It's worth noting that no less than Andrew Sullivan and Dan Savage were part of the Big Lie machine not all that long ago--hello Iraq/Afghanistan War proponents--so, glass houses, stones, and all that.
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But people will continue to justify republican gains in whatever way that makes them feel better. So yeah.
Most Americans are simply too stupid to recognize the facts that he presented.
You know, I thought the whole Republican "rewrite things to their own fantasy la la land" would at least be dialed back to a dull roar aafter 2008. You know, Onion would become funny again (instead of looking alarmingly like actual, real publications) and so on. But nooooo... if anything it's quadrupled. They make 1984 look *tame*. I reread that last year and was surprised at how un-extreme parts of it seemed, as compared to when I read it in high school, when it scared the bejesus out of me.
Come at me bro.
"Socialist" has long been a code word for "n*gger," at least as far back as the civil rights movement.
Will deliberately paints things as far more black-and-white than they are. If the Republicans have demonstrated anything this year, it's that we have policy differences because there are two parties. Because of the evolutionary reality of American republican democracy, the party that's out of power doesn't have a vested interest in seeing the nation succeed or even seeing its own agenda get enacted under the other party so much as it has a vested interest in seeing the other party fail.
Remember, it was a Republican, Mitt Romney, who introduced the whole concept of an individual health-insurance mandate. Now, the individual mandate is the apotheosis of everything that is evil and liberal and un-American. And I've read that the health-care reform we wound up with is not all that different from what Bob Dole and company proposed as an alternative to Hillarycare. And yet...
You could say the same about the Republicans' stance on the stimulus (something like 33% or 40% of which was tax cuts), their stance on the GM/Chrysler bailout, about their all of a sudden becoming deficit hawks.
it IS true that Obama has been awfully good for conservatives.
much better that McPain would have been.
and Danny, don't think we don't appreciate it!
Obviously America is exceptional in some ways - being the first colony in the New World to gain independence, our Constitution and Bill of Rights were quite trailblazing (but of course, still based on earlier precedents), and we're one of the most powerful countries in the world.
But there's really no reason to believe that the US will be the foremost superpower forever, or that we will never fall into tyranny, etc. etc.
To me, this makes their cases all the more compelling, considering that their original wrong-headed views, and their recently seeing the light, appear both to spring from genuine motives. The people who sicken me are the opportunists, people like Republican operative Ken Mehlman who advance one position to get ahead and then, once it's politically convenient, switch to the opposite position.
Indeed a darwinian system. Each party has no interest in the success of the other party if the other party is in power -- and so to hell with the country. Rush "I hope he'll fail" Limbaugh is the textbook example.
Do you see any solutions? Taken to its logical conclusion, this system does not bode well for America's future.
@10: Yeah, 1984 has been the Republican playbook since the early nineties, and they started getting really good around '98. Fucking FOX. :-/
You guys were tweaking out about health care, etc.
Not to mention, you losers STILL only control half of Congress. Obama's not been as good for conservatives as you may like to think; the best you've gotten is that chunks of America have gone ahead and blamed Bush's mess on the black guy.
10, 25: Ironically(?), the ideology of "The Party" in 'Nineteen Eighty-Four' was called IngSoc (for English Socialism).
Interestingly, Orwell is quoted (via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Ei…) as writing:
My recent novel [Nineteen Eighty-Four] is NOT intended as an attack on Socialism or on the British Labour Party (of which I am a supporter), but as a show-up of the perversions . . . which have already been partly realized in Communism and Fascism. . . . The scene of the book is laid in Britain in order to emphasize that the English-speaking races are not innately better than anyone else, and that totalitarianism, if not fought against, could triumph anywhere. (emphasis mine)
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