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What a pathetic worthless piece of fuck country.
Can we please build that wall ... with no gates ... and be done with them?
And, is it just me or is that surviving infant going to grow up to be Charles Bronson reincarnated?
@1, most parts of Mexico are nicer in most ways than most parts of the United States.
(sigh) "Mexico still has a lower murder rate than the US, and a much, much, much lower rate of other crime."
Uh, no. Someone who'd make such a fantastically inaccurate and ignorant statement i would hope not be taken seriously in future discussions involving anything with grownups, but sadly i know better since i read the comments on slog.
Anyhoo, per capita, Mexico averages more murders in a month than the US does in a year. It's a sad thing and innocent bystanders down there are suffering.
"most parts of Mexico are nicer in most ways than most parts of the United States."
Yes einstein- and thats why illegal american immigrants is such a big problem for mexico.
People are risking life and limb to get out of mexico and into america because mexico is just too nice. Their slummin' it.
WHAT THE FUCK PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON?
Hopefully the insanely violent drug war happening down south will spread up hear soon and your dumbass will find out how much nicer it is.
There's only one flaw in your plan, @1. With no gates in that wall, how are we supposed to get our cocaine and cheap labor?
@Fnarf:
i am willing to help smuggle you acrossed the border to this lovely country if you like:
"The murder rate in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico has become the highest in the world. There were an average of seven killings every day for the past twelve months in the city, which is currently in the midst of a clash between two powerful drug cartels."
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Ciudad_Juare…
Ha
ha
ha.
Such violence easily committed against others, with children in front of them. How can anyone have the stomach for this? How scarred are these children going to be for life? It makes me tear up just thinking about it.
Murder rate Mexico, 2004: 13.04
Murder rate USA, 2004: 5.62
Total crime rate Mexico 2004: 1503.71
Total crime rate USA 2004: 4118.76
The main difference seems to be in theft (112.47 vs 2445.80). That sort of difference is so staggering, it's hard for me to believe. Is there no theft in Mexico because people don't have much, or is there no theft in Mexico because people don't bother to report it?
1. I'm sure President Obama is outraged enough to take care of the problem of illegal drug cartels by legalizing non-harmful drugs in the US, thereby cutting off their incentive to exist.
2. Calrols Slim should be able to afford private security for almost everyone in the country.
Yeah, it's crazy...
However, if Dan wants to do a little actual dot connecting let's point out that the killers of these and tens of thousands of other innocent Mexicans are employees of every hipster who tokes a joint or sniffs a little joy up his nose.
Hipster buys his drugs from the dude who buys the drugs from the guy who gets them from his source that hires the animals who do the killing.
The killers probably have a few Seattle twenty dollar bills in their pockets even now.
Now we're not talking about some vague 'moral equivalence' bullshit- this is a direct line of financial transactions- drug users pay the drug gangs to supply them, whatever the cost.
Just think of the injured 4 and 7 year olds as part of the cost of doing business next time you light up.
Of course (provided he isn't still too stoned...) Dan will be on later this morning braying about how legalization will end all the problems and Mexican drug gangs would then start ranching pink ponies for a living but that is just empty meaningless rationalization.
The FACT is that drug use is ILLEGAL.
Those laws can be changed if proponents of legalization work hard enough and convince their fellow citizens.
But at present drug use IS ILLEGAL.
And those who choose to break the law and employ the products and services of illegal drug trafficers all DIRECTLY are responsible for the Murder and Mayhem.
Of course, Dan will whine that hipsters don't have to obey antidrug laws because they are stupid and totally not cool.
Sorry.
We all have to obey the laws, even the ones we disagree with.
Otherwise it gets messy.....
By Dan's "reasoning" abortion opponents who believe abortion is murder are fully justified, even morally obligated, to kill all abortion providers.
By Dan's "reasoning" people who believe homosexuality is perverted deviancy that will corrupt and harm children are fully justified, even morally obligated, to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to keep homosexuals from adopting children or teaching their fithly disgusting lifestyle to school kids.
If Everybody decides they get to pick and choose which laws they will obey people might get hurt.
Not just murdered victims of the gangs hipaster illegal drug users hire.
It could get messy.
Illegal activity = Death
Will the DEA and other parts of our government now get more actively involved, I wonder? With or without the cooperation of the Mexican government? This would likely mean an invasion if it happened in almost any other country.
Those murders happened because drugs are illegal in the US yet we still keep getting high and we are willing to buy drugs with blood on em.
Legalize legalize legalize.
And dammit, the cliche here works. Think of those children. Those poor children in the cars.
at least the kid is too young to remember the killing. but those other kids? holy shit.
and to think this has already happened to many other Mexican children already. enough.
If gringos stopped buying cocaine, heroin, and any marijuana not grown in the U.S. or Canada, this would all stop on a dime. (I realize that's not going to happen but worth noting for readers' personal guidance and karma.)
Mexico City is a safer city to live in than San Francisco.
And visitors to any of these places, including Juarez, are going to find that the 1,000 most objectionable people they meet will be Americans, or possibly Italians, not Mexicans. Even in Juarez, travelers are entirely unmolested.
And do any of you right-wing-nut-jobs have any clue of what's been going on there? I mean, this isn't really news, as the situation in Juarez has been going on for over ten years now. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone w/ clues and an interest in learning about your world.
But judging from the ignorant posts here, I would guess not. It's not worth it to refute the ludicrous assumptions here on Slog, but just so you know, this subject has been reported on quite extensively. The fun thing to know is that the American cops and the cartels are on the same side-- they both want to keep pot illegal.
Ignoramus, one dangerous city does not an entire country make.
If we quit buying illegal drugs, their drug war would eventually end as well, as well.
I'm appalled by what's going on in Juarez and other Mexican towns. That doesn't mean I can't go to Mexico and enjoy it. The two aren't mutually exclusive. And there's an argument to be made that going to Mexico and patronizing small businesses and mom and pop establishments is a very effective way to help out regular Mexicans. Keeping your tourist dollars out of Mexico certainly isn't going to help.
And how the commenters managed to turn this serious issue into a conversation about hipsters is fucking pathetic. Do you all just live in a bubble where all real life events get filtered through some pop culture reference point?