"The artists's statement said that labels create societal divisions," like that's a bad thing? I respect Slog's willingness to publish this truly powerful and dangerous viewpoint, which if followed would convert Slog into a place free of the namecalling and insult coinage that I treasure so.
I actually think we can take a lesson from president Bush and "bring the fight to them". Why fight them in our own territory when we can battle the fuck out of them in their home? There should be no place they can hide from scrutiny.
I passed this along after reading SLOG. Nothing like publicity to get some Mormon hubris on display.
The artist's blog posts (before he took them down to avoid expulsion for advocating homosexuality) linger in my mind. It sucks to be stuck in such an evironment.
Advocating homosexuality, indeed. Somebody needs to make a trip to BYU to actually advocate homosexuality - they could hold up a sign that says, "Try gay."
Technically, it should be refered to as "Brigham Young University, the educational divsion of Magic Underpants, Incorporated". Like University of Phoenix, but with an actual campus, and without the pothead connections.
This is just typical of the gay fascist movement censoring the freedom of religious organizations to censor their students' freedom of expression! Unfortunately, the oppressed godly religious people who control all of Utah and Brigham Young University caved in to all the hateful, censorious, fascist gay pressure. (BTW, the guy on the right is a total babe.)
@3 - Ah, but does the display have a picture of Hitler next to a picture of noted gay Nazi Ernst Roehm? I would imagine not; Hitler had Roehm killed in a power struggle ("The Night of Long Knives").
@7
Who is 'stuck' anywhere?
Everyone knows exactly what the rules and culture at BYU are before they apply.
There are a lot of places you can go to get a pat on the back for being gay, if that's what you want.
BYU isn't one of them.
How sad for these kids. I wish that I could give each and every one of them a full scholarship to another university so that they could escape from Magic Underpants, Inc. altogether and have a real life. The mental cruelty inflicted on young gays and lesbians in the name of God is atrocious.
Colleges run by Fundies are far worse than BYU - Liberty Bell and Bob Jones for example and cause the LDS Church pumps hundreds of millions into BYU it is the LARGEST Private U in the USA, and the cheapest.
In education circles it is deemed a quality degree.
Bashing BYU will not define the scope of homophobia at religious colleges, it is far bigger bigger bigger .....
I admit it is fun, but, on the long term one small target.
When I attended BYU at 16 (finished high school early) I really didn't have other choices; it was either go where my parents were willing to pay for my education, or [insert eternal damnation here]. I ended up coming out after a few months; soon after, I was given the choice to withdraw, repent, or be expelled. I chose to withdraw and spent the next year in some truly soul-crushing circumstances, as my family all but disowned me.
It seems very easy to mock gay Mormon kids for attending BYU, but honestly, they don't have much in the way of feasible options -- and the younger you are, the less options you have. While I'm glad (retrospectively) that I decided the way I did, I really can't fault someone that would rather endure the torture of silence at BYU than enter that kind of hell.
Because that's what it is, when you're under 18 and your family hates everything you are.
Revenge makes people small and ugly. Are you trying to right a wrong or will it ever be enough until all the Mormons are dead? Do you want justice or do you just wnat to hurt people? If it's the second of those two options then you are no better than the people who hate gays. The tide will turn in America, it is turning. In ten years gay marriage will be legal in this country. When that happens and the conservative position on gay marriage becomes a decidedly minority view will you be any better than the people who are oppressing you? Somehow I doubt it.
We could learn a lot from Michael Wiltbank. What we need is precisely "a vehicle for tolerance, support, love and change," and that requires empathy from us gays as well as from Mormons. What a beautiful gesture.
Behold the power of Slog!
I actually think we can take a lesson from president Bush and "bring the fight to them". Why fight them in our own territory when we can battle the fuck out of them in their home? There should be no place they can hide from scrutiny.
The artist's blog posts (before he took them down to avoid expulsion for advocating homosexuality) linger in my mind. It sucks to be stuck in such an evironment.
Yeah, its the eyes and the bone structure.
Who is 'stuck' anywhere?
Everyone knows exactly what the rules and culture at BYU are before they apply.
There are a lot of places you can go to get a pat on the back for being gay, if that's what you want.
BYU isn't one of them.
Colleges run by Fundies are far worse than BYU - Liberty Bell and Bob Jones for example and cause the LDS Church pumps hundreds of millions into BYU it is the LARGEST Private U in the USA, and the cheapest.
In education circles it is deemed a quality degree.
Bashing BYU will not define the scope of homophobia at religious colleges, it is far bigger bigger bigger .....
I admit it is fun, but, on the long term one small target.
When I attended BYU at 16 (finished high school early) I really didn't have other choices; it was either go where my parents were willing to pay for my education, or [insert eternal damnation here]. I ended up coming out after a few months; soon after, I was given the choice to withdraw, repent, or be expelled. I chose to withdraw and spent the next year in some truly soul-crushing circumstances, as my family all but disowned me.
It seems very easy to mock gay Mormon kids for attending BYU, but honestly, they don't have much in the way of feasible options -- and the younger you are, the less options you have. While I'm glad (retrospectively) that I decided the way I did, I really can't fault someone that would rather endure the torture of silence at BYU than enter that kind of hell.
Because that's what it is, when you're under 18 and your family hates everything you are.
Actually, I'll take a little of each. 100% of either sounds boring.