So when some drunk gets on one of these and gets creamed by a car, and his parents sue him, what then? Civic amenities are more complicated than they look at first glance.
My college had these all over campus, and a team of students willing to maintain them, and it was great. Of course, in that location people were mostly riding across campus and not in traffic.
I love the idea of this, and the fact that this guy is just tossing something great out there and hoping it takes off is amazing. I do share Fnarf's concern, though. What happens if/when someone on one of these bikes gets hurt? Doesn't have to be because the rider is inebriated. Could be the bike is in need of a tune-up, could be operator error, could be eville car driver not paying attention....no matter the cause, I could see someone looking for an easy target for blame.
Well, first of all, their lawyer would advise them not bother with the suit because Guy Olson doesn't have enough assets to make him a worthwhile target.
Should they decide to press on anyway, the local media would proceed to burn them a new asshole for going after a do-gooder citizen.
If they still persisted, the judge would promptly dismiss the suit because the risks of riding a bicycle are known and obvious.
Paris, France did this in the 80's. The majority of bicycles were eventually stolen, repainted, and resold in Amsterdam. Subsequently the program was dropped.
I very much like the idea, but question whether it can be truly maintained either: a) for long, or b) in an "open-ended" space (eg. a city). As opposed to a "closed" space, like Burning Man or the Oregon Country Fair.
Culturally speaking, it does give people the opportunity to exercise their best morality. Hopefully helping push us, however incrementally, towards a more civil society.
Spokane (aka the Lilac City) did this several years back with lilac-colored bikes. I forget how many bikes, but it seemed like they were all stolen &/or wrecked within a week.
you know what sucks, is that in europe they can do this kind of thing fine WITHOUT bikes getting stolen chopped or wrecked. amsterdam and copenhagen both have city-wide free public bikes and it's awesome! it's too bad we greedy americans can't do the same.
In Barcelona they have a public utility that has hundreds of bikes locked into racks that city residents register for and use cheaply. At night a maintainance truck drives around, fixes them and relocates the bikes from racks that are full to the empty ones. People tend to ride downhill and take the bus or train uphill so some racks are perpetually full and some are always empty. It works great and is cheaper than accomidating more cars or building more train capacity. Since users have to be registered and a city utility does the upkeep it isn't free but for a couple of million dollars you could by a thousand bikes, instal the racks and hire the staff to make it run. Users are auto debited a nominal usage fee to keep the bikes in circulation and offset some of the cost. Compared to the cost of one overpass or even a ten foot section of the tunnel this is cheap.
If it were a train, it would be riding on tracks laid down by volunteers using whatever materials they had available -- which would be nice of them but I definitely wouldn't ride it.
Like it or not bikes need to be well maintained or they can become dangerous quickly, and it can be hard to tell when they are or not. I've seen the bikes he's using for this project and I could definitely see someone hopping on one and not realizing the brakes are no good until it's too late. People could easily get hurt.
In 2007 Paris France replaced the previous failed system with one that works fantastically and is now the pride of the city. http://www.eurocheapo.com/blog/paris-vel…
HOLY SHIT! I saw this bike outside of WEST 5. The RIMS & CASSETTE are spray painted! I was examining this piece of horror, when a fat, drunk , smoker, guy asked me if it was my bike. Are you effin kiddin me, I would never ride this "piece o'shit'! paint on the RIMS!! how in the hell does you brakes work!! DUDE I hope you have a gazzillin $$$$ in insurance.
Gotta love that. I used to live in W Seattle and he's right, the public transit is horrible. It's like you're not even in Seattle anymore, and people wonder why congestion gets so bad.
That being said, the best bike programs are the ones that use cheap comfort bikes made up to be hideous, and have some dedicated method to payment and theft prevention. The honor system just doesn't work.
Where'd that sexy bike photo come from?
I love the idea of this, and the fact that this guy is just tossing something great out there and hoping it takes off is amazing. I do share Fnarf's concern, though. What happens if/when someone on one of these bikes gets hurt? Doesn't have to be because the rider is inebriated. Could be the bike is in need of a tune-up, could be operator error, could be eville car driver not paying attention....no matter the cause, I could see someone looking for an easy target for blame.
Well, first of all, their lawyer would advise them not bother with the suit because Guy Olson doesn't have enough assets to make him a worthwhile target.
Should they decide to press on anyway, the local media would proceed to burn them a new asshole for going after a do-gooder citizen.
If they still persisted, the judge would promptly dismiss the suit because the risks of riding a bicycle are known and obvious.
I very much like the idea, but question whether it can be truly maintained either: a) for long, or b) in an "open-ended" space (eg. a city). As opposed to a "closed" space, like Burning Man or the Oregon Country Fair.
Culturally speaking, it does give people the opportunity to exercise their best morality. Hopefully helping push us, however incrementally, towards a more civil society.
Good luck, Guy!
, who cares- it's a genuine effort in the right direction. GO GREEN GUY, GO!
Like it or not bikes need to be well maintained or they can become dangerous quickly, and it can be hard to tell when they are or not. I've seen the bikes he's using for this project and I could definitely see someone hopping on one and not realizing the brakes are no good until it's too late. People could easily get hurt.
That being said, the best bike programs are the ones that use cheap comfort bikes made up to be hideous, and have some dedicated method to payment and theft prevention. The honor system just doesn't work.
Hopefully these bikes get some good use.