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800 Maynard Ave S, Suite 200, Seattle, WA 98134
800 Maynard Ave S, Suite 200, Seattle, WA 98134
I call bullshit on this statement. Could it possibly that the store manager stayed closed because they were considering their employee's safety? Not everyone works in the same neighborhood where they live. Most responsible employers tell their employees not to put their safety in danger trying to work when the roads are a mess.
But really, Chris, don't slam on the store managers. Tons of local businesses closed early on Monday and/or did not open on Tuesday because travel conditions were so treacherous. If a store manager tells his employees to stay home out of concern for their safety, there is NOTHING wrong with that.
And yes, we (the state), can really use the money, even if you think it's being wasted.
Instead of sending your "friend" around to various stores to find out if they're open, you could use the state's handy web site for locating liquor stores, telling you their hours and providing you with a phone number by which you can contact them and find out if they're closed due to all the ice everywhere. And further, if you're particularly pissed off, you could call the district manager of the store and complain. Let's see how far that shit gets you with Costco.
http://www.liq.wa.gov/homepageServices/s…
Fortunately, the Ballard store was open and well stocked yesterday, but I feel for people elsewhere in the city.
Death to the WSLCB.
BUY YER FUCKIN' LIKKER before THE GODDAMNED SNOWSTORM HITS.
Seriously, any adult in this day-and-age who doesn't have the presence of mind to maintain a reasonably well-stocked bar has only themselves to blame.
Now, time to pour another Bunnahabhain...
But you don't have to agree with them either. And I say that as a union member.
What I think is funny is that if they privatized liquor store sales, a lot of the sales would probably still be done by unionized employees (QFC, Safeway, Albertsons) or sold by stores that have good working conditions in part to avoid the unions (Costco). Sure there would be the Wal-Marts, and the mom-and-pops, but the former is what it is, and the later would never be unionized anyway.
But the thing that really got to me in the anti-privatization campaign was how cheesy and paternalistic the ads were. Anytime they drag out "the children" to make a point, you know there's not much of a point to be made.
OK let's stop right here. Raise your hand if you see the contradiction.
Unless you live near a dodgey Chinese takeaway. Then you can buy horrible wine at 3am.
Yes, enforcement should be reformed. Yes, sales should be private. Yes, there's a way for the state not to lose revenue making these things happen.
But no, the fact that some liquor stores were closed during snowy days is not evidence of all of the above. If that's the strongest argument you have, I hope you stay out of the debate. There were plenty of private businesses that were closed the past couple of days, too. There's no guarantee that a private liquor store would have been open to serve you. Your argument is ridiculous, so you shouldn't be surprised that it's attracting ridicule.
For example:
You're presenting that as a systemic problem instead of something that happened to you one time. Not exactly compelling evidence of corruption.
And Fnarf, don't be a jackass. Just because somebody can smell a lame argument doesn't mean he's opposing the conclusions.
Agreed. After walking into a grocery store outside of Philly, looking around for 10 minutes trying to find the beer section, then being told "we don't sell that", THEN trying a gas station, THEN a mom-&-pop store, and finally being told "go to a bar", I have little to complain about when it comes to the considerably more reasonable system in WA.
.. and i don't agree with ' the voters' either. so i have my stash that i bought either on days when 'the voters' could care less about booze ( like the few days after halloween ) or get what i want form others who bootleg it up here when they visit we did this for years with absinthe and are likely to do it with aquavit . (did you know that the wslb routinely decides which liquors stores can stock or sell ? do the other 'voters' know this ?
Just keep pressuring them to do SOMETHING instead of waiting for the next inevitable initiative.
@4 i also have had regular occasion to call christopher 'friend'
@30: Snowstorm? Seriously? The one that's been going on for THREE days? That one?
One of my friends made a similar pilgrimage. Apparently the line was ridiculous and people were kept outside despite the fact the store wasn't that crowded.: http://www.flickr.com/photos/md76/
http://www.hulu.com/watch/4163/saturday-…
After we walked up to 23rd to find the store closed, we bought a ton of groceries at Trader Joe's and Madison Market, then my friend bought cigarettes at the Shell across from TJs, then we went to the store on 12th, which had a busy tone on its phone line and was closed, then I called Christopher from Nube Green (open), because I knew he had an interest in the subject, then we went to Broadway, where the scene was lively around 1:30 pm, bought bourbon, and walked home, stopping off for a drink at Liberty. So, that's five open businesses out of five on the non-liquor store side, and one open Cap Hill/CD liquor store out of three.
I'm left imagining the open, cheerful, creatively stocked liquor store a Capitol Hill resident is about to open in the wake of I-1100 passing, in an alternate universe. It would look something like this: http://www.fullthrottlebottles.com/
It's one thing to be against 1100 for whatever reason, but it takes a special kind of fucklip to be against it and then pretend you're for it now.
Slip and fall, Will, slip and fall.
But really, Frizzelle, you couldn't find an open bar on such a social occasion? It's the Snopocolypse! Even stranger-averse Seattlites let you in when they're all subjected to the same ridiculous inconvenience. My local was open (thank God!), and I've never seen it so social. You missed out, you drink-at-home drunk.
distribution trucks unable to get up capitol hill + a store (publicly OR privately owned) decides to close or open early or late during a (admittedly, relative to seattle) weather emergency = corruption, power abuse & disrespect?
Thanks for the giggle, SLOGger.
"Seriously, any adult in this day-and-age who doesn't have the presence of mind to maintain a reasonably well-stocked bar has only themselves to blame." + can't figure out how to go to a bar when everyone else could handle it no problem. = FTW. Stock your gawddamn bar, you uncouth anti-social loser. Or make friends with someone who knows how to stock a bar, and mooch off them / offer to buy a bottle from their home bar. It's. Not. Rocket. Science.
oh, and, while your political/policy points have validity,
Sorry about your bitterness about the whole democracy thing. Your horse lost. Deal.
No guarantee, sure. But if we had private liquor stores there would undoubtedly be many more of them than the number of state liquor stores, increasing the likelihood that one or more would have been open in the area where Frizzelle was.
53/Smell: Anyone who wants to throw liquor store employees out of work should be thrown out of work themselves in today's economy and see how they like it.
If Washington had an agency that strictly regulated everyone's sex life and there was a movement to abolish it and give people sexual freedom, you'd be arguing against it on the grounds that it would throw the sex cops out of work, that preserving their jobs was more important than individual choice and freedom.
Love this. Genius.