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Beating the shit out of someone in broad daylight?
Complaining about being beaten and robbed?
trouble makers like you will have to leave...
This video will be seen all over the globe and even if Seattle Hipsters are too jaded to care the rest of Mankind will be sickened and outraged...
Plus, what a great strategy on the party of Metro Transit to basically tell everyone that they can get away with whatever they want to, even if there's a security guard right there (they "observe and report", they don't "get involved").
Sounds like a couple of future baby mamas going at it; I rimagine down oin the ghetto people pay to watch this shit. Hell, these ain't Wallingford 'hos.
I wouldn't have lifted a finger either. I mean shit, who wants the NAACP and ACLU on your ass for harming one of these beeeeatches while trying to pry them apart. Touch one of them and Sloggers will be screaming about 'social justice'. So you know what, fuck 'em, let them solve their own problems. THey don't need cops.
Would you try to break up a pit bull fight. Just more of the trash you see around Westlake every day.
Just keep this ghetto shit where it belongs, in the ghetto.
I have to agree with most of that.
However, the victim DID ask security to help and they need to help. Its their job.
This city needs to grow a pair and take out the trash.
And no, I'm not talking tough on the internet. I'm certain that group of kids could have taken me down: I have no illusions about that. But you don't just stand there and let those kinds of assholes win without a fight. No one intervenes because "it's not my problem," of course, but in the end this means that no one will intervene when it is your problem, when you're the one being randomly assaulted.
Seeing a bus station full of people just stand around aghast when something like this happens almost makes me want to randomly assault someone myself. Chances are that person will be an asshole who deserves it.
Or better yet, WiS.
of course you wouldn't help. you're a coward. not that I'm defending anyone else there at the time, but seriously man. we get that you're scared shitless of your shadow. its black after all right?
.....and the generalizations, assumptions, stereotypes & easy labels continue.
People who speak in absolutes have nothing new to contribute. At least, that's been my experience since age 6.
I bet Mr. Smith will defend himself my 'attack' w/ more generalizations, assumptions, stereotypes & easy labels. Countdown in 3.... 2....
Subject: Transit station attack/Suggesting a name change
Hey, I was thinking, in this ever-complicating era of small business marketing, it's more important that ever to make sure that a company be more specific about the services they provide. Just to dispel any confusion that might arise.
For example, I've noticed the Olympic Securty Services doesn't really provide what one would traditionally call "security" to their clients, or the patrons of said clients. That is to say, when somebody is, say, being savagely beaten in full view of three of your employees, those employees are not moved in the least to provide a safe haven, or protect the victim, or alert armed authorities to assist the victims -- small measures often associated with the concept of "security." I've consulted a thesaurus to confirm this.
However, you do provide the absolutely invaluable service of "observing and reporting" events, such as brutal attacks on teenage girls with heart conditions.
I don't know about you, but it certainly gives me a lot of internal comfort that if, God forbid, my 5-year-old daughter were savagely beaten by ruffians in the Metro Transit Tunnel, that the employees at your firm would stand at the ready, fully prepared to watch the attack and then tell someone about it. Really, abstention and refusal to get involved are such -- well, not so much "underrated" skills associated with security, so much as "usually overlooked."
Given the need to refine and be exact about job descriptions in this tech-savvy day and age, I thought you should change the name of your company to "Olympic Observation & Reporting Services." Or you may just want to change your proper name altogether to give your new business direction a fresh start, maybe something that can easily be transformed into an acronym. Something like "Affiliated Security Services / Hoverer's Observation Limited Enterprises."
Just a consideration. Think about it. It's a terrifying, dangerous world, and we dearly need more professional firms like yours to stand around and look at it before forcing the victims to leave.
One video does not tell the complete story. One victim's account does not tell the complete story.
I am not defending these guys. I am not defending these guys. I am not defending these guys. I am not defending these guys
loose your job? You would have been charged and tried in court and faced jail time. PLus the NAACP would be calling you a racist.
So no, let the little beeeeatches and hos fight it out. Down in the ghetto this is entertainment, like watching 'The First 48', America's favorite black comedy show.
Talk about coddled and swaddled.
Getting your posse together to terrorize a person who's alone is not okay, even if they did slash your tires. "Pick on someone your own size," as the saying goes. And, yes, you intervene when you can, because you are a human being, and you play by the rules by which you expect others to play. Even if they don't.
And yes, I know you're not defending anyone.
Are u kidding? Seattle is very safe, as Fnarf has pointed out. Safe the same way Portland and Austin are and all three are filled with guilty white liberals and hardly any blacks. No connection, of course, I'm just saying.
Now, back to "The First 48", America's favorite black urban comedy.
Thank God for the Ship Canal. Let's us northsiders be liberal yet never have to deal with the reality of the south side.
Nope. No crime.
But still, my point was that the guys from this company saw this happening, saw how brutal it was, and stood around and watched. I'm sure there are liability issues they'd bring up, and maybe legalistically that's where they're coming from. It's still wrong.
Ha ha ha....sorry dude, anything above 85th doesn't count. Trailer trash and bandito country. Great White Nortth runs from the SHip Canal to 85th. Up here the blackest we get is Obama bumper stickers and cute adopted Haitian kids.
oh yeah, I'm white and I live in South Park.
Blame Metro, they were following policy set by King County.
"I'm sure there are liability issues"
You mean when the NAACP and ACLU sue you for violating the little hos 'social justice'?
Of course it isn't, just disproportionally so.
Great, a guy named Pol Pot is offended. Couldn't find any other mass murderers to identify with?
Any chance they are from Wallingford? Should I be worried?
you're right. I should spend less time going about my daily routine and more time bringing it to the attention of random black people that they commit more than 13% of the crime in this country. whoops... I've wasted my life.
As for the criminal charges, the young thugett in question should be charged with attempted murder and her fellow thuggies should be charged with facilitating attempted murder. The video makes this obvious. Also, the whole situation begs the question; did any of the security personnel know these thugs? The thugs seemed very comfortable attacking the girl right in front of the “security guards” as if they knew they would not intervene.
Is she the tattooed midget in there?
What a stupid woman. It is unfrotunate that she decided to have children. They were not all wrong. They girl who was attacked was not wrong. She said bad things on MySpace. Too bad. Sticks and stones. If people like her would raise thier vile children to not get so upset about such things this would not have happend. Sounds like she should be sued for raising her child wrong.
Thank you for making my day just a little bit better.
45/curtisp: As for the criminal charges, the young thugett in question should be charged with attempted murder and her fellow thuggies should be charged with facilitating attempted murder.
Daysha, the thug girl who was kicking her in the head, should definitely be charged with assault. That wasn't just some bitch-slapping. It was pretty brutal.
What I find interesting about this thread is that there are more people bashing the security guards than the thugs. Yeah, it would have been great if the guards had done something to protect Aiesha from the thugs but they weren't the criminals and the assholes. Daysha, LaTroy, Tyrone Watson and Dominique were.
What happens if someone comes after you down there? There's no where to run, except up the stairs, which is a great situation in a flight scenario. At least on the street there might be other people around. You could scream for help, flag down a passing car, maybe even a police car.
People are weird.
So, yes, the thugs may be lower in the food chain, and they may be the bigger assholes, but the security guards let us down, while the thugs lived up to everyone's expectations.
YOUR URB IS AN ABATTOIR!
No they didn't, they followed the direct and clear policies of King County Metro under Chairman Dow. Want to blame anyone, blame the bureaucrats at Metro, King County and the Chairman who are responsible for this policy. Don't blame the guys making minimum wage just following instructions. Had they grabbed these fighting hos, and a brawl ensued, you and the NAACP would be tearing them new assholes screaming about brutality and social justice.
More likely, had they intervened and hurt one of the thugs in the process, the parents of the thugs would have sued Olympic (and won) for its employees violating the "observe and report" part of the contract with Metro. That's probably why "observe and report" is in the contract in the first place: fear of a lawsuit.
I agree. According to a KING5 news report, the thug girl's mother said "She's a good person, loving sister and daughter. She has a good heart but unfortunately things happen." Sorry, but repeatedly kicking another girl in the head is not a "things happen" moment.
The news report also says that thug girl is going to be charged with "first degree robbery, which is a combination charge of assault and robbery."
Sure, anything's a possibility. I think it's more likely that the thugs were fully aware that security guards were forbidden from doing anything besides observing and reporting (thugs aren't stupid just because they're thugs) and they took advantage of that.
annnnnd I rest my case!
"...I saw the same two officers and I am trying to get their attention and told them the kids were following us. They were telling me that they had seen me hanging around the area and that I just needed to leave. I told them I couldn't because the kids were following me. I asked them to take me to the tunnel and they said they couldn't because they didn't have time for kids who started trouble."
After the attack, the same police officers came into the tunnel (possibly called by the security guards) and the victim started yelling at them angrily "telling them stuff like did you see what they did to me?... I told them that the group was outside McDonalds... They told me to leave the tunnel and were escorting me out. As I leave the tunnel they just stood in front of the tunnel and didn't even help me get to a safe environment. They just wanted me to leave."
A bit later, after her mom arrived: "My mom was going off on them and they were explaining that there were always fights down here and they can't monitor them all. They were saying that I had so many opportunities to leave the area but I had told them that I was trying to leave and was trying to catch my bus. They told my mom that they were tired of all these kids downtown causing trouble."
If true, there are a couple of cops who should not be working with the public there.
10 years from now, when their records will have been expunged, everybody will still know. Thanks, in a backhanded way, for your service to the public.
See how good privatization works! Instead of having well paid officers with benefits, you hire rent-a-cops for minimum wage, paying the corporation who employs them much more, and you get this garbage. See privatization, as pushed by the GOP, really works!
what is racist here?
a lot of it is certainly crude and rude; perhaps awkward and definitley not Liberal PC but what of it is actually 'racist'?
This is a serious question and not an attempt to be an asshole.
of course the thugs were the culprits but we do expect more from professional (which is to say, people getting paid for the job...) security officers and it is ludicrous to pretend that, regardless of 'policy', their behavior was remotely acceptable.
I'm no lawyer (and, unfortunately, I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night...) but there is a legal phrase "depraved indifference" and to these lay eyes there seemed to be a lot of that on display.
I would love to see someone get creative and find a way to charge those worthless sacks of s... in yellow vests with something.
well you certainly cut through the clutter to the crux of the matter-
it is the Republicans fault!
there really is nothing, from the weather to street crime in their neighborhoods to the STDs they give each other that Liberals can't blame on the GOP...
now, let's not get all uppity with the Slog-
The Stranger crew never claimed to have any Journalistic Standards...
(and, if there's any justice, perhaps 10 years from now all these monster thugs will be long dead and gone- )
#1, if Sound Transit's policy is that security guards may only "observe and report", then, yeah, let's replace them all with security cameras and save a whole lot of money.
#2, if the SPD can't be bothered to escort a minor to a bus or train when she's being threatened with assault, then, yeah, let's revert to vigilantism, and save a whole lot of money.
(Don't you just love how the SPD said they "didn't have time" to escort this kid to a bus, but they still manage to make three custodial arrests when busting up nerf-ball mini-golf tournaments on Capitol Hill?)
And I'm sure that there are no republicans that live in shitty neighborhoods, are criminals or victims of crime, or contract stis. None.
I told the assailant that she had to leave and that she didn't want keep this up because it would end badly. She shrugged and turned away for a few steps. But then she doubled back around me, yelling at the victim. I stepped in again and now I shouted at her, repeatedly, "leave now, I'm calling 911". This girl was totally pumped up and shouted at me to get out of her face but I never stopped. She looked around and then left.
I'm about 4'9" so I am absolutely no physical threat to anyone.
It turned out that the victim was a newly enrolled student and the other girl didn't even go to RHS (hence the confused looks from students thinking "who are these girls?".
I had so many people tell me how brave I was. I just kept saying, "But we're the adults. We're supposed to break up fights or at least tell the kids to stop." I honestly just wanted them to stop.
In the case here, I likely wouldn't have tried to physically intervene but I would have screamed like a banshee. I saw the video and started shouting at the screen so I know I could not have stood by. What broke my heart is all the bystanders afterwards just looked down at this girl. Could no one offer this girl some comfort or aid?
The tunnel was supposed to be enforced by SPD, but Sound Transit awarded the contract to King County Sheriffs. This has inflamed an on going pissing contest between SPD and KCS . I remember when SPD used to patrol and respond to security incidents on Metro. They were quite prompt. Once KCS took over, SPD would respond so slowly. In fact, response is even worse by KCS because SPD won't do it if they know there is one KCS in the area. Of course KCS seems to be more concerned with trying to bust drug dealers on Seattle streets and pushing over cyclists then actually doing their job: patrolling transit.
As for the guards, they are still responsible for calling for help. Same as a Metro driver.
Anyway, that was all it took. Is that really so hard???
What, with the other 98% of the people there who are white?
ST DOES NOT have full control over the tunnel. It is shared with Metro. ST must ask permission to access the tunnel. This may change in the future, but right now since both buses and light rail use the tunnel, it is shared with metro apparently having more control.
Not sure about the KCS and SPD dispute, but I think ST awarded KCS the security for the LIGHT RAIL which is different than the tunnel (even though there is some overlap). This last comment is speculation, so don't take that to the bank.
Wow, and I thought Seattle was a forward-thinking place. Nice to see its racist underbelly all out in the open. Yikes.
How the hell do you quote someone who spells "lose" correctly then immediately spell it wrong in your own post?