snowflake ass) are still benefiting from the legacy of slavery, and the mental, emotional, and sometimes legal, structures put in place in that era.

But keep whining about White Genocide©; it looks good on you.

J/k: stfu.

@23
Take a class on "intersectionality" and start using SJW jargon so your mind has become mush.
Then all problems disappear.

@23
I can't really "suggest" anything, except maybe that you find a methodology that works for you, and especially works for the PoC in your life.

Some of my practices include:

•Listening to PoC, without an agenda (i.e. don't have answers ready if questions aren't asked), and especially without gaslighting. They've spent decades trying to be heard, the least we can do is lend them a nonjudgmental ear. This doesn't mean giving them a free pass; just don't shut them down.

•Trying not to act like a privileged, or entitled asshole. This can crop up in very subtle ways, or, it can be blatantly obvious, as some of our fellow traveler commenters show us on a daily basis.

•Calling out fellow whites when they say or do something stupid or racist.

•I make a distinction between an unrepentant, dyed-in-the-wool racist, and ppl who are steeped in a racist system, that they are more or less trying to get out of.

I'm more or less successful in these endeavors, but as Rabbi Hillel said, "it's not for you to finish the work, but neither is for you to abandon it".

•And i suppose it should be said: don't take jobs where your paycheck depends on your not understanding this stuff.
I suspect several of our SLOG trolls fall in that last camp, as does, seemingly, our police department.

I hope that helps you find answers. I might be able to come up with more, but it's late, and I'm weary.

@24
Sick argument, dude.
And I'm using "sick" in one of its original meanings.

@26
It wasn't an argument, friend.
It was instructions.

The irony is that some of your suggestions (immediately above in @25) are not bad… You simply present resanobale things in such a creepy way.