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Not bad for a "comedy show", Stewart.
Cramer is a poor target, however.
He has been calling for reforms for months and is upfront about anything he has done.(which is why he agreed to come on the show)
Cramer is not CNBC and he is not Wall Street.
Stewart should keep digging if he really wants to do some journalism and not his usual horseass baffonery.
having said that, stewart/colbert 2016!
i'm glad that stewart acknowledged cramer as an unfortunate representative of cnbc. stewart's real target is the entire media/entertainment industry.
He's just a million times smarter, a ten thousand times more good hearted and way better looking than old fat cigar smoking hog Limbaugh will ever be.
I loved the quote where Crammer says that he was lied to by certain CEO, and Jon asks him it he doesn't believe the he has an obligation to did a bit for the truth, not just take everything at face value.
that being said, the interview was a bit depressing because Crammer is such a very small part of the problem, and can in no way take the blame, or answer for the failures of his entire industry.
What's Jon going to do next, go after Dan Savage because his advice caused some couples to break up?
Clearly, the next 8 years of Democratic rule are going to be tough ones for The Daily Show.
Cramer is a Democrat. His show is in serious crisis because of the stock market crash so what does he do? He has all his 'friends' (NBC, MSNBC, Martha Stewart, Colbert & Jon Stewart) give him face time on their shows to promote the 'new format' his show is going to take.
Cramer knows he's a tool and takes it for granted or doesn't care that his veiwers do not. Even if Cramer did revamp his show, removed the heeeeee-larious antics, refrained from screaming "SELL SELL SELL" etc.--he would still not be allowed to call out the bad guys and I don't think he would choose to based on what he said in those clips.
Um, Jon Stewart never claimed to be a journalist, and readily admits his job is to do "horse ass buffoonery".
CNBC sells itself as the go to financial network, and Cramer as an expert, and they give us horse ass buffoonery.
I like that you wrote "mutual masterbation."
And I totally disagree with you. Comedy Central has done a lot to get people who normally wouldn't give a crap to, you know, give a crap. They made it cool to be anti-war and which is where the powers of mass media lay.
Jon uses this dodge all the time, and I've never found it very convincing.
He levels serious accusations against a person, and then denies that he's accountable for the truth of those accusations because he typically does comedy. That's cowardly, and it's bullshit.
Way to stay on topic...
and way to ruin your point by being an attention whoring jackass.
Additionally, I think it's hilarious that you would accuse Jon Stewart of dodging when those who the Daily Show is critical of brush that criticism off as coming from a non-serious comedy program. Now that’s a dodge.
Finally, what's happening all over online news sources today is unfortunate because Jon Stewart was really calling the entire financial industry to task for playing with other's money, openly ignoring the rules and working to keep the industry dirty. Instead of that message being reported, all you see is Cramer being used as a scapegoat as if he's the only thing wrong with the financial sector.
That's a disclaimer for him and his team that has always been there. And it's a truthful disclaimer. They're satirical and have never claimed to be anything else. What gives them force is how everyone else reacts to it. Just because he's not a bonafide journalist doesn't mean he can't raise legitimate issues on the shortcomings of the news channels whose REAL jobs are to bring meaningful news to the masses. After all, it IS what they claim to be doing. They're not Comedy Central.
Like what #24 said, he has higher expectations for his viewers and does not insult their intelligence and their understanding of satire. Stewart doesn't expect things to change soley because they call people/organizations on their bullshit behavior. But he's become an influencing factor in whatever does happen (again, example Crossfire).
And for people defending CNBC/CNN/FOX in general... Instead of watching 24 hour news channels as your only source of information, how about picking up a fucking newspaper or two, or reading feeds from other news sources OUTSIDE of the US?
Stewart's job is not investigative reporting. It's to make fun of people, particularly people in the media industry, and particularly when they aren't doing their own jobs well.
So is the whole 'calling out CNBC' thing a comedy routine? Because people losing their savings is sooo funny.
i think stewart would be quite content to go back to satire.
I couldn't agree more. Jon often serves up serious and insightful commentary. Sometimes it's dressed up as satire, sometimes (like with Cramer) he plays it straight and clearly takes himself seriously. And he is and deserves to be taken seriously.
That's why the "I'm held to a different standard because my network has 'Comedy' in its name" cop out seems disingenuous to me.
i think Stewart is completely accountable for what he says when he's being completely serious (ie, Cramer and Crossfire). And in those situations, he's totally prepared to defend his views in a debate.
The moment when he used that "I'm not a journalist" thing on Crossfire, it was because he was responding to criticism of what standards the Daily Show itself is held up to and what he and his staff does on the show.
Basically: Yeah, you're right. I'm not a journalist. But I never said I was. My show is a *fake* news show. But you know what? I never said it was a real news show and you're attacking it like I'm acting like I said it is when it's so blatantly not.
The people he calls out just get so flustered the get slammed. I don't think the defense is a cop-out because I see it as a response sane to a false knee-jerk claim to begin with.
Wow, I completely decided to abandon sentence structure in the last few lines of my previous post... but hopefully people get the jist.
The Daily Show is not a "fake" news show, nor is Jon Stewart a "fake" reporter. The things he talks about are very much real, and that's the scary part.