But what about the Salmon?

Can they telecommute too? Why can't they get 100Gbps speeds like they get in South Korea?

It looks like Mayor McGinn is very aware of his 'feng shui'.

"Time for Frizzelle to hit the liquor store."

That would be this "snow and ice plan" -- http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/do… -- right?

The one that puts a mere 12 roads at "Level 1 priority: all lanes bare and wet."

The one that includes Market/46th from Ballard to Wallingford as one of those bare-and-wet (i.e. traversable as normal) roads.

The one that still, somehow, left Ballard with zero transit service to the east for more than 3 days last time.

That one, right?

@4 or you could just take the 15 and 18 and then get on the 5, 8, 26, 28, 30 or any of the 7x series.

But that would require planning and stuff.

@4 Am I really the only person within Seattle city limits that managed to get around by a combination of bus/foot/transit/car? And at the same time, not throw a hissy fit on the Slog about not having any liquor?

Get ready to set up your video camera at the bottom of Queen Anne hill...

@5: I know that most of what spews from your fingers is ill-considered idiocy and not worth dignifying with a response, but...

Do you by any chance recall how well all of those other routes functioned during the Thanksgiving-week storm? There was no schedule and it was often an hour between buses. Metro's system won't report real-time info during crises, rendering OneBusAway moot.

Taking public transit anywhere was a nightmare last time; detouring 5 miles out of the way and waiting for two fucked-up routes would have been insanity.

Had SDOT adhered to any part of its so-called "plan" above, major routes could have proceeded as normal. Y'know, like in every other steep and wintry city on earth.

@8 yes, cause I took the bus then.

W(h)ine much?

by the way the snow routes are online - they're even on the online maps.

it was only the online bus to go app that didn't sync up.

the main probs were any bus lines on I-5 and SR-90 and SR-99 - which are state and federal highways.

@6: On foot the last storm's aftermath was perfectly fine, even up Phinney Ridge. The snow was compacted and easy to tread and perfectly serene, like the lull after an East Coast storm.

But if you actually needed to be anywhere beyond walking range, Metro was a fucking disaster.

@10: Read(ing comprehension) much?

An online snow-route map doesn't much matter if the line isn't running at all!

Metro shut off its real-time feed entirely, so even regular-routed buses disappeared from OneBusAway.

The "main probs" were every bus line -- even those on streets that SDOT's plan pledged to keep clear.

Word cloud or it didn't happen.

Hey Seattlites, other cities have subways, but you choose a football and a baseball stadium. You wanted to be champions. What times the kickoff/first pitch tomorrow?

@14: You're right, of course, but it's not just about the subways.

Every city experiences disruption in moderate-to-heavy snow. But what "Will (Who Encapsulates Everything Wrong With The Way People Use Their Brains) In Seattle" fails to understand is that everywhere else, when the storm ends, so does the disruption. Streets get plowed and de-iced, in order of importance and as well as they need to be for people to get through and the transit to run. This is true even in cities like D.C. with comparatively little snow-coping infrastructure.

That we could have 48 hours of clear, cold, calm consistency after the last flake has fallen and not have touched the very streets highlighted on the city's own map -- http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/do… -- which happened in November, is completely absurd. That Will and his ilk think we should spend all day waiting for the bus 3 days after the storm is even worse.

@4,

The 44 begins/ends at the UW Medical Center. Was 45th between Wallingford and the U District clear last time?

I'm not trying to defend Metro (it's a joke in good weather), but SDOT hardly helps matters.

#3 FTW

Kesh @16:

Oh, I totally blame SDOT for last time. Sure, it would be nice if Metro would continue to provide real-time feed in times of strained service, but as far as the service itself goes, SDOT gave them practically nothing to work with.

> Was 45th between Wallingford and the U District clear last time?

Beats the hell out of me. That's the flat(ter) part, and SDOT has it listed as a #2 priority -- one lane each direction "bare and wet," i.e. no ice and thus no worries about wheel traction -- on the road-clearance map to which I linked @4 & @15. But since they never followed through with anything in their plan, who knows?

My first choice when it snows and I can't get around IS TO FUCKING BLAME EVERYONE ELSE EXCEPT ME!! I mean clearly my inability to plan ahead is your fault and not mine.

Libertarian douche @19:

That's why people organize themselves in "cities," which usually (Seattle excepted) "plan ahead" by putting a "system" in place to "fucking keep the streets clear."

Because we can no more individually plan ahead to keep the city functioning than we can individually treat our our own sewage.

@12 um, guys, you're supposed to know they change the bus routes when it snows.

Other things that don't work during major snowfalls - state and federal highways, apparently.

@16 if you wanted to get to Wallingford, the 30 and 31 bus routes were running fine on snow routes and they actually go on N 45th for a few blocks between Wallingford Ave N and Stone Way N.

And from the 30 which goes to the U Dist you can get to Fremont and ride the 28 to Market and 8th.

Or you can just go downtown and then catch a 15 or 18 or ... (fill in all the routes that go to the rest of Ballard)

@21: "You're supposed to know they change the bus routes when it snows."

What part of "wasn't running at all" are you too stupid to understand, Will?

@33: "...bus routes were running fine on snow routes..."

If you think running hourly with no schedule on uncleared roads with chains on the tires two days after the last flake has fallen is "running fine," then I literally can't help you.

@21: "You're supposed to know they change the bus routes when it snows."

What part of "wasn't running at all" are you too stupid to understand, Will?

@22: "...[other] bus routes were running fine on snow routes..."

If you think running hourly with no schedule on uncleared roads with chains on the tires two days after the last flake has fallen is "running fine," then I literally can't help you.