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...I feel like the media should have stayed out of Georgia, as a pat on the back. The kid can get offers and whatnot, but people should have taken the school's actions in more stride.
I hope that kid is past his dad's class...
The actions of his classmates are without compassion but are not surprising. Just so very sad.
How odd that the town is teabaggishly mad the media's looking too closely. One suspects they whisper among themselves how all the reporters look totally Jewish, at least the ones that aren't b-l-a-c-k.
Yeah, before that protest, I was confused by the media attention, and thought that EVERYONE in Cochran was gay. Thanks protesters for clearing that up for me.
Idiot. Sounds jealous of Derrick's boyfriend.
Shame on his parents, especially the dad. My 80+ maths teacher grandfather should (and still can- go Gramps!) kick his arse for sullying the good name of his profession and for being a lousy parent.
Bottom line is, where is he? Is he safe? Does he have understanding and protective adults he can go to about this? Is there a chapter of PFLAG in that part of the country that can reach out to him and help him?
Can Seattle help in some way? We have a compassionate community here...surely we can reach out to him!!
They're the worst assholes of all.
In the case of Derrick, where they reversed the decision, had the board not tried to ban his choice of date based on sexual orientation this never would have become a news item.
It is the banning and not the bringing of same sex dates to prom that is causing the media attention.
These people should get a life and let these brave (and intelligent) young people get on with theirs.
I don't understand how these stories are started...it seems like they should come up AFTER the prom where the scaredy cat heteros run from the room in horror holding their asses closed...gasping for breath in the bosom of their thrice divorced mommys..."Mommy mommy! A boy danced with a boy!! I'm afraid!"
Hold the goddamn prom.
Keep it open for everybody.
If people run out, afraid fo Teh Gayz, so be it.
Let *them* sue (on whatever grounds) and see how far they get.
I'll bet this approach gets you a whole lot less media attention than what's happening in these two instances.
BTW, the most flaming kid at my niece's high school in eastern (redneck) San Diego County was also the most popular.
The layers of bullshit and tormenting an out-gay teenager has to endure are ten-fold that of even the nerdiest or fattest of straight students.
I get distracted easily...
An 18 year old is not a child.
However, I did not attend my school prom and 1/2 the senior class knew I was gay due to some blabbering bitch by the end of the year. I did an exchange program the summer before my senior year and came back very estranged from most of the people in my senior class in Charleston, SC. In fact, as soon as I came back home after coming back from Asia, I knew I was done with South Carolina. People say HS prom is the highlight of their HS life. No a summer on my own away from my home town and home state discovering myself was the highlight of my years in HS. Would've I gone to my prom with a guy? I don't know. All I knew was that I was sick of HS by then and wanted to get the fuck away from SC ASAP then.
Btw, is it me or is Martin on his way to getting much hotter as he gets into his 20s? like that intelligent gay math nerd-type of hotness?
(Snarry is the OTP)
Anyway, Snape is dead. D-E-A-D. Reconcile yourself to this fact, and do not demean the memory of the late Potions Master by staging fictional resurrections. NG is the only viable fic option for a purist who reads the canon as God Herself intended it to be read.
Sorry to get off topic on this thread. Derrick is the one who matters. But I couldn't resist the gauntlet thrown by a fellow traveller in Slashdom!
Ask any psychologist or neurologist and they will tell you that an 18-year-old is mentally very much an adolescent; we are not fully adults until our early- to mid-20s.
@33: Urgutha, you are shitting me.
UPDATE: No you aren't! HAXX!!!!!!
@9 Come on, most teens are just drama queens who don't really have it that bad.
I'd be okay with him being a cute ginger too
reap what you sow, lie in your grave, ect ect.
/liberal tears
//they fuel me
WTF is that?
So you're saying a USA where Derrick Martin can take that *dreamy* blonde boy is a third world country? Oooooookay.
I don't want the government controlling my life - nor do I see any connection between that & these anti-gay-prom-kids protesting, which they are free to do - but I do want the government to ensure that schools remain places where young ppl are treated fairly, decently AND EQUALLY, regardless of race/creed/orientation, etc. ALL schools, including those in Blakely, GA & Itawamba County, Mississippi.
*Sorry if this appears as a double post. I mistyped my email during registration, thus had to re-register. Argh!
Though I guess a country where he could just "take him" ain't on your list of fave places either..;)
@ 56: <3!
Censure, damn it censure that is the word that you are looking for, not censor.
English, do you speak it?
Of course, the School Board is making decisions, when it is the kids affected....the majority of which are 18 (if it is a Senior Prom). Let them VOTE on it.
Just like the Military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Let there be a military only vote, by those who are serving and those who served. I bet the Mainstream Media or the left wouldn't like those results either.
The thing is, the majority of America could care less. It is when you shove beliefs down our throats that we get tired of it. I don't want my son seeing men with men or women with women, because that is against my beliefs. I do however respect others rights to be themselves, but there is no need to drag it all out in the open and force others to watch (as some type of freak show).
What's next, legalized bestiality?
a couple of seconds on Google would inform you that our hero is over the age of majority.
if 'adults' decide to tell their parents to fuck off about strongly held moral issues they really shouldn't be surprised if the parents lose some of the warm and fuzzies about being an ATM machine to fund the 'lifestyle'.
because, if you're so allmighty fucking enlightened now son you sure don't want to soil yourself living in this den of ignorant bigotry or eating our foul hateful grub or spending our filthy narrowminded money on gas and tuition....
in liberal la-la land we guess you're doing good if people are 'adults' by the time they hit their thirties, which is handy as it provides a nice long transition time to shift from mooching off parents to mooching off the government...
Derrick and any other high school student should be able to attend their prom. Don't hate because he has been asked to appear on the Ellen show. Are you jealous because you have not been asked?
OTOH, he is eighteen, so they're not doing anything illegal.
Eighteen isn't a kid anymore, if you have the right to have sex, vote, drive, and sign contracts; then you aren't a kid. If you don't want those rights until you're mid-twenties, then take it up with the lawmakers. Minds change throughout adulthood as well as childhood, to say people are only adult when their minds/brains stop changing means that the only adult people are the dead ones. You also don't automatically stop hurting if your parents reject you when you're in your mid-twenties.
I find it interesting that the parents who decry their own or other children in general as "moochers," are often bad parents themselves. Either you've raised your children rotten by giving them everything they asked for or you've withheld all that you reasonably could because you view them as some kind of parasite. Why do you assume that this young man is a pernicious drain on his parents? For all you know, he has a job, buys his personal wants and only asks his parents to provide his needs. Let's say he does sit around and do nothing.
And if you don't have children, then your argument rings hollow.
Regardless, it's foolish to focus on money when you obviously do not understand parenting. What loving parent would kick a child out of their home, regardless of whether that child has a place to go or not, effectively ending a relationship that should be considered a precious and short gift?
Well said. It's one thing to withhold luxuries from your children or insist they find employment by a certain age, if your goal is to teach them the value of money. It's quite another to deny them affection or moral support. The Martins have shown they value appearances over their son's happiness.
By your rationalization, Harry Truman never should have integrated the U.S. military, blacks should still be subject to "Jim Crow" laws, and women shouldn't be able to vote.
At issue is whether ALL individuals should be considered equal members of the public, entitled to all rights and responsibilities that others are.
As for your, "What's next, legalized bestiality?"... (Why, is that what you're hoping for, so you and your donkey can get married?) I fail to see any relevance to your stupid question. Being gay isn't illegal, and despite my feelings otherwise, neither is holding a prom.
@61: If you don't want your son to see two people of the same gender holding hands, cover his eyes, ya fuckin' nitwit. Now if you're talking about over-the-top, hands-in-pants PDA, then that's not cool whether it's homos or heteros (or bisexuals); there's exhibitionism, and then there's indecency.
You do not own public areas any more than the gay people that you are so terrified of your son seeing do; they belong to the people, and YOU have no right to exclude others from the right to express themselves in public.
In conclusion: shut the fuck up, you fascist.
He is 18 now, an adult, and legally responsible for himself.
He has gone out of his way to, in the MOST PUBLIC attention gathering way possible, TOTALLY reject core moral values deeply held by his parents (effectively ending a relationship that should be considered a precious and short gift?).
He is fully within his rights to do so.
His parents respect and respond to his adamantly asserted independence and Slog thinks they are evil terrible people?
Oh wait, in a lot of the South it is.
And also, you're misquoting Willy the Shake. The correct line is "Lord, what fools these mortals be!" Bad Alleged, BAD!
Actually, they have shown the complete opposite.
They could not, like their son, have failed to learn the lesson from Constance's saga;
that there would be an outpouring of support for the homosexual position,
that if they also were totally supportive no matter what or who their kid wants to fuck they would be hailed as enlightened progressive cool parents,
that if they expressed anything short of unquestioning support they would be labeled ignorant bigoted haters.
No, if they valued appearances they would have jumped on board the homoliberal bandwagon.
On the other hand, if they cared about their son's happiness (and not just riding the intoxicating wave of PC fashion of the moment) they would stick with their moral values; even and especially in the face of the howling mob.
They obviously have been good parents and no one, least of all "run your fucking mouth first and find out the actual facts never" Savage, has any idea what they are/have going through to lead them to this difficult decision.
But it's pretty safe to say they aren't acting out of a concern over 'appearance'...
And how is "[sticking] to their moral values" going to be good for their kid, when the moral values they seem to be sticking to condemn who he is as evil and disgusting. Should they have attempted to beat the gay out of him instead?
And yes, the sky is orange on a regular basis. It's called sunset, and it's what's happening to the prejudicial ideals of yesteryear; your breed of bigotry is dying out.
I hope we can play a round of Spot the Logical Fallacies again, that was fun.
@76:
TL; DR. LTR. LTW. DIAF. TY. KXTHXBAI.
/there's clearly a need for it: http://www.urinalgum.com/?p=887
Christianity thrives on shoving their beliefs down the the throats of the non believing. You don't want your son seeing men with men, women with women, etc? I don't want my kids seeing your building with cross. That is against MY beliefs. And no one is forcing you or anybody to watch, fuckstick. On the other hand, I have yet to find a gay recruitment brochure hanging from my doorknob.
Snape/Sirius OTP
that's all.
I yield to your superior knowledge of the quarry, sir!
Too Long; Didn't Read. Learn To Read. Learn To Write. Die In A Fire. Thank you. Okay, thanks, bye.
ILTUMASIBNLTCIS
*I like to use mystifying acronyms sometimes, including but not limited to common Interwebs speak.
"They could not, like their son, have failed to learn the lesson from Constance's saga;
that there would be an outpouring of support for the homosexual position,
that if they also were totally supportive no matter what or who their kid wants to fuck they would be hailed as enlightened progressive cool parents,
that if they expressed anything short of unquestioning support they would be labeled ignorant bigoted haters."
I figured your reply to 76 was something witty, but thank you for posting the full text!
his parents might actually be concerned for Derrick, and not just for his short-term PR value to 'the cause'.
morals ARE subjective.
Slog is putting it's fundamentally flawed, intrinsically held values ahead of the best interests of Derrick, to his enormous harm.
And how is the value of accepting people for who they are (NOT necessarily for what they do to others) fundamentally flawed.
Whine whine, moan moan, bitch bitch. Man up and pull your head out of your ass, Alleged.
Just what does "dragging it all out in the open" mean? If you mean GAY SEX IN PUBLIC, uh, yeah, I agree. Or does someone refusing to keep their big secret anymore (coming out) constitute, to you, "dragging it all out in the open"? If that's the case, go to hell.