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After a tour, I got in the car with my parents and told them to quickly drive away and they agreed. Granted, I then went to an even smaller, Catholic school, but even they were far more progressive and realistic about their students personal lives.
B) The guy on the right is hotter.
Three turned out queer.
You do the math...
I considered it briefly, mainly because it was close to home (which was Pittsburgh at the time) and were offering a pretty nice financial aid package (back then they still accepted federal and state grants, too - they stopped during the Clinton administration). I, too, ended up at a Catholic college (though a slightly larger one) where they pretty much stayed out of their students' personal lives and even encourgaged discussion and debate on campus about issues like abortion.
but i didn't do porn.ummm. i didn't appear in porn..
Pardon me, I have something I need to attend to.
Um, praise Jesus!
by: going to the NYT first from now on
"all four feet on the floor"?
part of diversity is the fact that some people choose not to engage in ButtSex or make ButtSex porno. And people who make those choices are free to have schools for like minded people. And when someone breaks the rules that they agreed to follow before they were admitted to the school they should expect to get kicked out. Without a refund. (but wait, lying is OK if it is done to make ButtSex porn!!)
Because; again you may want to sit down; not everyone's existence revolves around ButtSex.
Don't knock Donkey Sex until you have tried it.
And that four feet on the ground rule? Very odd... Cuz I can think of very fun ways to fuck with all four feet on the ground... And in some cases a couple of hands too.
they are shooting the new AXE deodorant ad..
Aren't they considerate (the AXE people)!!!!
Perhaps bad wording on my part...everyone's feet on the floor at all times. Although like mentioned above, still could have lots of fun with it.
Yeah, close to home (Pittsburgh) and for a while they had a promo going where everyone got a free laptop and printer. And then I toured the place... I ended up at St. Vincent (Latrobe), and while not as crazy as GC, certainly didn't encourage real discussion, and certainly not about abortion. I had to fight and claw just to get some halfway decent ecumenical discussion and even that was given a wary eye.
but yeah, about the whole christian college/homo thing? what are the odds? very, very high. if the cc/h folks i know are an accurate sampling, then yes. very, very high.
And black underwear is so over - the Stranger creeps closer and closer to more porn.... OK, but get some taste in men
Yeah, sorry to hear about the accident.
Who would have guessed you could cut your dick off sitting on a poorly designed unstable toilet seat? (of course, the designers didn't probably expect anyone with a dick to be sitting down to pee...) Good luck with the catheter and lawsuit.
I was under the impression it was better known for its politics than its religion.
So many right winged christians....so few lions! :-D
And now, to address some Grove City myths and policies.
Yes, there is a chapel requirement, but it is not every day, or even three times a week. Students have to attend 16 a sememster, which equals one a week. Call that brainwashing if you like, but it is a religious school. Is a weekly dose of religion really that surprising?
Dorms are gender spearated, and there are rules for intervisitation. All the students hate it. There are NOT, however, gender separated cafeterias. There are several recreational facilities open 24/7 to both genders.
95% of students DATE. A few court, but that doesn't mean group dates, it means that they involve their families in the process and have the intention of eventual marriage. Most people just date though.
Call us Christians whatever you want, but that just makes you a hypocrite. Discrimination against religion is still discrimination. The word for this witch hunt you are conducting of Christians is called "persecution." You know, when you take a group of people and make judgements about them based on stereotypes and ignorance? Look in the mirror.
I went to Gannon University in Erie, which in those days was pretty liberal/progressive for a Catholic university. My freshman year, one of the students living in universtity owned apartments put a sign in her window that said "Pro-Choice and Proud". Not only did the university not make her take it down, it sparked all kinds of debate on campus about respect life issues and freedom of speech/freedom of religion.
Of course Gannon, like so many other Catholic instituions recently, has swung further to the right in recent years. It makes me kind of sad.
"christian" side of the fence...and let me tell you that there isnt a more judgemental, hypocritical group of people with a penchant for persecution on the face of the earth( remember the crusades and the reformation?). "believers" expect to be able to live their lives according to their beliefs ( they want prayer back in schools....to display xmas and easter decorations....come door to door " witnessing for the lord")... however, non-believers and people of other faiths are persecuted daily by " the church" for wanting live their lives by their own beliefs or lack thereof.
however, thats not the topic here.. I still say what is done off campus is none of the schools business. none of this would have ever come up if some closet case hadnt been whacking to pics on the web.. found the sites john was on.. and decided to spread the news. ( btw.. what is the punishment for the kid who was looking at the porn??) i also am of the opinion ( being the articles are saying he's been at gcc for four years..i'm assuming he's a senior) that graduation is this month.. let him graduate.. he's gone.. problem solved. OR.. if he still has another year of college to go.. let him transfer his credits to another school and get on with his life... again. .prblem solved.
All four feet = both feet of both persons. (sheesh!)
I get it. It's ok to judge and condemn people as long as they are Christian.
I think that your reply shows exactly what I am talking about. You are on this public website, preaching anti-Christianity based on what the "Church" does. First of all, what is this "Church?" There hasn't been an established church in over one hundred years. Christians today are grouped by something called denomination. Denominations interpret scripture differently. Several denominations even include homosexuals. Are these Christians judgemental persecutors? Or are you actually making statements about a diverse group of free-thinking people based on the stereotype of the fundamentalist Christian? Actually, if you read the entire article this is pulled from, John himself still claims to be a Christian. He also says that GCC is an excellent institution. His differences are legal. Since all Christians are close-minded, he must really be hounding himself.
As for your reference to the Crusades and the Reformation, I don't see what you are trying to say. The Crusades were an attempt to regain the Holy Land, fueled mainly by non-religious reasons (greed, power, corruption) and organized by a corrupt Pope who took advantage of pious and uneducated soldiers. No educated Christians today justify the Crusades. And the Reformation? A group of Christians had theological and sacramental differences of opinion and split from the Catholic church. Where's the persecution?
The school suspended a student for violating rules he was fully aware of before violating them. That's their right as a private institution, just as it was his right to violate them. He isn't being persecuted for being gay. The only ones judging people publicly for their beliefs would be you and your friends. Now I am going to judge you based on your actions.
You, sir, are a hypocrite.
"i've been on the
"christian" side of the fence...and let me tell you that there isnt a more judgemental, hypocritical group of people with a penchant for persecution on the face of the earth( remember the crusades and the reformation?)."
You obviously aren't aware of the Muslim word jihad. Read the Koran if you want some gay-bashing, woman-hating fun. There are also neo nazis, the KKK, and militant atheists that all are easily more judgemental and hypocritical.
That photo has ween. Surely there is some sort of (possibly laminated) note that says "Don't get the slog readers fired" or something.
ALSO, this new registered comments thing is FUCKING POINTLESS if I cant click on #17's picture and get some sort of profile so I can bang him. I mean that guy is hot COME ON PEOPLE.
I'll let you pretend that you aren't just backing down because I refuted your points and called you a hypocrite. But I actually do have the right to "spread the word." It's this little thing called the First Amendment. You're still wrong on the legal aspect of the case as well. It is perfectly within the right of a private institution to set behavioral guidelines governing student action while enrolled, as long as no one's rights are violated. No one's rights have been violated.
Oh, and the stick up my ass is for people who judge denounce and degrade others based on their religion, bash the school all you want, but I don't see what you could really bash other than the fact that we are Christian, which makes you a bigot, or on the majority Conservatism, which is a valid argument if you can back it up. But certainly don't try to argue with a viewpoint thoughtlessly, or you will be stuck in the position you are in now: defeated.
Who's stirred up? You are the one resorting to insults. I'm pretty certain I have been rational and calm throughout this little debate.
Who's intolerant of other's lifestyles? You are a self-proclaimed bigot, and hence a self-proclaimed hypocrite.
There. I did what I intended and got you to admit what you really are.
While Jesus might not have addressed the issue directly, I don't think you are reading the Old Testament. You may have heard of this famous one though, it's the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Look it up.
@ 10: I am so with you on that. The guy on the right is gorgeous. Although the video clip Dan linked to is pretty hot in general, not gonna lie...
I assure you, it will definitely stand up in court if it comes down to it. Ask a lawyer of any age, race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. The US Constitution, which gives us our rights as Americans, also gives us the right to give those rights up. He did so willingly. The legal principle of Freedom of Association gives private institutions the right to enforce these agreements and has been consistently held up in the US legal system. They are some of the same laws that protect labor unions.
Seeing as you are a blatantly bigotted, incredibly ignorant, obviously under-educated, hypocrit, piece of shit, I suppose I won't be too harsh on you for your idiocy in your attitude towards Christianity. But I will say it's a good thing people don't take much stock in what people like you and upyours (who I'm pretty sure might just be you) think. It's people like you that lead to things like slavery, the KKK, and genocide. I think a coward is someone who sits behind his computer and reels off hate messages towards people he doesn't know based on their personal beliefs, and I am inclined to think the people on this website would agree with me on that point. Feel free to express your opinions, it is your right as an American. But you are wrong about the rights of private institutions and you are wrong about Christians.
John Gechter still considers himself a Christian, as any number of post-incident interviews with him has confirmed. He has just gone through a hard time with some things, as you may have read in the article above. I find it really terribly insensitive of you to publicly "bash" and disrespect him like this. I'll continue to pray for him, and maybe double it up now that I know whack jobs like you are out there publicly proclaiming him a "moron" based on his religion.
I also lend financial support to the gay porn industry. I think it is very unfortunate that GCC does not have room for someone with John Gechter's talents, but I would defend to the death (read that more rhetorically than literally) the right of GCC to run their private institution any way they want to (I hope you grammarians will forgive me for ending a sentence with a preposition). I commend GCC for resisting the heavy hand of an Uncle Sam who would dearly like to dictate their policies. Student is right that their questioned policy would hold up in court (at least until Obama has had enough time to appoint appropriately empathetic judges).
I'll end with a proposition for Student (no, not that kind of proposition since he seems to be straight). No student should leave GCC as a registered Democrat (somewhat surprised to learn that the school accepts your type). I hope you will explore the exciting principles of libertarian philosophy and thereby graduate a truly well educated young man.
Now I would like to make a confession. I lied. I am not a registered Democrat at all. I was just trying to invoke some thought on the part of the others in the discussion. I'm one of those, research and vote on principle over party people, and I have a conservative leaning. We do, however, have a Democratic party club with at least 15 members. And while I see wisdom in Libertarian policy, I won't vote for it until it is amended to be a little less idealistic and a little more plausible.
It is lamentable that from a "Christian" community, someone so brimming with bitterness can emerge. It is clear you had no basic advantages given to those who attend GCC, such as parental love and support, family values, exposure to higher education, and I am guessing your family was on public assistance, correct? I had the love of my parents and they did their best, and I suppose I should try to understand where you are coming from, but--
It is not too late to make a difference in the world or in your own life. You can still learn, find classes to advance your future. Stop "thanking God" that your father is dead. Doesn't that stand in stark opposition to your "atheism"? Start wondering what you can do to brighten the world. Gechter's problems are nothing compared to yours.