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they tried to keep plan b away from us and failed, i'm excited to have this option available to myself and other women who have sex with men. so, you know, we won't have to have those abortions that these people hate so much.
The important thing about Plan B is that if you take it too late it wont terminate the pregnancy by accident. I think this should be accessible to women for the same reason a full on abortion should be accessible. However this is an easier battle for the fundies than the fight against Plan B which won't accidentally cause a miscarriage of a 1 day olf embryo.
It's pretty darned common.
So it's not just str8s that have skin in this game ...
Because, you know, pregnancy never places a women's life in danger.
STAY OUT OF MY UTERUS, YOU ANTI-WOMAN, ANTI-SEX JERKS.
Please, take a step back & see that there isn't a single social issue that the Fundies want that is for the greater good of humans. What they want only profits a narrow few. For all their talk, they are at odds w/ everything the Bill of Rights stands for. (If they could get away w/ taking guns away from the "Islams," they'd do it.) The major players the GLBT folks immediately run up against also happen to be the same people that oppose any and all other progressive folks.
I can just picture Steven Ertelt with his eyes bulging out of his head, pounding out the article so fast he doesn't have time for edits. "these murdering ABORTIONISTS! They will not get away with this"
Between this story and this one: Videoconferencing Is Used to Administer Abortion Drugs - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/health…), it's been a rough week for the fetus people. May every week be like this one for them.
I also don't get how people who went to medical school can still hold these ignorant beliefs as in members of American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists. Sometimes you just want to bury your head in the sand....
What's so hard about birth control? Access to it for one. Most insurance doesn't cover it...or they only cover part of it. The Pill be expensive man, anywhere from $50-70 bucks out-of-pocket, no insurance. Also, the fundies go out of their way to block comprehensive sex education. Young people are told that BC and condoms don't work....so they don't use 'em. Second, fundies harass and threaten staff at all Planned Parenthoods, not just the ones that provide abortion services. Would you want to cross a mob of screaming, blood-thristy religious nuts for an RX? Go ahead I want to see you do it! Also, thanks to President George Dubya Shrub, true "Christian" health care providers can follow their "conscience" and dispense morality lessons rather than real medicine and preach the word of the lawd instead of giving real medical advice. Oh, and another thing, women in abusive relationships are often victims of coercive reproduction. Abusive men frequently sabotage their mates BC so as to control them through a child. The myth about the conniving bitch who "tricks" a guy into getting her pregnant is just that, a myth. (If you insist on sticking your dick into a woman without a condom on it, you were not tricked. You're an abusive asshole and let's be honest here, you're not going to pay 18 years worth of child support payments. You're a douche who's going to skip out on her. Who do you think you're fooling?)
p.s. 54% of women who have an unintended pregnancy had used some form of contraceptive at the time.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induce…
I agree with almost everthing you said ... Except for he part about the non-existance of women who would trap a man through pregnancy. Though far less common I'm sure, women can sabotage birth control methods too (ie. Piercing holes in condoms). I caught a girlfriend doing it only because of a childhood fear surrounding unsealed bags of chips at Halloween and when confronted she admitted to it and was promptly DTMFAed. I don't want to take away from your overall comment, totally valid, but to pretend one sex is capable of bad behaviour and the other isn't on mass is a misrepresentation.
For future reference every scummy, abusive, manipulative act of assholery a man can pull on a woman has an equally shitty, exploitative conduct perpetrated by a woman. People can suck regardless of the plumbing.
En masse*
Tried to edit and didn't make the change, sorry all.
Heterosexuals (male & female) who don't want a pregnancy have a moral and ethical responsibility to practice birth control every time they have sex.
And, it's true that 54% of women with an unplanned pregnancy had used birth control. But, don't forget the rest of the statistic. Of this 54% group, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users reported using their contraceptive method inconsistently. That's simply unacceptable. They need to learn how to use it.
To clarify - I am in no way saying that women should be denied their abortion rights or access to the medicine discussed in this article. All I'm saying is that people need to take responsibility for their sexual behaviors and do whatever is necessary to ensure they don't create an unwanted pregnancy.
I hope you marry someone who doesn't have sex when you're not trying to conceive. That would mean just a few months (most likely) of sex for every child you have.
hmm... no wonder those fundies tend to have such big families...
JEEZ, if you're going to try to vilify emergency contraception, at least spell it right!
From what I'm reading, it does seem possible to use ulipristal acetate as an abortifacient, but it would have to be in much higher doses than those used for emergency contraception, and it would have to be paired with a prostaglandin.
WAKE UP, knucklehead. Did it ever occur to you that a woman in an abusive relationship might BE pregnant because her partner is controlling her? That he's controlling her contraceptive use? Taking off the condom while having sex (this happened to me once)? Messing with her pills? Threatening to beat her until she "consents" to have sex with him? Outright marital rape?
Then once she's pregnant, either she's afraid to have the baby because she's afraid she'll be beaten, or she's afraid to have an abortion because she's afraid she'll be beaten. Or, he continues to abuse her by forcing her to have an abortion she doesn't want (this has happened to somebody I know) or beats her until she miscarries. Or he gets her pregnant and keeps her pregnant, because once she has children, she's that much easier to control. As in, you stupid bitch, you try and leave and I'll take your kids and take your money/I'll beat you and your children into a bloody pulp/you'll be abandoned and alone and your children will suffer.
As far as other methods of contraception, like #21 I have a close relative who was conceived when the mother was using an IUD. I know women who took their pills religiously and still got pregnant, because nobody told them that the doxycycline they were taking for their sinus infection would make their pills useless.
So put your money where your mouth is. If you're preaching the gospel of personal responsibility, start yelling to take a page out of South Africa's book and put free condom dispensers in every school, post office, and public building around. Work on Congress to take a page out of the Dutch's (and Swedish and Norwegian and Canadian and...) book to make contraceptive medicines and devices free to every woman, everywhere. Stand up and CHEER for emergency contraception to be available everywhere, over the counter, regardless of whether some fundy pharmacist is there or not, so that if you do everything right--or even if you do everything WRONG--there is still a way to keep an unplanned pregnancy from happening. Standing there tut-tutting and waving your finger doesn't do a lick of good.
There is no birth control method that is 100% effective. There are methods that reduce your probability enough that adults choose to take educated risks.
@25: Hysterectomy (although I don't think this is ever viewed as a birth control option, given the invasiveness) and abstaining from sexual activity that presents a risk of pregnancy (e.g. only homo-sex or keeping the semen away from the vagina in hetero-sex), although we could, I suppose, say that since rapists also target women who abstain from voluntary sexual activity that presents any risk of pregnancy, even abstinence (from certain kinds of sexual activity) isn't 100% effective.
Dear Assholes:
Please confine your sex-negativity (and unregulated propagation) to Jesusland, and leave the rest of us alone. That is all.