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Shouldn't Dan Savage have a usage guide somewhere? It would be the same one with definitions for pegging, etc.

arts&letters on July 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Vulva indicates external female reproductive parts, i.e. labia and clitoris.

The vagina is internal.

motobourbon on July 16, 2009 at 4:17 PM

haha. Who drives a Volvo?

Anna Anna on July 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM

And what about boxes and cubes?

Eric Grandy on July 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM

jen, dahling! there's a big ol' blue public art piece or sculpture or something in front of that new building at 5th avenue and yesler way and i swear it looks like something out of transformers by way of claes oldenburg! or something. you must must must check it out sometime then skittle across the street to have lunch with moi. haven't seen you in YONKS!!!

scary tyler moore on July 16, 2009 at 4:41 PM

I think it's more like the relationship between "eyelid" and "eye".

hillside_hoyden on July 16, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Wouldn't the proper pluralization be "vulvae?"

(I started that as a joke question, but now I'm actually wondering.)

T on July 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Was Jen Graves (a woman, presumably) actually asking whether a vulva was a type of vagina??? Or the other way around? Because what the fuck.

Levislade on July 16, 2009 at 4:56 PM

No situation dealing with 30 vaginas is 100% heterosexual.

Lee on July 16, 2009 at 4:56 PM

#2 THANK YOU for knowing or Googling the correct answer. Always feel sorry for some straight guy's SO when he says the phrase "hot vagina" (hot to see, not hot temp". "She has a hot vagina." I'll say, how d'ya know? Speculum? Outside = vulva, inside = vagina. How hard is it?

Eva Hopkins on July 16, 2009 at 4:58 PM

1.816

Vince on July 16, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Okay, people. Enough. I'm the owner of these things, and many of you are not. It was a linguistic question having to do with categories and whether it's fair to call something that is vulvic vaginal. Which it is. Like it's fair to call a square rectangular. Sheesh.

Jen Graves on July 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM

@12 All installments of "Overheard in the Office" should come with a disclaimer: "You had to have been there."

Ackham on July 16, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Wa? All squares are rectangles. Not all vulvas are vaginas. In fact, none of them are.

on July 16, 2009 at 5:31 PM

YES ALL VULVAS ARE VAGINAL. THEY ARE VAGINA PARTS. THEY ARE, THEREFORE, VAGINAL. THEY ARE NOT VAGINAS AS IN YOU CAN FUCK THEM WITHOUT THE OTHER VAGINA PARTS. WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS. THE SQUARE-RECTANGLE COMPARISON WAS LOOSE AND IT WAS A QUESTION FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Jen Graves on July 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Paul, seriously? You got off on the sound of the word 'vulva'?

Somebody get this man a hooker.

Gomez on July 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM

What the fuck? None of the liberated ladies of the Stranger take care of this nice young stud?

Paul, send a complaint to the Office Civil of Rights ... all talk and no walk.

And to the really virile straight guys it is PUSSY, always, often, forever. Paul tell her you like her PUSSY. Want her PUSSY ... beating off at the Stranger for lack of PUSSY, well, well, well, the sham is over it seems.

Sexual Liberation Starts One Person At a Time

on July 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM

no #16, fatty Constant was thinking about eating 3 dozen more hot dogs

on July 16, 2009 at 6:03 PM

@15: Sure it was a question. I don't think it calls into question your ownership of and familiarity with these body parts.

Still, the attempt to make the relationship analogous to squares and rectangles (i.e., instance and category) is rather hilariously wrong.

Lee on July 16, 2009 at 6:04 PM

@16: That's what you got from this? Seriously?

Lee on July 16, 2009 at 6:14 PM

@15

The vulva is not a part of the vagina. It's a totally different part.

In related news, our public schools are squares, and total bullshit is rectangles.

Violet_DaGrinder on July 16, 2009 at 6:35 PM

I thought her name was MULVA.

COMTE on July 16, 2009 at 6:35 PM

PAUL IS HIS OWN BEARD.
EG. SLOG REMAINSS SO HOMO.

LaRiiiiM0RrrHAwtiiii696969 on July 16, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Paul Constant is straight?

crap bag on July 16, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Jen Graves is so getting a geometry textbook for Christmas.

Greg on July 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM

I NO RITE? PAULL CONSTANT IS FLUB THE GAY (LIK HAPPY GUYZ! GIT IT??) WHITE BOY.

LaRiiiiM0RrrHAwtiiii696969 on July 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Women have orgasms?!

(Stolen from Paul Ford. ftrain.com)

Amelia on July 16, 2009 at 10:18 PM

I'm going to guess Paul Constant has never seen either one -- at least in person.

on July 16, 2009 at 10:31 PM

@28 - A real journalist wouldn't guess, douche bag (had to throw it in for the sake of the vagina discussion. Yay!)

Sam on July 16, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Paul Constant for the win!

seandr on July 17, 2009 at 12:09 AM

What about the rhombus? The square/rhombus connection seems more relevant than square/rectangle. Seems like I remember "All squares are rhombuses (rhombi? rhombera? rhomboids?) but not all rhombuses are squares." Best wishes.

Timmytee on July 17, 2009 at 3:15 AM

@31: No, again, as has already been repeatedly pointed out, a vagina is not a type of vulva. No vagina is a vulva, and no vulva is a vagina. They are names for two different body parts, like "ear" and "toe," although they happen to be much more closely related. So, it makes no more sense to say that a vagina is a type of vulva than it does to say that an ear is a type of toe.

The apt analogy would be that vaginas are to genitals as squares are to rectangles. The square and rectangle relationship is one of type and category, and vaginas are a type of genital.

Ugh.

Lee on July 17, 2009 at 7:02 AM

@32 Thank you, thank you, thank you! I was totally coming in to make the Vagina : Genitals :: Square : Rectangle argument.

girlstyle on July 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM

All I have to say is this: About time.

Will in Seattle on July 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM

A vulva is vulval. Something resembling a vulva is vulviform. Vaginas are vaginal. Separate parts, separate categories. Ladies have one of each.

St. Beretta on July 17, 2009 at 5:46 PM

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