I guess that's it for the newspapers. I've been reading a daily everyday since the third grade. Now I am paying double the price for my Seattle times subscription and getting 1/3 the content. How much longer until they're gone altogether?
Hey now. I admit I'm biased as I work for the Times (and the P-I, really, as I'm in advertising) but for gods sake, I should think that all of us here recognize the importance of keeping a local newspaper and its journalists in business. Even if its editorial board is (in my opinion) too conservative.
Interesting to find out that it's because they now own KING5 (hence the story) and that it's because President Obama will actually enforce rules about market competition ....
Oh well, guess I'll have to rely on The Stranger for my daily news ...
I wish I could buy the P-I, put it up for sale again, get no buyers, simultaneously shut it down and buy the Times, moosh both papers' staff together and rename it the Seattle Sun, put Connelly and Jamieson out to pasture immediately, steal Charles and Jen from the Stranger, grow a handlebar moustache, retire to Mercer Island and try not to shoot any dogs at all.
The print media has been complicit in all of the lies that sprouted from the Bush administration (and previous administrations). Am I alone in desiring an America that A.) is well informed and B.) is perhaps forced to seek out a number of sources?
@17, I wouldn't be so sure. He very well might be forced to sell by the banks that hold the loans.
Look, even if Hearst were interested in buying the Times, that's exactly what I'd expect Swartz to say at this point. As to the rest, we still don't know enough to say whether it's good for Frank Blethen or the Times or not. Seattle could yet wind up a 0-newspaper town. Certainly no one over here is smiling.
#19. Regardless of whether it turns out to be good or bad for The Times, it's not a "gift" to Frank that Hearst doesn't want to buy it. That's my only point.
Other than sadness that someone I know could likely lose their job, I don't give a damn about the PI, but someone better make sure that the Globe doesn't leave town...
I'd advise the Stranger to buy it, but considering the rickety ass condition their building is in, the globe would crush Stranger HQ...
Dammit, at least reading the PI was bearable. And I *heart* D. Parvaz and David Horsey.
I don't have anything against the staff and reporters at the Seattle Times per se, but I'll never buy that paper in a million years because of the airhead, WSJ wannabe, right-wing assholes that write the op-eds and election endorsements.
Hmm, if the dailies go under that could make The Stranger Seattle's only print publication, and probably most important media source (shut up Seattle Weekly).
Do I hear Dan Savage and Tim Keck rubbing their hands together in malevolent glee? I wonder what this means for the future of our fair city.
@28 It means that escorts will have the prestigious opportunity to advertise in Seattle's only print publication. Also, the future will be at least 50% gayer.
Where are all you dillwads going to get your news? From your precious blogs? From your navel? Print or online makes no difference -- if you don't have a newsroom full of dedicated reporters, then you get shit. Who do you think is going to investigate the corruption in the King County Police Department? Remember that? Should we just "get Jesse" over at King 5. Not. In the real world, outside our Puget oasis, reporters get killed and stuff. Do you really think some blogger sitting around in his jammies is going to get the real dirt on gang violence? Or corruption in the mental health system? You need a team of hard workers with lots of support. The Stranger is great, but journalistically, it reads like the staffers' shoe leather takes them as far as Cafe Presse and back.
Daily papers usually make it to your door during earthquakes and storms and power outages. They usually have high standards (commerce secretary, anyone?). And they let you happen upon stories you might not otherwise see. (Is there a term for blogosphere blinders? Screeching to the choir?) Just because papers are old media doesn't mean we shouldn't all have a stake in bringing them into the "new" world. All this hipster arrogance about how the papers "asked for it" doesn't really help democracy keep rolling. You all owe a lot to the news crews of the world who crank out the copy you link to and bitch about.
Why don't we all pull together our trust funds, buy some of this cheap office space, stick the P-I globe on top and call it the People's Independent. Then everyone can take turns working there, covering the glitz and the tedium and putting out an awesome daily (or hourly, if you prefer). Then, when you take the bus to a new spa in Tacoma, or an art opening in Georgetown, you can do a little news gathering along the way. But you'll have to answer to an editor and to readers who know your name.
(That said, I think the Stranger should make like big media and buy a helicopter. Call it "Sky Queen.")
Tim Keck and Dan Savage should buy the PI. Sure it probably wouldn't look anything like the old one, but they'd at least get the name and globe out of the deal.
When I was a kid I read the Olympian (my local paper). the Times and the P-I. In college I dropped the Olympian in favor of the Cooper Point Journal (my college paper), but still read The Times, and the P-I. When I moved to Seattle, it was till the Times and P-I and a tossup between the Weekly or The Stranger won.
I often wonder how much news print that ould look like.
Since a bought my first PC in 1990 I've got 80% internet and 20% TV. Now I get almost all my news, online) off the internet and besides all the papers above, I read i many more (ie. Times Of London).
The only thing I'll miss is about the P-I is its lighted globe, which I think should be the sculpture park, MOHAI or on top of the a very tall building.
I commend the Stranger and wish it would hire more reporters and have fresh news everyday.
Am I really going to have to switch to the fucking Times if I want local news in print? Ugh.
That ship has sailed.
Interesting to find out that it's because they now own KING5 (hence the story) and that it's because President Obama will actually enforce rules about market competition ....
Oh well, guess I'll have to rely on The Stranger for my daily news ...
http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2009/01…
LOL you crack me up
http://www.counterpunch.com/roberts01082…
The print media has been complicit in all of the lies that sprouted from the Bush administration (and previous administrations). Am I alone in desiring an America that A.) is well informed and B.) is perhaps forced to seek out a number of sources?
Look, even if Hearst were interested in buying the Times, that's exactly what I'd expect Swartz to say at this point. As to the rest, we still don't know enough to say whether it's good for Frank Blethen or the Times or not. Seattle could yet wind up a 0-newspaper town. Certainly no one over here is smiling.
Reasons:
1. They blocked my account because I used the word "dumass" and that counted as a violation of user policty.
2. One of the business editors roped me into a phoney job offer and then hit me over the head with a "no" after luring me in.
Screw you PI -- you got what's coming to you, you lying SOBs.
I'd advise the Stranger to buy it, but considering the rickety ass condition their building is in, the globe would crush Stranger HQ...
I don't have anything against the staff and reporters at the Seattle Times per se, but I'll never buy that paper in a million years because of the airhead, WSJ wannabe, right-wing assholes that write the op-eds and election endorsements.
They can suck me.
Do I hear Dan Savage and Tim Keck rubbing their hands together in malevolent glee? I wonder what this means for the future of our fair city.
Daily papers usually make it to your door during earthquakes and storms and power outages. They usually have high standards (commerce secretary, anyone?). And they let you happen upon stories you might not otherwise see. (Is there a term for blogosphere blinders? Screeching to the choir?) Just because papers are old media doesn't mean we shouldn't all have a stake in bringing them into the "new" world. All this hipster arrogance about how the papers "asked for it" doesn't really help democracy keep rolling. You all owe a lot to the news crews of the world who crank out the copy you link to and bitch about.
Why don't we all pull together our trust funds, buy some of this cheap office space, stick the P-I globe on top and call it the People's Independent. Then everyone can take turns working there, covering the glitz and the tedium and putting out an awesome daily (or hourly, if you prefer). Then, when you take the bus to a new spa in Tacoma, or an art opening in Georgetown, you can do a little news gathering along the way. But you'll have to answer to an editor and to readers who know your name.
(That said, I think the Stranger should make like big media and buy a helicopter. Call it "Sky Queen.")
With that policy half of Slog would disappear overnight.
At least I don't shoot dogs from my helicopter.
I often wonder how much news print that ould look like.
Since a bought my first PC in 1990 I've got 80% internet and 20% TV. Now I get almost all my news, online) off the internet and besides all the papers above, I read i many more (ie. Times Of London).
The only thing I'll miss is about the P-I is its lighted globe, which I think should be the sculpture park, MOHAI or on top of the a very tall building.
I commend the Stranger and wish it would hire more reporters and have fresh news everyday.