@ 2 The point isn't that women don't have brains, it's that the people who would buy a set of these don't care if they do.
But before everyone gets all PC on us: I was once given a pair of penis salt and pepper shaker for X-mas (by a lesbian friend, at that!); white penis for the salt, black for the pepper. And yes, the pepper shaker was bigger than the salt shaker.
Funny thing, though: no one ever said "that's sexist!" - or "that's racist!", for that matter. So why should these be considered any more sexist?
I know there's no point to asking this question, but I can't stop myself:
Seriously, why would they make them without heads?
It's almost the only thing I can imagine making me want a titty salt and pepper shaker set less. It's like they weren't even trying to make a real product, here.
Gross: those breasts are each as big as the entire rest of the torso.
@2: Less that they don't have brains, more along the lines of dehumanizing women and constructing them as only sex objects by chopping representations of them into pieces that are recognizable as sexual objects but not as complete people in visual media (think about all of the adverts you see that show only a part - a normatively-sexualized part - of a woman's body in-frame). Good enough, or do you want more? I could probably find a paper I wrote on the subject, if you'd like ten to twenty pages. Not worth my time to go on a rant now, though, as I think they're significantly more gross and stupid (well, I don't think they're particularly sexy, clever, pretty, or interesting, so I don't really see the point) than sexist.
I actually thought that consisted of two arms going around two heads (with the body's own head hidden behind the two you could see) at first.
@6 it's not really sexist in the same sense that we don't (in this culture) suffer from heterophobia. The group in power and all that. OTOH -- racist as hell, yeah.
Those remind me (I'm just putting this out there in case anyone's in a baking mood) that if you're making gingerbread women, that mini marshmallows and those tiny cinnamon hearts can be icinged together to make excellent tits. Just so you know.
You're in the Antique Mall! I went to school in Lawrence, it is a great little town. I hope you enjoy your stay.
If you get a chance, go get black bean quesadillas, the cheddar ale soup, and some John Brown porter down the street at the Free State Brewing Company. Best damn soup on the planet.
Really, though, I don't see any genitalia on these items, so we don't know they're supposed to be women. The titties are removable, so wouldn't the more logical assumption be that they are drag queens?
This is exactly how Seattleblues would decorate if not for the civilizing influence of women, which is why all gay men live in filthy hovels covered with pornography.
Interesting comment @ 30! Gay men have their own built-in 'civilizing influence', and thence, don't need a real woman around to prevent our innate savagery in decorating. Except in the bedroom- then it's nothing but pure animalism.
Sorry about the SB/Loveschild creature. Poor thing.
Huh. I saw those as dicephalic conjoined twin salt and pepper shakers, albeit with poor nose development on each head and some kind of anxiety disorder causing the twins to wrap their arms around their heads.
@21: Quantrill's is no more... that space is now occupied by a sushi restaurant.
@Dan: I would totally reimburse you the price plus shipping (and a finder's fee) if you were to pick one of these up for me! I would treasure it always as a souvenir from my hometown. Of course, I know you have much better things to do with your time in Larry.
YES! Yes, I absolutely, most definitely NEED a pair of headless lady salt and pepper titty shakers!!!! It's exactly the kind of thing my father would love (it would complement his titty mug - where you sip from the nipple), and exactly the kind of thing my mother would find completely crass and disgusting.
Please, please won't you give me a pair of headless lady salt and pepper titty shakers for Easter? It would make going home for the holiday SO MUCH MORE ENTERTAINING!
YES! Yes, I absolutely, most definitely NEED a pair of headless lady salt and pepper titty shakers!!!! It's exactly the kind of thing my father would love (it would complement his titty mug - where you sip from the nipple), and exactly the kind of thing my mother would find completely crass and disgusting.
Please, please won't you give me a pair of headless lady salt and pepper titty shakers for Easter? It would make going home for the holiday SO MUCH MORE ENTERTAINING!
OMG! My dad NEEDS one of those, Dan! He always brings home at least one raunchy souvenir from his travels, but I don't suspect his globetrotting will take him through Lawrence any time soon. I would so pay you back if you picked one up.
As far as I'm concerned, extreme bad taste is an art form, and as such it goes beyond any notion of sexism, racism or any other -ism, since it wouldn't be bad taste if it didn't push precisely those buttons.
@ 12 - That was the mid 80's, before political correctness reared its ugly head. That's why nobody said it. We still had a sense of humour back then. We all knew it was silly, and we realized that the size of the black shaker was part of the joke.
And let's be honest here: most often, it's men who reduce themselves to their penis. (Want proof? Log into Manhunt)
The holes are gigantic - I don't see how you could use them to season anything without dumping a ton of salt or pepper on whatever food you were eating.
I'll pass. I prefer that my adulty novelty table accessories be a little more practical. Thanks though.
@23: Filing this information away for the up coming holiday season.
@27: Your logic is irrefutable and comforting.
@30: I heart you.
In general I find the vogue in novelty "art" for disarticulated bits of women crass at the very least, and disturbing for the same reasons John Horstman has put forward @13.
@46--yes, it would be way better if the legs were spread.
How exactly can someone be offended by something this kitschy? And call it sexist? These look like they were made before we decided we all had to be politically correct and that we were supposed to be offended by certain things. They predate our current concept of sexist.
And I want one to send to my 90 year old auntie who has collected salt and pepper shakers her whole life. This is the first time I've ever seen a set that I'm pretty sure she doesn't have.
On first glance I mistook the middle one for a cock and balls. Maybe that deliberate ambiguity is the reason why no head, and also the reason why closed legs. The bent knees kind of undermine it, though.
@ 46 & 48 You mean her legs were spread in the sense of containing the butter dish? We are going after SOME attempt at "table usefulness in the guise of decoration", aren't we?
Dan, while you're there, raise a glass for the late, great Willian Burroughs. And when you get home, shoot an apple off of Terry's head. Successfully, though.
But before everyone gets all PC on us: I was once given a pair of penis salt and pepper shaker for X-mas (by a lesbian friend, at that!); white penis for the salt, black for the pepper. And yes, the pepper shaker was bigger than the salt shaker.
Funny thing, though: no one ever said "that's sexist!" - or "that's racist!", for that matter. So why should these be considered any more sexist?
Clearly they didn't want to make Jane Russell angry.
Two sets for the adults' table, two for the kids' table, and there's your Thanksgiving S&P needs, covered.
Seriously, why would they make them without heads?
It's almost the only thing I can imagine making me want a titty salt and pepper shaker set less. It's like they weren't even trying to make a real product, here.
@2: Less that they don't have brains, more along the lines of dehumanizing women and constructing them as only sex objects by chopping representations of them into pieces that are recognizable as sexual objects but not as complete people in visual media (think about all of the adverts you see that show only a part - a normatively-sexualized part - of a woman's body in-frame). Good enough, or do you want more? I could probably find a paper I wrote on the subject, if you'd like ten to twenty pages. Not worth my time to go on a rant now, though, as I think they're significantly more gross and stupid (well, I don't think they're particularly sexy, clever, pretty, or interesting, so I don't really see the point) than sexist.
It's as though the makers are saying, "Don't misunderstand me. I had the ceramic and the time..."
Too soon.
@6,13: It was really just a prediction of the comments to come.
@6 it's not really sexist in the same sense that we don't (in this culture) suffer from heterophobia. The group in power and all that. OTOH -- racist as hell, yeah.
Rock Chalk Dan. Enjoy Lawrence. While you're there stop by Topeka and give the Rev. Phelps a big kiss and then a kick to the balls.
Otherwise, not so much.
Just say no.
If you get a chance, go get black bean quesadillas, the cheddar ale soup, and some John Brown porter down the street at the Free State Brewing Company. Best damn soup on the planet.
Sorry about the SB/Loveschild creature. Poor thing.
Men - Hellz Yes!!
Women - that's tacky!
@Dan: I would totally reimburse you the price plus shipping (and a finder's fee) if you were to pick one of these up for me! I would treasure it always as a souvenir from my hometown. Of course, I know you have much better things to do with your time in Larry.
YES! Yes, I absolutely, most definitely NEED a pair of headless lady salt and pepper titty shakers!!!! It's exactly the kind of thing my father would love (it would complement his titty mug - where you sip from the nipple), and exactly the kind of thing my mother would find completely crass and disgusting.
Please, please won't you give me a pair of headless lady salt and pepper titty shakers for Easter? It would make going home for the holiday SO MUCH MORE ENTERTAINING!
YES! Yes, I absolutely, most definitely NEED a pair of headless lady salt and pepper titty shakers!!!! It's exactly the kind of thing my father would love (it would complement his titty mug - where you sip from the nipple), and exactly the kind of thing my mother would find completely crass and disgusting.
Please, please won't you give me a pair of headless lady salt and pepper titty shakers for Easter? It would make going home for the holiday SO MUCH MORE ENTERTAINING!
And let's be honest here: most often, it's men who reduce themselves to their penis. (Want proof? Log into Manhunt)
I'll pass. I prefer that my adulty novelty table accessories be a little more practical. Thanks though.
@27: Your logic is irrefutable and comforting.
@30: I heart you.
In general I find the vogue in novelty "art" for disarticulated bits of women crass at the very least, and disturbing for the same reasons John Horstman has put forward @13.
How exactly can someone be offended by something this kitschy? And call it sexist? These look like they were made before we decided we all had to be politically correct and that we were supposed to be offended by certain things. They predate our current concept of sexist.
And I want one to send to my 90 year old auntie who has collected salt and pepper shakers her whole life. This is the first time I've ever seen a set that I'm pretty sure she doesn't have.
Regardless, I want one. Totally.