8 If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
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scathe, v: harm; injure
That's how dangerous it is to show your cleavage, ladies.
It's the fellas that need a garment not the ladies. I recommend this:
Just think of how many people we could save from dying of testicular cancer, too.
So, Christians admit it: Born This Way.
jenesasquatch, that wooden model is rather lovely, and I hope you appreciate my "resisting the urge" to make a really bad pun...(see, we women have urges, too... :)
But may I just add: Ouch!
Offensive to either sex.
That doesn't mean I find a burka hot either, I just find modestly dressed women much more physically attractive than someone who gets all dolled up to the point where they probably spent more time getting ready to go out than they spent going out. It's their right, and I'm not going to tell them not to do it, nor will I do the typical "OMG SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT", just not my thing.
And considering that just about all of them are undersexed because they fear and loathe women, I can't say I'm sympathetic.
i spent my entire childhood, adolescence, and young adulthood in a church like this. there are so, so, so many things that are fucked up about it, but right now i'll just say that one of the nice things about being an apostate is losing their ridiculous vocabulary. "exhortation" is a good example. when i was 15, i learned that my "spritual gift" was exhortation. read: nosy bitch can't stop telling people what to do. GAWD the church sucks.
Tonight, I shall be entertaining a lovely young lady, and role-playing as her Southern Baptist father who has to spank her for neglecting to have me screen her wardrobe and thus embarrassing me with a knee-length skirt at church.
So thanks once again, my brothers in Christ for your spirit-filled, fetish-generating video. Soli Deo gloria!
Have a feeling it wasn't...
As for me, from now on I will be wearing nothing but a spandex body-stocking, so that I don't fall victim to your double-edged praise of "modesty".
I'll be kicking it with my fellow whore-ladies who respect their bodies. I'm sorry for the outburst, but whoa, that vid pissed me off.
Peace be with you.
It's a lost cause - back in Victorian times boys would hang out on street corners to catch a peak at women's ankles and shins as they lifted their full length skirts to step up on the curb.
I tried to get right on that for you but now I feel sleepy. Nap time and then I need to go buy a new keyboard.
That video was a bunch of lol, seriously. That dude needs to get laid. He keeps talking about "if only women could understand what they're doing to us men, and what lust we're capable of" and I have to laugh, because he's assuming that women have no libido. Maybe that's just your wife, buddy, because when I see an attractive man in a tight shirt, oh, man, my mind goes places your Bible would definitely disapprove of.
By about day 2 of burning man after seeing more actual boobs then in all my life put together, my reaction progressed from speechless pavlovian drooling to casual appreciation ("Love your hat! Your boobs look great, too.")
I know what you mean. After watching the complete "L Word" series I thought if I ever see 2 lesbians go at it again I'm going to put a gun in my mouth.
But that wacky creator made us all lustful tools, just so he could torment us every day of our lives until we finally die and go sing a lustless eternity before him. Yay!
But what he doesn't realize is that he and his church have NO right to place pressure, however covert, on girls and women to conform to some idea of 'godly' modesty. THAT is where he and his ilk cross the line, and that is why we must fight these motherf*ckers with everything we've got.
Thank goodness loose-fitting cargo shorts were in style.
Why does he whisper at the end? Is he trying to be sexy?
Why the rap music? Hilarious.
I'd actually be interested in knowing what these delightful slut-shaming Christians consider to be "modest" clothing, because the video doesn't really address that. Is it being able to see a woman's knees? Thighs? Cleavage? Being able to tell she has the breasts, hips and buttocks of a sexually mature woman? Too much eye-catching glitter?
This makes no fucking sense to me at all, especially that as an unfortunate side effect of being female I have been sexually harassed by men way too often, including while wearing some pretty non-sexy things--a sweater and jeans, bulky winter peacoat, even a middle school gym uniform. I guess my glorious A-cups are just too much for my brothers in Christ to be around without breaking down and yelling obscene things at me. I guess I'm just a Slutty McSlutface and I shouldn't leave my dorm until I build myself a protective, wearable cocoon of Bibles!
(PS: plastic keyboard covers are proof that god loves you and wants you to be happy, BTW...!)
seandr, I feel sorry for you guys, always at the mercy of a slim ankle. Thank goodness I don't go to the mall just to look at the Abercrombie shopping bags, that would be so wrong.
I am no better a person whether I wear the hijab or not. If I took it off today that would not determine my status as a Muslim. However that decision, MY CHOICE, is not determined by what some "crazed, lust driven" men would like.
If the churches were full of women in cute raver outfits and bootie shorts and thigh-high stocking and tall boots and low neck blouses, I would seriously rethink my position on the existence of god. At the very least, I'd be spending a good deal of my Sundays "at worship".
Props to you, babe. Just like a woman who chooses to wear sweaters and long skirts aren't repressed prudes.
Work that hijab. *cues catwalk music*
Guys who harass women ruin it for everybody. I hate those guys.
It's a blessing and curse.
Now what about those guys who lie around the lawn in shorts and no shirt on hot days? Do they get in trouble too? Because you can be damn sure that they're tempting me. Not that I mind.
*reads the comments on that link*
Nice to see the victim-blaming slut-shamers are out in full force.
Not sure I agree with that, but I think we can all agree that shirtcocking should be banned.
Btw, I am one of those guys that applaud effort. I hate those body-Nazis that think a woman has to be a Victoria's Secret model to have the right to dress sexy. The heck with that! I say work it, girls - everybody who wants to.
Be good everyone, and don't do anything I wouldn't do.
@ 8 Interesting! Enjoy.
Why sign up for such a sadistic clusterfuck notion of divinity?
To equate sexual temptation with certain death and damnation and then show a mother lovingly tossing her child in the air? Seriously, people, it's called critical thinking. If you fuck her in your mind you burn, but if you fuck her pregnant it's divine? Whatever.
I simply don't get it.
And I grew up surrounded by this self-hating, obsessive, paranoid, stupid bullshit.
And I still don't get it.
Um, it's called maturity. It's what happens when you learn to deal with sex and "urges". Sorry, guys, you don't get to blame anything on women. If you are thinking about sex so much that you can't walk across campus without praying to Jesus about your urges, then maybe you are a sex addict and should seek help.
Btw- I know for a fact that no matter what I wear, guys are going to look. I have big boobs, a decent ass and a great set of legs. I'm not a bikini model, but I'm pretty damn cute. Males have been looking since I got my tits and they'll still be looking until I'm too old to be thought of in that way. Men like to look at pretty ladies. That's life. Get over it.
Be well. I will think of you (and your socks, obviously --it's what we do).
May the scalpel be discerning and much smarter than the hand that guides it... which should make it pretty doggone wise. You will be in my thoughts as well. I hope a shot of whisky is soon in your hand to celebrate progress.
I've only left to decide if I'm putting my hair into a single French braid or two like Ms. Dorthy in the "Wizard of Oz", as long hair has its downsides... 'Talk' to you all when I"m not on narcotics.
"Dad, can I wear these crotchless panties while slow dancing to Eve 6?"
"When she dresses immodestly... there is a constant battle going on as I'm talking with her; communication becomes more difficult, because, as I'm trying to listen to her, I'm also trying to fight temptation."
Jesus fucking christ, really? I've never had a problem carrying on a conversation with even people I find extremely attractive; have other people? This is spooky as shit.
The whole idea that Christian men struggle with lust because women are so DAMN SEXY has always bothered me, even back when I bought into the whole religion thing lock stock and barrel. I was raised Southern Baptist, but I made it out remarkably unscathed.
But... But... But...
Then how will the church control womens' sexualities than by beating them over the head with their innate fear of being raped?
Maybe someone should make a satirical reply about how music is too much of a sexual temptation, that every human should struggle to not listen to music, to avoid it all costs.
Or all forms of touch. No hugging, no hand shaking, nothing. Too much of a temptation, too dangerous.
Could you make a parady along these lines to illustrate that only the mentally ill fear--to the point of obsessive avoidance yet preoccupation--life's beauty and joys, and that one's sense of visual beauty is as vital to being fully alive as is hearing music, touching another's skin, etc?
The problem with it would be how distracting it would be...
I only thought of this now, after having checked to see how many new comments there were.
Well, you see, women have to do their part with the modest clothing. Because, men (or boys, the poor, frustrated, innocent dears) cannot control their urges when faced with all of this exposed flesh. Now, if the church were to acknowledge that there's nothing wrong about urges (none of this nasty temptation innuendo) and recognized that there are ways to temper and relieve these urges with a little application of a right (or left) hand, this would not be perceived as such a moral crisis.
Alas, touching oneself for the purpose of sexual pleasure is an enormously selfish NO-NO so, working backwards, ALL women must dress modestly. Uh, someone should inform the church that most boys and men will get urges no matter if there's a female form flashing skin in front of them or not. As the saying goes, "I'm 16. I'll get turned on by linoleum."
I hope that video self-combusts from hypocrisy.
So, I'll admit I'm a little slow today. When you talked about knee-high socks, I thought you were just being clever with the whole non-ankle-flashing thing; but, then, the immodest backless gown caught me by surprise. I thought you really were talking about a lovely summer frock (well, they do come in cotton, too). And that the date with the surgeon was a date-date.
Oops! I now think I have the full picture, including your two braids under that unflattering fabric mesh cap, right?
I'll join the chorus (in tune, I hope) of Sloggers who will await your return soon!
What always amazes me is that these men refuse to believe that it's possible to control one's own lusts - they could easily ask us women how we are able to still get things done when we encounter attractive men in our daily lives, but first they would have to acknowledge that women experience lust and that our opinions and experiences are of any consequence whatsoever.
But no matter...modest, immodest, exposed or covered, women are an object of men's lust, and this is a stupid little game that we can never possibly hope to win...so let's stop playing - no more defining how we dress as modest/immodest, no more slut-shaming other women, no more letting men blame us for their behaviour, no more putting up with them trying to control us instead of controlling themselves.