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1
As a straight man, I don't mind dicks in bars. I bring my dick into every bar I go into.
2
you should be very proud of this post
3
I was waiting for "Dicks at Dick's", just to give the piece a hometown, family feel.
4
Seattle's government leadership (closing of bars, strip clubs, "massage" parlors) makes it an uptight prude city.

Raising a 7-incher in your honor Dan.

5
Oregon just cut the crap and makes it illegal to approach another person with your genitals or approach the genitals of another in any circumstance, makes erections or "obvious arousal" illegal and lets it at that.

An establishment that is 21+ should make no special concessions beyond preventing actual physical encroachment.

Beyond that, this post is fucking amazing.
6
Dan, you're drunk. Go home.
7
Now *that* is some fucking journalism.

Fuck you, LCB.
8
Oh that was fucking awesome.

Now ... let's find some va jay jay in bars!

This game is fun.
9
I like how this post follows the "You Are What You Eat" post.
10
Ok, who's dick is this? Dan??
11
Thank you for the public service (or should I say pubic service?) you are providing to all of us who love the dick.
12
It's been a good day on Slog...a good day indeed. Very ballsy Dan...or would it be dicky? In fact, what would happen if balls started showing up around town too? Maybe you could do a report on free-balling around Seattle?
13
This is all very amusing, but I can't help being more than a little outraged. Good reporting, Dan. Clean it up, and I'm sure you could arouse the attention of the mainstream media.

I'll never pay enough taxes to pay for that flash moment, and it boils my blood. What can we do?
14
that's a pretty nice dick actually
15
What the fuck?
16
This is so absurd, as a native Seattleite I can't believe it and I'm embarassed. The Eagle is a weaker victim that is being singled out as easy prey by a homophobic element in the state government. It's nothing more than a witch hunt. I think we as a gay community need to put a stop to it NOW! Maybe we need a stonewall all over again. It's a gay bar and whatever individuals do is not necessarily the responsibility of the bar. It's a man's gay bar, and if your not gay and you don't like what goes on in there don't go in. This angers me so much I'm going to be calling my Councilmen and Mayor. It's ridiculous.
Dan Engstrom
Fremont

17
It's most likely DJ's other dad, your boyfriend. I hate to throw this in your face, but it's very...uh...how do you say this.......it's a bad move as a parent to behave this way and reinforce it as a spouse.

Ugh
18
I know my boyfriend's dick. I've served my boyfriend's dick. My boyfriend's dick is a friend of mine. That's not my boyfriend's dick.
19
Oh, ok. Strike #17 (I wish there was an 'edit comment' feature)

My apologies, Dan.
20
I will be in town next weekend. I have marked this as a place to go.
21
No worries, StillNon. But... seriously... if you knew my boyfriend... there are things he won't do. This would top the list.
22
We'll never know who the brave soul is who exposed his piece for this piece.

Who ever it belongs to, its nice, attached to something even nicer, and probably gets appreciated up close and personally frequently.

23
Ahhh, happy memories from my Eagle days. I always bought the best weed there from a Jewish lesbian there who goes by Heidi sometimes, Jesbian other times. She's so manly she completely fits in there.
24
Oh My, is that some poor intern? Back in my day, the most degrading thing an intern had to do was process microfiche (ask your parents about that one, dear)

25
With budgets getting cut, why do we still have an LCB? What would it take to get an initiative on the ballot to get rid of the LCB?
26
Best Slog post ever.
27
At least he didn't sneak a gun into City Hall, using his press credentials as cover.
28
Oh, Don. The point of that piece wasn't the gun. It was the drugs. The mayor wanted bars owners to report any and all drug activity even though doing so would, under the mayor's proposed rules, result in a bar's closure. Bartenders, doormen -- they had to watch for drugs, report it. I told the mayor's staff, once in was in, that I had drugs on me. I offered them drugs. They didn't report it, ask me to leave... they didn't do anything.

The gun was a side issue.
29
I was really impressed by the correct usage of "passersby."

Oh, and great dick!
30
Dan @ 16, it's not just an insult to gay men. It's an insult to all rational adults in this state, whether we frequent adult oriented establishments or not: The idea that we somehow need to be sheltered from vice in the places that we choose to visit.

We love to talk about how we are a "world class" city, yet we let a paternalistic, anachronistic bureaucracy like the WSLCB exist out of fear that people might think we are advocating alcoholism if we suggest that it is an organization that was never needed to begin with, and is even more unneeded now.

But beyond that, if we were to abolish the liquor board tomorrow, we would still be burdened with a puritanical mindset that allows the Seattle Police Department to shirk their real responsibility - public safety - in favor of harrassing bars, stripclubs, and other "dens of iniquity". No one's forcing anyone to go to the Eagle, and no one's forcing them to stay - so why is the SPD even there in the first place?

And it's not just conservatives who are guilty of this - many liberals get preachy and screechy when the idea is floated that we don't need such strict regulation of bar and strip clubs. The children are trotted out, as they always are, as examples of why we need to restrain ourselves: If we were to relax zoning on strip clubs, for instance, or let them serve booze, there'd suddenly be a pole installed in the lobby of the Olympic Hotel, and you'd see the Seattle Girls School offering classes in lap dancing.

Abolition of the WSLCB and reform of the morality laws are exactly the sort of thing the initiative process is designed for - but we will never see a movement like that, because there is not the corporate interests to bankroll that sort of initiative. We'll just continue to pretend that we need this sort of "protection", and that liquor control is a desirable function of government in the 2qst century.

God, that took everything out of me. Where's that bottle of Frangelico.....
31
Thanks Dan,

If your point was to make clear how the degenerate neo-urban gay man stereotype is, then you did a great job.

Has it ever fucking occurred to your diseased and egomaniacal mind, that waving your dick in public is, in point of fact, illegal and certainly not something that normal decent people who go out for a few drinks with friends want to see? To me, whether it happens in a nightclub, church, or the city park, it is a form of sexual assault by a social misfit, one that deserves to bring down the rule of law.

The fact that you find it funny, and see fit to show your pathetic ding-a-ling as some sort of protest, demonstrates your disgusting opportunism.

It also makes clear just what a poor example of the gay community you are. You do a great job making us look bad. The religious right has nothing on you when it comes to keeping us down in the ghetto.
32
YEAH!! Everybody get your sharpies and timestamp those dicks and SLOOOOGGGIT!!
33
Oh, ecce! I love you and I've missed you! Welcome back!

Not my dick though. But you can fantasize all you like.

xo
Dan
34
"...dick dick dick dick dick dick dick dick dick." "How many dicks was that?" "A lot."--Quentin Tarrantino, Reservoir Dicks (1992)
35
Oh my gosh. Whoever that dick belongs to needs to eat a good meal. Such skinny legs!
36
You have completely lost your mind, or you have been ingesting a lot of some legal or illegal substance.

I can't decide if that is a good thing or not.

As far as I am concerned, if some guy wants to let it all hang out in a gay bar, who cares? I'd honestly have an issue in mixed company, though. I'm not a prude (I looked at the pictures after the cut), but I don't necessarily want to see that if I'm out having a drink with friend after work.

But yeah, the LCB should either have something better to do or should be cut back if there are budget problems. And that applies to all states. Unfortunately, in my state, there are only two areas where the legislature can make cuts to balance the budget: health care and education (which includes the arts and museums). You gotta love Louisiana.
37
Dan, it boils my blood (call me humorless). Thanks for raising your voice.
38
I have to agree.... one of the best posts here yet.
but i had always imagined Dan a bit more hung.....
39
I don't have a dick attached to my body. The one I usually enjoy belongs to someone who probably wouldn't go along with the idea. Would other NSFW pictures help your cause?
41
Catalina - I have fond memories of being but wee and my mom setting me down in front of the big, bright, and loud microfiche reader.
40
Catalina - I have fond memories of being but wee and my mom setting me down in front of the big, bright, and loud microfiche reader.
42
As a straight woman I've seen a whole lot of straight guys whip it out in mainstream bars. and the other day in a coffee shop...lucky me?? If every establishment in which dick was exposed were shut down, no one would have anything to do on a friday night or basically ever. The absurdity of the LCB is completely overwhelming.
I wonder if I wear a low cut shirt and expose my breasts by accident (or on purpose) I'm going to get some bar shut down. Somehow I doubt it.

and off the subject, Dan, I freaking love you.
43
How do we get their budget cut? Seriously. Here's a HUGE waste of tax payer dollars which is bad for the economy. That money should go to things that actually make things better - like schools.
44
As a former Eagle DJ i must say that the Eagle's reputation is based more on the great fucking music there than the dicks. At least that used to be true. Have been out of town for a number of years now, but i believe that tradition is being upheld.

Or, maybe it's always depended on who you ask. Some people are cock-obsessed and that's all that matters to them. To me, though, the music playing makes all the difference, and it was the only gay bar i could stand to be in for any length of time. (Re-Bar doesn't count, does it?).

Um, does the Cuff still suck dick?
45
I should add that I do believe there's more than a little old-fashioned homophobia inside the SPD and WSLCB. This isn't the first trouble the Eagle has had about this sort of thing. In the minds of all those uptight twits, The Eagle has represented the lowest of the low, being a real den of depravity. It's even seen that way by a large part of the gay community.

I'm certain you understand this point, Dan, that's this is all about people's uptight attitudes about sex, (and by association drugs and rock music). The Eagle has long been an easy target. So, what I'm wondering is: is there anything really different or unusual about the current cirmstances?

And i must say, brilliant idea to use dicks everywhere in defense of The Eagle. It would warm the cockels of my heart if all pubs and bars, both ritzy and dive, straight and gay, rally to support this cause. Death to the prudish, homophobic WSLCB!
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31ftw
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got to say love the article , liked the dick a lot... hope this dick is not orphan... made up my day, already 12.37 here in Athens and day dreaming about it.
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edits>

#44,¶3: Um, does the Cuff music still suck ass?
#45,¶2: ...circumstances. Maybe what's changed is your ability to be aware of what the WSLCB is doing. Which raises the question: how did you discover this news (and how can we get updates on their "progress"?)

¶3: ...straight and gay, rise to the occasion to support this cause.

49
Great post Dan - awesome work!
50
Great idea! Everybody have a fun time on the sex offender registry when you get caught!
51
oooh-
boy penises!
maybe Dan is gay after all...
52
You need to do a video, but with narration in the style of the 60's Batman series, "What's this!?! Dicks in city hall? Right outside council chambers? Is nowhere safe from this growing menace?"

http://it.truveo.com/Batman-60s-Tv-Serie…

Also this video seems fitting too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGRPFUYUU…
53
Great piece! ...the Eagle is a sweet bar and the WA LCB hates America. Not only America; the WA LCB hates alcohol.
54
50 rflmao
55
Okay- Not to be a smartass- but from the way that Dan described the Eagle, is it really a place that folks go for a drink with friends from work?! I mean friends from work who you don't want to share a dick sighting with? Really? I wouldn't want my niece or nephew to see a bunch of dick flailing about everyplace (say Disneyland) but I'm likely not to take them to the Eagle. However, if I lived in the area, I would like a good place to go see some dick occasionally if I so choose, and it sounds like that's the purpose of this bar. We aren't children and the government shouldn't hold our hand. Maybe the best solution is for people to get a clue about where they take their work friends for a drink.
56
Dan, I have really mixed feeling about this post. I have no doubt whatsoever that the Eagle is being unfairly targeted, and that the police have much better things to do with their time. HOWEVER, for the past few years, the Eagle has gone WAY over the line in terms of public sex and drug use. Up until a few months ago, it was not uncommon to see dozens of men next to the DJ booth fucking and sucking as if they were in the back room of an Amsterdam bar. Going outside to the patio meant there were at least a dozen men getting high (and lots more smoking cigarettes, which is also illegal). NO ONE ever cared about any of this -- it was just part of being at the Eagle.

What I found so shocking is that after the police came SEVERAL times to stop the sex and drugs, it was still going on. This is far more than someone having a dick out. It is about the fact that up until the last few weeks, the bartenders and bouncer would walk the bar and not do a thing about the behavior they were warned about. (In fact, it was only a month or so ago I complained that people were getting high on the patio and the bouncer looked at me like I was crazy and did NOTHING.)

I am not an Eagle hater. The Eagle is the bar I usually hang out in. I would never dream of going to the Cuff, which seems little more than a location for bachelorette parties at this point. But the owner and staff of the Eagle have never cared about what goes on in their bar and STILL refuse to monitor the sex and drugs.
57
Oh and in the video, the LCB officers need to be portrayed by Ken dolls.
58
56, It sounds like you want to make the Eagle into a location for bachelorette parties. I don't do drugs, nor do I have sex in bars, but it doesn't offend me that others do. If I go to one of the many Eagles around the country, I don't expect it to be a family environment.
59
@57 Only if the Eagle patrons can be played by GI Joes. Yum!
60
59, or better yet those anatomically correct G.I. Joe-esque dolls. The name of those figures escapes me right now.
61
Calm down everybody it's not Dan's dick. It's mine. And Dan, your right. I am stalking you. Think Fatal Attraction!!!
62
@56
What's your Problem!?
Can't a bunch of moral upstanding family men let off a little steam without the nanny state bitching it's head off?
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@61

Your? Dumbass.
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@56 Honestly, all those things you're complaining about I would love to have legalized.
Who cares if someone wants to have some fun on a Friday night. Some like to drink, some get high, some smoke some pole. Who are these things hurting?
65
@56 Why would you (claim to) hang out at the Eagle if you're so offended by what (used to, before the WSLB started cracking down A YEAR AGO) go on at the Eagle? Are you really that freaked out by weed and ciggies? Really?? Go back to your convent and leave the rest of us to patronize the bars we see fit. If the dick is such a problem for people, then they won't patronize the bar. That's called capitalism- something that conservatives seem to love in idea, but loath in practice.
66
WTF is the LCB's problem?

After we lose the Prop 8 battle, the LCB is on the list for potential riot spots.

NO MORE MR NICE GAY.

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awesome! someone has a lot of balls
68
This post is awesome. I once saw dick at the Canterbury but I wasn't as quick-thinking as the WLCB guy and let it swing on by, flaccid and unphotographed.
69
Just when I thought Savage was a washed-up hack, he comes up with this stunt / call to action. Fantastic!
70
As usual, Savage steers the story towards himself and/or his crotch. And with typical rambling logic - that openly displaying dicks in a public bar is comparable to quickly, furtively unfurling in a vacant city hall corridor. Oh, bravo! OK, It confirms the stereotypical gay man image held by homohaters. But, by God, Dan, who so often runs photos of his big head, finally got pics of his little one published. Of course, that's the singular purpose of this piece - even if it inadvertently reveals which head he thinks with.
71
Fucking wonderful post, great idea. I must be parochial beyond words, 'cos it makes me super happy when you put serious verve into your local stuff. I still wish you'd be mayor.

Wuuuunderful.
72
THIS JUST IN: PEOPLE HAVE SEX AND DO DRUGS IN PUBLIC PLACES - FILM @ 11...

Seriously @56, if you shut down every public place where anyone has ever done drugs or had sex, nobody would ever be allowed to go outside again.

And there's an even more insidious issue that Dan sort of skims over here, but which is more salient, IMO: the guy "going commando" in the UK was not intentionally exposing himself, he just happens to be not wearing underwear (which, so far as I'm aware at least, is not currently illegal in this state), while at the same time wearing an unbifurcated garment (also not illegal).

My question for the LCB would be: if the person in the photo was indeed guilty of "indecent exposure" or some similar offense, why was he not arrested on-the-spot? And conversely, if he WASN'T guilty of any sort of infraction, how could the establishment be held liable for what is in essence a case of incidental exposure?

And although I'm not sure the "up-skirt law" was originally intended to apply to men equally as to women, in this case it seems a least probable the LCB officer may in fact be guilty of some sort of violation for having taken such a photograph; or I'm at least guessing a court would have a reasonable expectation of making such a judgment, if it ever came to trial.
73
@44 @48 Yes, The Coiff still blows. Harder than ever, in fact.
74
Wagging the weenie in a gay bar is just part of the territory but it DOES come off as a desperate move by the wagger. It's like, "OK I get it, you're horny." The rest of us prefer to cruise a little more subtly.
75
Goddamn it... Look other straight people if you have wonderful gay friends who are kind enough to invite you to join them for an evening out, please remember you are going somewhere where you will be a fucking guest. They are not taking you to Cheers, it will not be like Pioneer Square. Your job as the token breeder is to sit at the table, speak when spoken to, and politly take in the experience that your friends are being awesome enough to let you in on. It's not your bar, its their bar and just like they wince and laugh kinda nervously everytime they join you in Pioneer Square and some bitch is flapping her tits in everyones face; it's your job to return the favor and tolerate some dick when you are out with them. Either expect to have to deal with some cock or don't fucking go to gay bars, its really that simple.
(sorry, please try not to trip over my soapbox...)
76
Sooo... I sent in a Last Days hot tip last week because I saw a woman jacking off the guy next to her on a PACKED BUS at 1 pm on a Friday AFTERNOON. When I go to places like the Eagle, or the Cuff, CCs...shit even QFC after midnight on a Saturday night, (which I admittedly don't frequent that often), I know that I may encounter a wiener or two. I accept that fact when I pay the cover charge.

Now, when I pay my bus fee, I am never going to be OK seeing wieners in that environment. EVER.

So, since the city is so hung up on getting wieners out of gay bars, what are they doing to make our city buses wiener-free?

Tania

Great article Dan... if the P-I had been more like this, maybe they wouldn't have gone under.

BTW... Even as a lesbo, I have to say I'm impressed with the wiener in your article... and I apologize for using wiener so many times in this post.
77
Really, Dan? Really?
78
The Seattle Eagle is SO tame compared to most. I once went to an ass-eating contest at the Portland Eagle. I guess Portland's equivalent of the LCB just doesn't care about protecting the innocent!
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@33

Bullshit that's not your dick.
80
I do hope you plan on sharing the evidence of dicks in every bar with Slog readers.
81
no, i don't think that's the infamous Savage Schlong...Dan doesn't seem like the large jewelry type...unless he's trying to misdirect us!
82
I will try and get some dick shots from IML just for you Dan.
83
@56 - i call bullshit on your post dude, the bartenders at the eagle have done a lot to comply with the liquor board. and they have been policing the patio for smokers for MONTHS and like any bar, get pissed off it people out there try to smoke or get high behind their backs. ...and "dozens of guys"? WTF? That back part of the catwalk maybe holds 12 people to begin with.

They already can't show nudity or porn on the screens and in fact had to cover up a nude male calendar they had hanging behind the damn coat check. It's excessive hateful behavior by people that are complaining to the liquor board... probably from pissed off former customers who have been told to go outside to smoke. Unfortunately the liquor board feels like they have to investigate every complaint, it's the laws that are homophobic, prudish, and aimed at "protecting" grown adults from grown adult things.

I have to give kudos to Savage, I have been trying to follow this story for awhile and am happy to see some guerilla activism being encouraged. Fuck this shit, let's take our goddamn bars back.
84
@56 - bullshit is right!
"a month or so ago I complained that people were getting high on the patio and the bouncer looked at me like I was crazy and did NOTHING"
get a fucking clue!! the staff can only do so much policing. most well adjusted adults have a difficult time telling other people how to behave, unless they're being unruly and obnoxious.
So, Kirby, what exactly IS it about The Eagle that draws you there? Hmmm?

@83 - you're absolutely right about where some of the complaints to LCB and SPD come from, from sissy bitches Kirby (#56)
85
I'm loving that Mayor Jowly campaign poster. Thanks so much.
86
I'm loving that Mayor Jowly campaign poster. It would make a great fridge magnet.
87
As a straight woman, I don't mind dicks in bars. I expect men to bring their dick into every bar they go into.
88
Firstly, great post. Secondly, nice dick, whose-ever it is! But, more importantly, this post gave me a good idea.

Here in Dayona Beach, Florida, a woman's right to expose her breasts in public in defiance of indecency laws has been affirmed legally. There have been protests where large numbers of woman expose themselves publically, and a court held that such "indecent" exposure is legal if, and only if, it is done in order to... protest indecent exposure laws.

So I'm thinking maybe 150, 200 guys in Washington standing on an overpass with their dicks out might be a nice legal test for the Northwest. Sure, you'll get arrested the first time, but think of the progress you'd be making for Penis Rights. It'd be a great photograph, anyway, for the paper.
89
I was at the Eagle last night and the music was great and I didn't see a single dick.
90
I personally am mortified to discover people are bringing their dicks with them into public places. I think all establishments should have a “penis check room” and that businesses should be allowed to selectively frisk visitors for hidden dicks…
91
@90: Didn't G.H.W.B. put his in a trust fund in 1980?
92
Dicks in Bars??!!

Oh shit. And here I was hoping to see a project to get a local, fresh fast food vendor installed in bars. Cuz sometimes you need a snack.

Oh.
93
Portland has dicks in bars. Thats what people want. Stop wasting money on LCB! Give us freedom!
94
Ass eating contests! Dicks in bars!

I'm sooooo moving to Portland!
95
There is a picture of a whole bunch of dicks (and pussies) from some nude event way back when that is hanging on the wall at the Rosebud.
96
@91, try as I may, I can’t seem to remember the status of George Sr.’s dick in 1980. I find this to be a relief…
97
I've had bigger. Nice though.
98
I believe that Trolls in bars have always been of a greater concern than Dicks. But please, no pictures.
99
Dear lord, a little dick is no big deal. Especially since there were hundreds of people teabagging last month.
100
Going to the Eagle and complaining about seeing dick is like going to Centerfolds and complaining about seeing poon.

Ridic(k)ulous.


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