Children older than two should be weaned off of whole milk.
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And whole milk is a bit worse for you than skim in terms of fat, but its still fucking milk.
It amazes me what people don’t consider junk food.
Not unhealthy as a food group. I am going to refrain from writing out how to make it unhealthy since you obviously already know that.
"a Swedish study has found that women who regularly consume at least one serving of full-fat dairy every day gained about 30 percent less weight than women who didn't. The researchers, from the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, looked at the intake of whole, sour, medium- and lowfat milk, as well as cheese and butter for 19,352 Swedish women aged 40-55 years at the start of the study. "
How is it that full-fat dairy reduces weight gain in women aged 40-55, but is considered empty calories and contributes to the obesity epidemic in children? Don't women aged 40-55 have more body fat?
Local dairies like Sea Breeze sell whole milk. Are they part of the "processed food" industry?
My kid's body mass index is 13.7. I let him have cheese and whole milk, or "homo milk" as he puts it, and ice cream once a week. It's the sugar that gets limited.
I'm thinking sugar is more to blame for obesity, diabetics, disease than milk is. Maybe the dairy industry doesn't pay its lobbyists enough.
It's rare we have Soda. the only sugary fruit drinks are natural juice (in the frozen section), but we do buy ice cream, locally made pizza (seriously, check out Kylie's Chicago Pizza in Fremont - yum). Who buys whole milk? We switched from 2 pct to 1 pct a few years back.
On the other hand ... donuts. Mostly buy those maybe once a month.
You're far better off getting exercise and eating a varied diet, actually. Too much of anything is bad.
@9 I swear I read a study a few months ago that found that childhood obesity is more related to diet choices than exercise. It's only one study, of course, but I thought that was very interesting, given all the attention that's being paid to getting kids to exercise. I'll see if I can find it...
Now, I eat a lot healthier. I buy sustainably raised beef and pork, joined a CSA, and get organic eggs, milk and cheese from local sources. I enjoy my healthy food now, as I never did as a kid. And I appreciate what my mom tried to do for me. But there has to be a happy medium between 100% Junk and No Sugar Nazi where parents can live most of the time and teach their kids to make better choices.
If somebody can figure that happy medium out, let me know.
HF Corn Syrup is so the culprit. It becomes a taste that kids like, and it helps them say no to tastes they don't like, but then the diet becomes all HF corn syrup.
I had a pal who was a fatty loser who only ever ate the worst ghetto food, never EVER a salad, he had colitis due to all the junk he eats. I got him to eat a leafy good salad (No dressing, no high fat cheese or meat, lots of veggies but not a super health salad, it had a little bacon and olives, etc) After choking it down he had horrible diarrhea and told me he passed salad, relatively whole.
His body lost the ability to break down veggies, or something, maybe I should ask science.
Sure, they're not good for kids if they eat them 24/7. Hell, you'd get sick eating vegetables, if that's all you ate. Cutting this stuff out of your life is the wrong message, and won't work. Moderation is the key - a candybar a week won't hurt you.
Diet is part of it, but I'd argue that exercise is even more important. Kids sit on their asses and watch TV or play on the computer all day because they see their parents doing it. And they think it's alright to be fat because of all the crap on TV about how being 'different' is okay. They're made to believe it's in their genes, or they were born to be fat, or some other pseudo-medical drivel. How about going out and running around? Play sports.
This is coming from someone who *was* an overweight kid. I'm 5'10 and weighed 290 pounds my freshman year of High school. But I realized that I was fat, and unattractive, and decided to change. I worked out. I stopped eating shitty foods every day. Today, I weigh 175 pounds, and am on my way to the gym right now, because I'm not where I want to be yet.
It wasn't easy, but it wasn't that hard, either. Put down the fork and go run some laps. It's willpower.
Her tongue is tickling his small intestines...
"Eating is learned behavior. Kids eat what their parents eat," said Dr. Charles Dick, professor of medicine at Indiana University School of Medicine. "If busy parents throw a nasty cock in their mouth, or up their ass, that's a bad meal that sends a bad message."
I don't see individual diets as the problem. Instead, there are some societal issues that need fixing:
Kids don't walk or bike to school any more. They should, in the rain and in the snow.
Our entire food economy is designed around repurposing corn and soy, which are subsidized so they are artificially cheap, into various edible forms--from HFCS and corn chips to cattle feed and food-added ascorbic acid.
Salt (and/or sugar) is added as a filler to add weight and the impression of flavor to almost all food--instead of using actual ingredients to create a sense of flavor and satiety (and nutrition). Our grandmothers would pucker at the saltiness we tolerate in modern food.
Western cultures are undergoing a serious "technology loss" in that people no longer know how to cook, even very basically, and people no longer know what food is in season when.
Western societies have grown up on mass-produced food and don't know what grass-fed beef, heirloom turkey, or a proper strawberry or peach actually taste like. All our food is bland nowadays, so we are trained to seek out flavor from saltier, sugarier, and fattier fare.
The only people who can make use of nutritional labels are those with a certain level of education. The vast majority of people in Western cultures cannot make use of nutrition labeling, and companies no that.
The only people who realistically can cook from scratch at all are those who can afford child care and/or have at least one stay-at-home parent--and can afford pricier raw ingredients.
How many empty calories is that?
Essential to the digestive process are cultures of bacteria found primarily in the intestines, the primary region of nutrient absorption. People consuming unvaried or specific diets will find themselves with the sort of bacterial cultures for the most part incapable of digesting uncommonly consumed foods. If one, nevertheless, keeps at it and attempts to consume a more varied diet from the one your friend ate primarily, one should be able, ultimately, to digest such without issue.
Many transitioning from a vegetarian to omnivorous diet experience similar problems digesting animal matter.
Give it a rest, will ya?
I see hordes of middle-schoolers every afternoon in the convenience store across the street. Everyone gets an Icee, and then as much junk food as they can afford -- candy bars, gum, stuff I don't even recognize.
We try -- we make an effort to try to give them at least one decent, healthy meal at dinner that we all sit down and eat together, barely ever eat fast food and also limit things like candy, soda and junk food. I'm sure my kids are way under that 40% stat, and they are both very active in afterschool sports.
Still, I can sympathize with the parents (especially single or divorced parents) who are too exhausted to go to battle every night with their kids after 14 hours at work to get them to eat their vegetables. The fact that we live in an economy where wages have stayed stagnant for decades while the price of everything else has ballooned to ridiculous levels has taken a toll on the health of families and kids.
Hoo boy are they gonna have their hands full. Kids do say the darndest things. LOL
But I also follow my mom's rule: if we're eating something quick and easy at home, we ALWAYS have fresh produce with every meal. I cut up an apple, some cucumbers/carrots/peppers/tomatoes, and whatever other fruit is on hand (one thing I admit I love about globalization is we have fresh strawberries year round). My son gets fresh produce at EVERY meal, so frankly, I don't really worry about the occasional donut or fried chicken finger.
And: zero soda. None, ever. IMO that shit's nasty, though my husband is addicted to it.
What's changed is the cost, and the portions. Coke was originally sold in 6-ounce bottles; now, the smallest one you can get from a fast-food place is 16 or 24 ounces, and kids typically get the 32-ounce size, with free refills. I see people on the bus chugging out of half gallon "juice" (mostly sugar water) or "sports drink" (entirely sugar water) bottles. And, adjusting for inflation, and people's incomes, junk food is practically free.
Even "good" food is served in huge portions. I'm convinced that we'd do well to fight obesity by showing people what a normal portion of food is. Meat portion should be about the size of a deck of cards. Butter portion about the size of a dice. Drinks should be at max in 8 oz servings.
I was raised to eat what was on my plate. To this day, I have to "clean my plate."
Most of us need in the neighborhood of just less than 2000 per day.
This efficience has been created in teh last 30 years or so. Think back to the late 70s, early 80s. Are portion sizes in any restaurant twice what they were then? Or even larger?
The truth is,t here is 2.5 times as much food out there as we need, in terms of calories. Where is to going to go if we don't eat it? No one knows, because so far we have been eating it, and it has gone to our waistlines.
Until we address the issue public health issue of too much food available, telling us to eat less is the wrong thing to do. Those who grow and make the food are not going to just throw it away, they will find a way to make it palatable.
Also, when you eat nothing but processed foods, you don't chew much. Raw leafy vegetables need to be chewed up.
A lot of those folks have lived into their 90s anyway - the nursing homes are full of them.
Or you can just take the easy way out and blame the economy for your bad decisions.
DavidC, you are describing my kids as well. Dan Savage's ideal of parents modeling behavior may work in the extreme long term, but it hasn't seemed to work on my teenagers.
Our Founding Fathers mostly drank cider or whiskey for their meals, including breakfast.
The pics of before and after the in-town move are revealing how fast it took my grandfather to put on weight. He kept eating his farm menu portions. He died overweight but thinner than many people at my local Walmart.
My parents now live at a senior center and a quick perusal of the dining hall shows some fat but again, NOTHING like what they younger people on the outside are sporting.
But then they would go and do things, like build a house.
Nowadays people eat a huge meal and then sit around tweeting about what they just ate.
My kids like Jamba Juice and Powerade style crap, but they are each rail thin thanks to their constant activity. They'll have to give up on that stuff when their metabolisms finally give out like mine did.
The key point of being a parent is to raise responsible, intelligent, educated adults. By your logic, the insane helicopter parents who are too terrified to let their kids play in the front yard or walk to school (because OMG pedophiles!) are the very model of good parenting.
Parents that can 100 percent control what their kids eat are not fulfilling the real objective of parenthood -- they're raising kids who can barely stand up and walk let alone deal with adulthood.
This year they started public school, where they only have twenty minutes to eat lunch in a busy room with lots of distractions. My kids are already under weight -- my son is consistently around the 10th percentile -- so my ideas about a healthy diet have gone to hell. I am willing to put just about anything in their lunches to get them to eat it quickly, just so they get a few calories during the day.
The focus is on healthy/local/organic - and it's funny too
I think you may have over analyzed my post just a wee bit.
The most hilarious thing about skim milk is that it costs just as much, even though it's basically a waste product. Fortunately for the dairy industry, there's a sucker born every minute.
Americans need to practice a lot more moderation in their eating. The fact that places like Claim Jumper exist is proof of how ingrained a "more is better" approach to eating has become. You pratically have to go out of your way to get pre-made food that isn't super sized.
Bottom line: eat like a pig, look like a pig.
Oh, and that obnoxious three-year-old who made the comment about leaving the party because there was no good food there? He needs a swift kick in the ass.
But, this influenced my brother and I in totally different ways as adults -- e.g., he loves sugar cereal, I think it's disgusting. So, even if you have a reasonable approach to teaching your kids about food, they're going to internalize it different ways. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try though.
Punishing people for what they eat is the worst kind of government intervention and intrusion into our lives. What can be more personal than what you put in your mouth? Every time Lefties start talking Nanny-state laws meant to "protect us", I hear exactly the same rhetoric that the Righties use when they want to ban abortions or discriminate against gays.
(( Sadly, Time's website doesn't seem to contain the entire article text. Lame.))
Yes, because our taxes on terrorism, illegal drugs, and poverty have cost us money and not solved the problem. Because they don't exist.
Are you trolling? I can't tell. You're saying something stupid and weird, so it might be an attempt to parody Libertarian babble.
Anyway, taxing alcohol and cigarettes haven't cost the general public anything, just consumers of alcohol and cigarettes. Because it cost too much, I quit smoking and now there's less garbage in the world, I'm sick less often and I'll probably have a longer more productive life.
@66: Water is the best beverage, really, but milk is good for you in moderation, due to its obscenely high calcium content and the decent amount of protein it contains. Don't knock it.
But that would be cheaper.
And it would WORK.
That's bull! Anyone who has the time to watch TV has the time to cook food from scratch. It doesn't take that long. My mom was a single parent, and she cooked from scratch, and taught us how to do the same from an early age. Cooking from scratch is both the cheapest way to eat and the healthiest. When I was a kid, my family was simply too poor to be able to afford junk food.