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Redistribution of wealth is normal and good. I hate hearing how it has become a talking point synonymous with evil. Wealth collects in the darndest places like cities and greedy money grubbing assholes and it needs to be set free from time to time. Set the money free!
You do like freedom don't you?
Redistribution of wealth is normal and good. I hate hearing how it has become a talking point synonymous with evil. Wealth collects in the darndest places like cities and greedy money grubbing assholes and it needs to be set free from time to time.
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Hey Now! Your kinda generalizing. Snohomish county is one of King's little brothers.
Perhaps, if voters broadly understood their true self-interest, there would be broader support for funding things like K-12 at an adequate level, instead of just fighting for levy equalization to benefit their own children while starving school districts of funds in the county that foots the bulk of the bill.
Sorry.
Also, I agree with the first two comments.
I think the point here is that the predominantly Republican voting, redistributed-wealth-receiving counties SCREW THE REST OF US by voting for ass-backward policies like refusing to approve a high-income earner income tax and voting for whatever Tim Eyman is promoting.
I don't think that just because we pay we say, but I do think that we need to publish these kinds of statistics on billboards all over Eastern Washington whenever assholes like Clint Didier get all high and mighty about being self-sufficient. They are self-sufficiently helping themselves to my wallet. I'm sick of being labeled a "206er" with a sneer, like somehow it's bad to be the ones funding everyone else.
The redistribution of wealth on this particular chart is likely due to the Levy Equalization law. I kind of want that to end, but I don't want them to be even stupider over in Ea. Wa.
This is no different than taxing the rich to pay for schools.
And then watch as the rest of them flounder around without funding for their empty roads.
What on Earth wouldn't be fair about that? Republicans should be ALL for this. Everyone pays their way equally then. If you have a special thing to pay out, like a bridge or deep bore tunnel, you make it a special bit of legislation. This would also let each county do their own thing. If someone wants to live in tax-free wooded squalor, screw it--why fight with them over it? More power to you, dude. You can have that out in Garfield County, or wherever, and then back here in King we're free to tax ourselves liberally for the infrastructure and projects we want.
To each their own.
I like this. It will be nice to see this a little more parsed.
I chose K-12 spending because it was representative of the broader rev/exp ratio, and due to the way money the is spent (granted to local school districts) there is no question about where the benefit for the dollars spent should be credited. (Unlike, say, higher ed spending, where it's hard to determine how much of the benefit falls within the county where the university is located, or the county from which the students hail. Same with prisons.)
I'm not making a moral argument that King should get back benefits dollar for dollar. I'm just pointing out that King and a handful of other counties broadly subsidize the rest of the state.
then when the rich counties get taxed
you squeal like bitches....
@23 what are you talking about? Unless we're looking at different charts, Yakima, Spokane, Pierce, Clark, and (lesser degree) Benton are making out here like bandits. King County is completely and unfairly screwed over, and every single county except for Whatcom, and Skagit appear negative?
What happens when we apply this universally across all sources of money paid back to the state: vehicle fees, sales taxes, liquor fees/taxes, property, B&O, everything else? How much does King County get fucked at the drive-thru then?
Obviously, this inequality of taxes paid vs. revenue received is something the people in the smaller, poorer counties need to have pointed out to them. But Americans generally have been voting completely against their own best interests for something like 20 years now. The education must take place on a much larger scale...
When they actually have to pay for those benefits, I hope they come to their senses... Either that, or they'll run themselves into the ground. Kinda like Colorado Springs:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_143034…
Based on what I can vaguely recall from my own research into this question years ago, King County gets back roughly equal to what it pays when you factor in total spending (e.g., transportation, social services, etc.). So, you may want to be a bit cautious before you generalize from just the education money.
Goldy is using the rhetoric of the "Right" to make a point. Obviously he was much too subtle... ;)
I'll post the source document with my more thorough piece on the issue, but according to this data, King is indeed a net contributor count, and by a wide margin. Even with DSHS expenditures.
There's nothing inherently inconsistent about arguing the state should spend less in the cities when the rural areas are already being subsidized by the cities. The fact is, a lot of rural people don't like cities (I've hear all of the following in my years in the sticks: too many queers, too much crime, too many crazy people, too dirty, too secular, wrong family values, wrong skin color, wrong religion, wrong political party, too much traffic,) and see tax dollars spent in them as a big waste.
Since "those people" aren't going to do anything sensible with the money, might as well give it to the right thinking folks in the provinces - you know, God's people, the ones who grow your food and who will survive the coming apocalypse. This thinking is the norm outside the coastal cities. Rural conservatives aren't dumb; in the context of their world-view, urbanites are worthy of only pity or contempt and there's nothing morally wrong with taking their tax money.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/sh…
http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/
1. Stop ALL government spending - EXCEPT spending that personally benefits themselves and their friends.
2. Cut ALL taxes - EXCEPT taxes for people they and their friends personally dislike?
I always assumed that republicans were selfish and greedy. Can I just make that assumption a truth then?
Are rural republican really so inhuman and callous? I've never lived in the sticks (unless Tallahassee counts... which it might) so I don't know too many of those people, but are they really that bad?
1. You'd never hear it put that way, but yes.
2. No, on this the advocacy is consistent - cut all taxes. "Starve the beast" is the operative phrase. (The fiscal austerity sideshow is all about spending cuts and is entirely driven by a desire to keep the economy in the tank through November 2012.)
Do you intend irony when you call rural republicans "inhuman"? They are as human as you, and prone to the same tribal tendency to dehumanize the other, the people they don't know. Or did you mean "inhumane" as in lacking compassion? Those I've known are very compassionate to those within their circle; they just draw a different line as to who is worthy of compassion than I do.
if you homosexuals want a bigger piece of the pie you need to stop screwing each other and start reproducing.
in the meantime thank the breeders who are raising the kids who will grow up to change your shitty diapers while you drool on yourself in the home where the other homos dump you when you're no longer buff.....
This chart just looks at public school funding, but if you read the post you'd see that the same ratio of revenues paid to benefits received is reflected in state spending across the board.
yes dear, we know.
you liberals are always screaming for the rich to be taxed.
the richest county in the state is being taxed and you squeal like a bitch.
careful what you wish for.
asshole.
Goldy, you seem to have either lost three digits from King's state K-12 funding or said billion when you meant million.
I presume that it's the former, not the latter.
Yes, I was missing three zeros. That's what I get for copying and pasting from a spreadsheet where the values represented thousands. Fixed it.
Then we can tax the hell out of the whiny liberals for fruit and vegetables and wine, ship everything through the Columbia and gut the only real outgoing customer the port of Seattle has, and charge out of state costs for all the elitist assholes from King County who buy vacation cabins near farms and complain about the tractor noise.
Yeah. I like this idea of teaching those folks from Eastern Washington a lesson. Of course, the lesson would be how much better off they are without the big government expenses out of Western Washington, but hey, a lesson is a lesson.
I think you can assume that 36 is one of two things. He is a liberal pretending to be conservative (badly.) Or he is a fringe lunatic. Either way he isn't representative.
What you can assume is that conservative want government to act within the very limited sphere of powers they were granted by our federal and state constitutions. You can assume that they want government to live within its' means just as the taxpayer must. You can assume that they are sufficiently busy taking responsibility for their family and career choices without being asked to provide for those of others. You can assume that they think slowly eroding the thrift, good sense and need for planning of the people of the nation by various welfare programs is a poor idea, particularly if it's done on borrowed money.
I can and do assume that even far left fringe elements like Goldy want the best for this country. I can assume that if he has children he wants them to grow up in place made better than it was when he was growing up. I can assume that he is wrong about nearly everything, but that he isn't malicious, just wrong.
Wait...oh, he got the sack. I thought that all Americans loved progressive politics, so that can't be. It must be a mistake.
Nope. One more fact challenged lefty goes down in flames. Best of luck Keith. I hear health insurance sales are booming since we all are forced to purchase it whether we need it or want it. You might try that as a career move.