"But the federal government views marijuana as a harmful and addictive drug, he said. "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit,""
doesn't that contradict...everything studies have shown? i mean they can view it however they like but...studies have shown otherwise, haven't they?
recently moved from the puget sound to the sf bay- there's more people openly smoking joints on the streets than cigarettes, seriously, it smells like weed everywhere.
"Save Our Sierra", huh? Yeah, the feds were doing a great job of Saving Our Sierra when they leased National Forest land to logging companies. Hypocrisy on this level really, really sickens me.
So, I'm all for letting people get high, but the farming of marijuana has made areas of the national forests simply unsafe for those who are unarmed.
I've heard stories from hikers who have stumbled upon highly guarded marijuana farms, nestled deep in the wilderness. It is becoming increasingly difficult to policy, and the crazy water-diversion tactics are damaging sensitive ecosystems.
Maybe if pot were legalized, you could grow it on hydroponic farms, like they do tomatoes and basil, and then you wouldn't have crazy folks hiding out in the woods, armed to the teeth. (Though, to be fair, the same thing happens with meth labs, too.)
"A 1998 state law allows debilitated and terminally ill patients to use medical marijuana, but gives police departments wide latitude in whether to make an arrest.
Despite that, Holcomb said Kerlikowske's officers have "demonstrated compassion" in not arresting known growers and users in medical marijuana cases.
She also said his officers are respectful and tolerant when they patrol Hempfest, the city's annual celebration of drug-law reforms.
Seattle City Councilman Nick Licata, a former chairman of the Public Safety Committee, said Kerlikowske would be an ideal drug czar.
"He is sort of a logical choice because he's someone who has been a police chief in a very progressive city, and he has seen how these approaches worked, and he's allowed them to mature," Licata said.
He added: "He's not on a platform arguing for decriminalization of drugs or radical drug reform measures.""
If marijuana is really dangerous and without medicinal benefit, shouldn't doctors who prescribe it be stripped of their licenses and prosecuted for malpractice? They do sign the medical marijuana certificates.
If the shit were LEGAL, there'd be no need for illegal grow ops in Federal forests, you fucking idiot! Marijuana's medical benefits are WIDELY known and documented.
Follow the money. There's powerful people wanting to keep things the way they are. Pharm companies, the prison industrial complex. Feds will support the policies of the people WE put in office.
Dammit, the old order's holding on by their teeth.
if marijuana has no medicinal benefit, why does my optometrist tell me that pot temporarily relieves the pressure in the eyeball brought on my open-angle glaucoma?
Obviously the new drug czar has not read Ryan Grim's excellent book "This is your country on drugs" which vividly explains why our drug enforcement policies, backfire and fail miserably. It's cheaper and safer to legalize pot than to eradicate it's use.
"The ice cream man can deliver crack. That doesn't mean ice-cream should be considered dangerous."
True story: when I was in high school (Wash DC), one of my friends got a job driving one of those ice cream trucks. A few days after he got the job he began dealing (pot and acid) along with the popsicles and ice-cream sandwiches and began a regular route at local high schools.
He was raking it in so much that he recruited others to join him and for one glorious spring they had pretty much every high school in northern VA and suburban Maryland covered.
seattle druggo's would sell their mother's walking stick for cheap bud. they don't care if its made by MS13 or Ralston-Purina so long as they can 'medicate' themselves for lowest possible cost.
I wonder if the people of SOS realize that if marijuana was legalized, there wouldn't be any illegal farming on U.S. forest land. People would simply buy it from the store!
I wish these idiots would back the fuck off on this whole "pot is addictive" bullshit. I know all about "addictive." I could write the fucking book on "addictive." And pot is not addictive. Habit-forming? Sure, I'll give you that, but "addictive" is a whole different animal.
i'm all for legalization of pot.
but fucking growers don't have a "right" to take over forests to grow their crop. they don't "need" to use that land. that shit is ridiculous. they poison the land, steal water from nature, hurt native plants and animals, and run innocent hikers off with guns, dogs whatever. it is evil.
i don't care if the illegality of pot "causes" this kind of grow op, it is still plain old wrong. two wrongs don't make a right.
yeah, and the govt is a total hypocrite - selling off public land to loggers. that is wrong too. three wrongs don't make a right.
Holy shit gnossos, I think that truck's still running the streets here. My friend and I always see this random ice cream truck late at night (like 10, 11 PM, way after kiddie-time), and even sometimes in the winter. Eastern Market is a fave neighborhood for it, which, if you've kept abreast of what DC is like these days, you know is now Yuppieville. Yay pot-smoking yuppies!
For all of you who doubt the czar's statement, I suggest renting 'Reefer Madness'! Try to not get the RiffTrax version, it detracts from the seriousness of the subject!
Legalization's been something that will have to happen on the state level, not the federal level, for... well, for as long as it's been a notion at all. It's just not politically feasible on a national level, all at once. Anti-drug propaganda is just too deeply entrenched in the national consciousness.
Well of course they're not talking about legalization on a federal level. That's going to take at least 20 years.
Right now, the medical marijuana community in California is setting a sales tax at the collectives. Not only that, but medical growing operations are subjected to numerous taxes as well. The government is working on a "show me the money" basis. Once they see the bottom line, they'll be motivated to legalize across the board. But, make no mistake, this is going to be a long fight for those who are pushing for legalization just in California alone.
They grow on federal lands because of property seizure laws. They can take your property, and not even charge you with a crime. So why would growers risk growing on land that doesn't already belong to the govt?
If EVERYONE who believes marijuana (and hemp) should be legalized spoke out to their governmental represenatives, pot would be legalized sooner than it will if they just prattle on about it on web sites like this.
Personally, I give regularly to Marijuana Policy Project - an organization working diligently to reform marijuana laws (and no, I am not affiliated with them).
Look, if all the Western states - Cali, Oregon, Washington - all defund any federal cooperation on the War on Drugs until they decriminalize MJ, it will happen.
The government views marijuana as dagerous and addictive.
So is tobacco and alcohol, but that we sell by the train load. Makes zero sense to me unless you want to argue that prohibiton doesn't work.
I don't like genetically modified foods, but if someone could genetically modify some common, pervasive weed species to produce THC, it might be an excellent idea. Once THC became easily obtainable and undetectable by eyesight in a normal plant, there would be an instant end to prohibition.
So great to know that people who litter or pollute can get a slap on the wrist or a subsidy (respectively), but if I get busted with my stash I could get a night in a cell. And I'm actually contributing to the economy.
doesn't that contradict...everything studies have shown? i mean they can view it however they like but...studies have shown otherwise, haven't they?
Of course. Fresno.
Hawaii? How would Maui like to have its favorite cash crop back? The mainland would like to ask you a favor.
What state should pick up the torch on this?
I've heard stories from hikers who have stumbled upon highly guarded marijuana farms, nestled deep in the wilderness. It is becoming increasingly difficult to policy, and the crazy water-diversion tactics are damaging sensitive ecosystems.
Maybe if pot were legalized, you could grow it on hydroponic farms, like they do tomatoes and basil, and then you wouldn't have crazy folks hiding out in the woods, armed to the teeth. (Though, to be fair, the same thing happens with meth labs, too.)
As for Kerlikowske and pot when he was Chief, this is the best I could find:
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/399760_ke…
"A 1998 state law allows debilitated and terminally ill patients to use medical marijuana, but gives police departments wide latitude in whether to make an arrest.
Despite that, Holcomb said Kerlikowske's officers have "demonstrated compassion" in not arresting known growers and users in medical marijuana cases.
She also said his officers are respectful and tolerant when they patrol Hempfest, the city's annual celebration of drug-law reforms.
Seattle City Councilman Nick Licata, a former chairman of the Public Safety Committee, said Kerlikowske would be an ideal drug czar.
"He is sort of a logical choice because he's someone who has been a police chief in a very progressive city, and he has seen how these approaches worked, and he's allowed them to mature," Licata said.
He added: "He's not on a platform arguing for decriminalization of drugs or radical drug reform measures.""
Follow the money. There's powerful people wanting to keep things the way they are. Pharm companies, the prison industrial complex. Feds will support the policies of the people WE put in office.
Dammit, the old order's holding on by their teeth.
Like Eastern Washington would ever let that happen.
The ice cream man can deliver crack. That doesn't mean ice-cream should be considered dangerous.
What you just did there? That's called the "gateway drug" argument. It doesn't work.
True story: when I was in high school (Wash DC), one of my friends got a job driving one of those ice cream trucks. A few days after he got the job he began dealing (pot and acid) along with the popsicles and ice-cream sandwiches and began a regular route at local high schools.
He was raking it in so much that he recruited others to join him and for one glorious spring they had pretty much every high school in northern VA and suburban Maryland covered.
It's the perfect cover while it lasts.
Lazy...and stupid...
Good point!
I'll have my people start rounding them up.
but
I read the paper every morning and say-
"hey! I thought my guy lost but evidently not..."
but fucking growers don't have a "right" to take over forests to grow their crop. they don't "need" to use that land. that shit is ridiculous. they poison the land, steal water from nature, hurt native plants and animals, and run innocent hikers off with guns, dogs whatever. it is evil.
i don't care if the illegality of pot "causes" this kind of grow op, it is still plain old wrong. two wrongs don't make a right.
yeah, and the govt is a total hypocrite - selling off public land to loggers. that is wrong too. three wrongs don't make a right.
Some fucking 'change', Barack.
Bold face fucking lie from a coward. Fuck you Gil.
There is not one recorded case of anyone ever overdosing on marijuana, because its not even physiologically possible.
And what is the number one overdose method you ask: legal prescription pain killers.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/th…
Right now, the medical marijuana community in California is setting a sales tax at the collectives. Not only that, but medical growing operations are subjected to numerous taxes as well. The government is working on a "show me the money" basis. Once they see the bottom line, they'll be motivated to legalize across the board. But, make no mistake, this is going to be a long fight for those who are pushing for legalization just in California alone.
If EVERYONE who believes marijuana (and hemp) should be legalized spoke out to their governmental represenatives, pot would be legalized sooner than it will if they just prattle on about it on web sites like this.
Personally, I give regularly to Marijuana Policy Project - an organization working diligently to reform marijuana laws (and no, I am not affiliated with them).
We're 40 percent of the US GDP.
Without our help they got NOTHING.
So is tobacco and alcohol, but that we sell by the train load. Makes zero sense to me unless you want to argue that prohibiton doesn't work.