Episode 150 talks about the historic Stacey Abrams victory in Georgia and then explores the Dodd-Frank rollback, Philip Roth, and what listeners say about talking to Trump supporters. Jessica McGowan / Getty Images


Stacey Abrams wins in Georgia! (Becoming the first black woman in history to be a major party’s choice for governor.) And former fighter pilot Amy McGrath wins in Kentucky! (Becoming the latest badass to defy the Democratic establishment's hopes.)

Dan Savage, Rich Smith, and Eli Sanders talk about what it all means, especially given that Abrams's strategy is to strop trying to win over "moderate" white voters and instead focus on improving turnout among core Democrats. Plus: Is the Bernie Sanders army really imploding?

After that, Katie Herzog joins to talk about the Republicans’ latest effort to help big banks, this time by rolling back Dodd-Frank. Will the Republican voters who chanted “Drain! The! Swamp!” ever catch on?

And then: Who was right during last week’s argument between Rich and Katie over how to actually persuade hard-core Trump supporters? Blabbermouth listeners weigh in.

Finally, Philip Roth is dead at 85. What do we make of this man, who The New York Times calls “the last of the great white males”?

Plus, as always, the music of Ahamefule J. Oluo.