They do touch on a good point in that many "liberals" latch on to relativity to attempt to support notions of moral relativism or half baked stoner metaphysics, e.g. "What the Bleep Do We Know?" However, this is based on a misinterpretation of relativity that drives physicists nuts. Really this is a function of a poor level of science education rather than a liberal conspiracy.
When will they go after DNA as a liberal plot? It has to happen soon because DNA is the very Rosetta Stone of evolution and has most certainly proven the bible is a lot of horse pucky.
oh dear. The article does spend most of its time denying relativity. however, when it begins to discuss time dilation, it actually looks to relativity to support creationism:
"Creation scientists such as physicists Dr. Russell Humphreys and Dr. John Hartnett have used relativistic time dilation to explain how the earth can be only 6,000 years old even though cosmological data (background radiation, supernovae, etc.) set a much older age for the universe. "
The stupid ain't never going to be over. H.L. Mencken was writing about it decades ago, and it's still here.
Forcing kids to go to schools where they would actually receive a proper education might help, but the Happy-To-Be-Stupid faction has their own schools which they're allowed to use to keep their children in their private Stupid Bubble of a world.
Wait, so the Biblical argument against relativity is that Jesus once healed someone far away, and that relativity prohibits that? What? Somehow, I have a hard time believing that the time it would take Jesus' speed-of-light healing-rays to reach a faraway man is long enough for the clocks of the time to register a discrepancy.
Besides, even if they were, even if Jesus could instantaneously heal someone in apparent violation of special relativity, doesn't that just mean it's a miracle?
Yeah, clearly this moron has no concept of just how fast the speed of light is. At 186,000 miles per second, it could travel thousands of miles so quickly that it would effectively be instantaneous.
The funnies thing about this is that if you believe that God as literally written in the Bible is literally... well, GOD, then little things like relativity don't mean shit to the guy. Like, if I was God, and I met Hawking, and he was all, quantum entanglement this and special relativity that says I can't be ten places at once, I'd take him with me to ten places at once just to prove that I could. That's sort of the point of faith. God(s) get to break the rules, since in theory they MADE the rules.
Dumbasses need to rewatch the Matrix or Bruce Almighty.
@15- Exactly. Aren't miracles kind of defacto exempt from the laws of physics? And if not, I'd love to see the science they've got worked up for the Loaves and Fishes.
More importantly, Einstein was an awesome wingman when he taught at Princeton. I once worked with a guy who want to Princeton when Einstein taught there, and, apparently, he would wander the campus on weekend nights and step in when he saw a young couple and sing the praises of the young man. Famous man giving instant booty...that's really why the conservatives hate him. ;)
I've read about this asshole before. As a physics major, you can imagine just how much he pisses me off. >.>
As for Jesus having instant healing powers (thus, faster than light), on earth, the elapsed time is such a small number that it's negligible.
Now, if the Bible discusses how Jesus sent his ~cosmic healing rays~ to the other side of the universe in an instant... Well maybe I'd be more inclined to read the Bible if it was sci-fi....
Jesus used quantum entanglement to do some spooky action at a distance to communicate with extraterrestrials in other star systems. They were not very amused when he asked if their refrigerator was running. His disciples were highly confused as the refrigerator had not yet been invented. Thus, extraterrestrials traveled to earth, experiencing the requisite time dilation, and arrived in the 1940s. They then spent their time sodomizing American rednecks and rigging elections that the democrats won.
@7: Yeah, reminded me of the Colbert line at the correspondent's dinner "Facts have a clear liberal bias."
@17: Eh, this is a specious argument. The supernatural is by definition impossible. Were the "supernatural" to be real, it would by definition cease to be supernatural and just be natural, while demonstrating a lack in our understanding of how the natural world works. "God" cannot violate natural law; the only possibility there is that we have a gross misunderstanding of what natural law is, allowing "god" to perform things we view as miraculous due to our lack of understanding.
I am also not surprised that a strong education in physics correlates to a lack of religion, or at least belief in the literal word of the Christian Bible (which really does necessitate a simultaneous belief in contradictory versions of reality), and asserting that this is a "cause" is not necessarily untrue. Asserting that this is a problem is another story.
Heh. The bible doesn't prove that "action at a distance" is possible. It is entirely possible that Jesus (or as the case may be, his divine will or healing powers, or his direct line of communication with god, or whatever the hell it was) acted well under the speed of light. Especially considering that the accuracy of the timepiece used to measure the action was probably about plus or minus 15 minutes, and the distance between Jesus and the sick boy he healed could be measured in a small handful of miles. Light could travel between these two points in such a small amount of time that it would not actually be noticeable to humans. Thus "instantaneous" is what is really questionable in this tale, not relativistic physics.
I'm going after Hawking...I'll get Einstein later.
They're both hucksters.
(Never mind that experiments have actually demonstrated the effects of relativistic time dilation...)
"Creation scientists such as physicists Dr. Russell Humphreys and Dr. John Hartnett have used relativistic time dilation to explain how the earth can be only 6,000 years old even though cosmological data (background radiation, supernovae, etc.) set a much older age for the universe. "
Forcing kids to go to schools where they would actually receive a proper education might help, but the Happy-To-Be-Stupid faction has their own schools which they're allowed to use to keep their children in their private Stupid Bubble of a world.
Besides, even if they were, even if Jesus could instantaneously heal someone in apparent violation of special relativity, doesn't that just mean it's a miracle?
Dumbasses need to rewatch the Matrix or Bruce Almighty.
@venom chill out
As for Jesus having instant healing powers (thus, faster than light), on earth, the elapsed time is such a small number that it's negligible.
Now, if the Bible discusses how Jesus sent his ~cosmic healing rays~ to the other side of the universe in an instant... Well maybe I'd be more inclined to read the Bible if it was sci-fi....
@17: Eh, this is a specious argument. The supernatural is by definition impossible. Were the "supernatural" to be real, it would by definition cease to be supernatural and just be natural, while demonstrating a lack in our understanding of how the natural world works. "God" cannot violate natural law; the only possibility there is that we have a gross misunderstanding of what natural law is, allowing "god" to perform things we view as miraculous due to our lack of understanding.
I am also not surprised that a strong education in physics correlates to a lack of religion, or at least belief in the literal word of the Christian Bible (which really does necessitate a simultaneous belief in contradictory versions of reality), and asserting that this is a "cause" is not necessarily untrue. Asserting that this is a problem is another story.
That's why Einstein was unhappy with the name "relativity theory," which he only grudgingly accepted after it entered wide use.
To liken Einsteinian relativity theory with the concept of cultural relativism is an act of truly impressive ignorance.