"Not a slave. We took the chains off, but you still can't vote"
You could very well be talking about white slaves, who were brought to this country about 100 years before African slaves were. So a white felon can't vote just like a black felon can't, but dat be racis? Here's a novel approach, don’t be a felon! Oh, I know, it's all the oppression that the evil YT forced upon the innocent black. Why aren't incarceration rates similar for the Irish? After all, they were oppressed for over 1100 years in their homeland.
wow, other than @1 and maybe 5, this thread has been both a slog asswipe and idiot wankfest, and chock full of the usual banal insight from the resident dolts.
fuck,@11 just illustrates this disconnect, there is not going to be any revolution.... not in any real way, mostly smoke and distraction, sure the house will probably change hands, not much more... other than that the administration will move forward w/immigration and DADT, perhaps even voter disenfranchisement and an end to overseas campaign finance donations.
@13: okay, true that, will's chain needs a good something.... maybe a connecting link here or there, or perhaps the kind of clue that is beyond any human or bot to give him.
Well at least they still have their fundamental right to marriage. The Supreme Court granted that right when it struck down a law which said a prisoner could only get married with permission of the warden. Law abiding gay folks can't get married but folks such as Washington's own prize catch, Ted Bundy, was married while in prison in Florida. For years gays couldn't adopt in FL but Ted Bundy got to father a child while in a FL prison. Gotta love how them heterosexuals rally around their own.
Having been in this situation entitles one to an opinion.
Not having "done that and been there" disqualifies one from having an informed opinion on this question.
That won't stop the "law and order" freaks from screeching and wailing, beating their chests and threatening to do something stupid.
I'm one of the former, a federal class C felony prisoner for 16 months, and I fully concur with not allowing people in prison or jail, or on probation prior to completion of financial obligations (fines, restitution), to register to vote or vote in any elections, even to select a dogcatcher.
However, once a person has "paid their debt(s) to society," they rejoin that society and must be allowed to fully participate in it, including receiving any benefits accorded to "normal" citizens (Ha! That's a joke, son.)
Decent people do not continue to hound and punish others after they atone for their sins.
Thanks, AG McKenna, now what are you going to do about the systemic racial bias that led to the ruling in the first place?
Keep in mind, the court found that we have an inherently racist penal system. That fact is not in dispute. The issue at hand was whether or not that fact puts our felony disenfranchisement laws in conflict with the VRO.
That issue has been decided, but I don't hear any talk about fixing our system.
Thanks, AG McKenna, now what are you going to do about the systemic racial bias that led to the ruling in the first place?
Keep in mind, the court found that we have an inherently racist penal system. That fact is not in dispute. The issue at hand was whether or not that fact puts our felony disenfranchisement laws in conflict with the VRO.
That issue has been decided, but I don't hear any talk about fixing our system.
Unless you're a minority, of course. Then you're just an indentured serf.
Not a slave. We took the chains off, but you still can't vote.
(an aside, his daughter is nice, even if he isn't)
Guess they'll never elect any more Democrats in WA again.
You could very well be talking about white slaves, who were brought to this country about 100 years before African slaves were. So a white felon can't vote just like a black felon can't, but dat be racis? Here's a novel approach, don’t be a felon! Oh, I know, it's all the oppression that the evil YT forced upon the innocent black. Why aren't incarceration rates similar for the Irish? After all, they were oppressed for over 1100 years in their homeland.
Have you seen Jessica Alba in The Eye?
Very hot, in a natural kind of way.
Here's that Eye picture:
http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2008_The…
Hawtness.
fuck,@11 just illustrates this disconnect, there is not going to be any revolution.... not in any real way, mostly smoke and distraction, sure the house will probably change hands, not much more... other than that the administration will move forward w/immigration and DADT, perhaps even voter disenfranchisement and an end to overseas campaign finance donations.
Not having "done that and been there" disqualifies one from having an informed opinion on this question.
That won't stop the "law and order" freaks from screeching and wailing, beating their chests and threatening to do something stupid.
I'm one of the former, a federal class C felony prisoner for 16 months, and I fully concur with not allowing people in prison or jail, or on probation prior to completion of financial obligations (fines, restitution), to register to vote or vote in any elections, even to select a dogcatcher.
However, once a person has "paid their debt(s) to society," they rejoin that society and must be allowed to fully participate in it, including receiving any benefits accorded to "normal" citizens (Ha! That's a joke, son.)
Decent people do not continue to hound and punish others after they atone for their sins.
Keep in mind, the court found that we have an inherently racist penal system. That fact is not in dispute. The issue at hand was whether or not that fact puts our felony disenfranchisement laws in conflict with the VRO.
That issue has been decided, but I don't hear any talk about fixing our system.
Keep in mind, the court found that we have an inherently racist penal system. That fact is not in dispute. The issue at hand was whether or not that fact puts our felony disenfranchisement laws in conflict with the VRO.
That issue has been decided, but I don't hear any talk about fixing our system.