A witness said the car was trying to turn left onto Thomas from Dexter when a line of oncoming cars began approaching. The driver speedily made the turn and hit the bicyclist, the witness said.
The driver sped through the intersection, they said, causing a terrific noise, before stopping briefly then taking off.
The reason we don't apply a $20 fee to bicycles is because the vast majority of cyclists barely use their bikes at all, or are children going around in circles in the driveway, etc. It is insane to demand a fee from those people, and if you did, casual bicycle use in the city would disappear, and almost all bike shops in the state, with their attendant business taxes, would disappear as well. You'd lose money on the deal. The devoted commuters wouldn't miss it but they are a tiny portion of the people who own bikes in the state.
It's kind of sad that no one is able to even imagine people living in circumstances other than their own anymore.
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THE MAYER MCSCHWINN WANTS EVERYONE TO RIDE BIKES! NOT EVERYONE CAN!
%6 is considered a huge success.. somehow people think trying to get to 6 = 99%
objectivism is apparently a non-partisan disease.
Why do you think that was?
Oh yeah, because people in places like that know how how to drive cars and ride bikes like people with functioning brains.
That whole "share the road" thing? It goes both ways. So don't be a dumb-ass in a car OR on a bike.
note: not defending the hit-and-run driver, just showing the tortured logic of this idiot.
Where I live in Sweden, most people in larger cities don't even own a car. It's not necessary and to expensive to park.
It's worth noting that Vancouver had its share of car-clinging whiners before this council was elected. The bike lanes were constructed amid furious criticism from the public and opposition council members. However, after living with the new lanes for a couple of years, there's been no noticeable affect on traffic (none of the predicted gridlock), yet we see more and more people on bikes.
The whiners in Seattle need to take a look at Vancouver, and in particular they need to talk with the former whiners who now have lost face and don't talk about the matter anymore. It can be done. It just takes a few leaders with balls to make the first move and not back down amid the predictable chorus of criticism.
I think that's why it's about speed.
The second most dangerous is right turners. I know 95% of Capitol Hill drivers watch for the bike lane. But even I'm guilty of this. You make a right turn and then think, "Shit. There's a bike lane and I didn't look." Generally, coming down the hill I just act like a car and don't even attempt the bike lane. It's too dangerous, and I can kind of keep up with traffic.
The third is busses. These monsters believe they ALWAYS deserve the right of way, even if they're going to bend a fender, maim a cyclist or run down a pedestrian by obtaining it. A couple of weeks ago a bus overtook me in the bike lane, then as it passed and needed to jump into my lane in order to make the stop on the next block, merged and forced me to slam on my brakes to avoid a collision.
When I caught up with him a moment later I angrily expressed my disappointment in his choice to disregard my safety.
"I saw you, but I had to get into my lane!" was his only defense.
This city is great for cycling. It's just not good for cyclists.
Apparently both the lycra-clad fanatics and the kids who come in WITH THEIR PARENTS are almost universally too cool for reflectors and ask that they be left off when their bikes are assembled.
As it turns out, the random bagful I got was still missing a couple of things I needed, so I went to the other nearby bike shop. Same story; got the remaining essential bits and pieces.
Standard practice in my dinky town: kids tear around on bikes after dark, in and out of alleys, wrong side of the street usually, no reflectors, no lights, dark clothing ('cuz that's cool too). Adults often ride wrong side of the street, day or night, scaring the shit out of right-turning drivers who were looking mainly left.
Cops turn a blind eye to it all.
They failed, it was gutted.
Interesting how Jon Scholes is singing the Council's praises and Meinert is confronting him on his priorities in the comments. The horse trading is fun, too, since the same citizen process Scholes says should guide us was more or less brushed aside for a lower-than-requested fee that cuts $460,000 in bike funding from the recommended $80 VLF level.
OH, POLITICS! <3
Let's make Seattle safer! Looks like the campaign we'll need to back is this one here: http://www.streetsforallseattle.org/ -- so approve proposition 1!
We owe it to ourselves to make Seattle a safer place :)
I'm not saying it's right, but it's the truth unless you want to die. Get a goddamn car, or start walking. You don't have to answer more than a couple token questions (if even that, depending on jurisdiction) about being alert for smaller wheeled traffic when you get your driver's license. People simply aren't prepared to see or yield to cyclists on major local 4-lane highways, with 50+mph speed limits.
There are no bike lanes in my suburb. Even better is seeing a bike on a 2-lane local road with no ability to pass (speed limit 45 or so). They're riding in the middle of the lane, because legally and safely they have to. Meanwhile there's a honking line behind it of 50 cars piloted by potentially unstable drivers, getting pissed off.
They're working on solutions for this, such as the bus islands they're adding on Dexter that eliminate the need for the bus to cross the bike lane to pick up passengers.
But until they eradicate the conflicts everywhere, you need to be cognizant that the dozens of passengers on that bus shouldn't be beholden to your chosen pace. If a bus is coming up behind you, let it pass, and if it stops in front of you, do not leapfrog. It will quickly put enough distance between you two to keep the conflict from recurring.
(When you play the leapfrog game, you usually appear in the driver's mirror just as he's checking for clearance to pull back out. Then he's obligated to wait for you to pass. He gets to his next stop 20 seconds later than he otherwise would, you pass him again, and the cycle repeats. Don't do it unless you want a busload of people resenting you.)
Cities are packed and compact in Europe, and especially in the Netherlands. Hell, I live in a city (Leiden) with a population the size of Eugene, Oregon (about 140,000 people) but which occupies less than 1/10 of the area. A normal biker can cycle around the whole urban perimeter in an hour; there's nowhere in town where a biker couldn't be in less than an hour. Considering how difficult it is to find parking downtown, it makes perfect sense here to either go by bike or use public transportation.
American cities are not like that. It's much rarer there than here that one lives within a reasonable, bikable distance from one's work, given how spread out American cities usuallly are. Because of this, despite its advantages, biking in America will remain for most people a healthy pastime, but not really a workable commuting solution. It's just the way cities developed in America.
Seattle needs an IGB for bikers.
"just because biking in Seattle sux and is lethal
Don't Give Up!
all you little HomoLiberal European wanna-bes
can grow up and move to Denmark!!"
you can use this idea for free, Danny.......
It is a toy.
What better bike lanes seperated from auto traffic enable, if you really look at the data, is that people who are not hardcore cyclists, such as women, children and the elderly, are able to use bikes for short trips: http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/co… This is the main reason why more European urban dwellers cycle, and why drivers are more conditioned to look for and accept cyclists as part of traffic. With a seperate bike lane, cycling becomes a much more accessible and common form of transportation.
This doesn't, as we Americans often falsely assume, mean that Europeans don't own cars or use public transit, i.e. rely exclusively or near-exclusively on a bike.
you humanists worship Darwin
but then when natural selection
thins your asses out of the population you squeal....
SUVs are at the top of the food chain.
bikers are snacks.
More to the point of biking in Seattle, back before I had a drivers' license I would bike around the neighborhood. I would often end up wherever I was going wet. I can understand why people would prefer getting wherever they are going both dry and on their own schedule.
Example after example shows that if you build safe cycling infrastructure, people will use it. And it's so, so much cheaper than roads built to withstand vehicle weights.
Yes, it's so HOMOLIBERAL not spending $5 a gallon on gas. Excellently made point, sir, you're really taking us to task on such a very pressing social issue. You keep on keeping on using that SUV as a scooter to haul your obese ass down the block. Fight the man!
>having no idea how natural selection works
But I do wish you'd all wear helmets. And I wish you'd be more careful going downhill, Particularly on Pike/Pine. You go too fast, dears. Older people like myself, who really do try to keep an eye out for you, find that when you're flying down the hill, you're harder to spot when we go to make a turn.
As for the buses, I don't ride the bus and I don't bike, so I'm a neutral observer. But it seems to me that buses, like trains, are hard to stop - all that momentum, and such. - and when they do stop on a dime, they throw everyone in the bus around. I'd just advise you keep your distance from them.
I do wish Philly would go even further, or at least have the police enforce people blocking bike lanes.
@11 - couldn't agree more. I can't tell you how upsetting it was to find out from someone who works for SEPTA that often, often!, that is intentional by the bus driver. Of course SEPTA is the worst of the east coast city public transportation services. Sad to hear it happens in Seattle too.
Last year I was rear ended while stopped for pedestrians, children and their mother, crossing on Union St. There were 3-4 blocks between me and the truck when I stopped. I would never have stopped if he was closer. The driver from Auburn wasn't looking because "you don't stop between stoplights". That's the rule suburbanites and rural drivers are following when they come to town.
That ought to tell you how totally fucked up the United States has become in the past generation or so.....
What makes me fucking crazy is when idiot bikers ride on the road even though there is a perfectly fine bike/pedestrian path that runs parallel to said road. Like on the waterfront. That's a tight, busy street, and I'm sick of jackoffs in tour de france tights crying about me getting too close to them when their is a perfectly safe alternative 5 feet away.
A pedophile on holiday in Pattaya no doubt.
That said, I've been a regular bike commuter for 25-plus years, and bike recreationally a little bit, too. The negative attitude of drivers towards cars has escalated a lot in the last 10 years—it's scary for cyclists. As a female cyclist, I suffer truly mean-spirited harassment (physically and verbally) on my bike that probably goes beyond anything most men experience. I'd love for that to stop.
And I'd like drivers to consider something: How more often are you enraged by a cyclist than another driver? Probably a lot less often. So think hard before you take your rage out on an easy target (and easily injured) cyclist. It's literally a life-or-death choice.
Secondly, if we weren't on our bikes we'd be in front of you in a car. When I'm in my car and get annoyed at a cyclist, I take a breath and take a moment to appreciate that at least this isn't an annoying driver holding me up: I'd take a clueless cyclist over a clueless driver any day.
Live and let live. If the worst part of your day is that you saw a cyclist run a red light, than your life is pretty sweet.
Also, along with allowing bikes to move first through an intersection, it would be safer to stop all traffic through an intersection twice a light-cycle to allow pedestrians to walk to any other corner they’d like and then let the cars through without those pesky people in the way.
Chances are, the idiot in the SUV probably didn't see the bike as he was turning, and your idiotic feel-good "traffic calming" laws are probably null and void. This is, still, what we call tortured logic.
Baconcat, I know thinking isn't your strong suit...but try, for me. Try to read into situations, and interpret emotional-baiting scare words for what they are instead of being scared by them. It's kind of a learned skill, but you can do it. Others have faith in you.
Also, I wonder if Terry still takes Dan to and from the airport every time he travels.
Dan doesn't like being in cars if he can avoid it. When Dan was in LA for a month he bought a bike and rode everywhere he needed to go and fell in love with LA in the process.
Dan walks where he can, and bikes when he can. And sometimes he gets in cabs.
And Terry? Terry hate cyclists. It's a rich source of conflict in Dan and Terry's relationship.
Old people moving out or passing on, replaced by people that need more than a single room condo, and can't afford an eastlake rubiks cube townie homes.
I think it is inevitable that civilization that serves the old folks is replaced by that which serves younger folks.
Unfortunately, there are many homes with two cars, rainwater ditches where the capital hill bubble-folk think we have sidewalks and bike lanes already, and remakible poor metro bus service for people that supposedly live in the "city" of Seattle.
I can't imaging riding my bike mire than a few blocks, it is simply not safe. The two lane roads with rainwater ditches on either side do not instantly become safer by painting a little white circle/arrow with a bike on it.
Worse, there aren't meaningful jobs within walking/biking distance of the upzone cubes in the most northern part if Seattle. Uless you work in the downtown core you are driving someplace else where there are jobs that actually support the housing being built. Having a nail salon and coffee shop on the first floor of these cubes is absurd. These are not walkable communities, communities have jobs.
I understand the pov of Dan and the Capital Hill Times (aka, the Stranger) it advocates for a society that really only exists within about a half mile of of your open windows, and yet expect "Seatte" to be a particular ideal, and all it's citizens to fund your neighborhood view of the world.
You are demanding a bicycle infrastructure to be paid for by people that, for the most part, do not have sidewalks or transit (no meaningful transit alternative) right now.
So, when you, Dan, want to rant on about "Seattle" and its terrible treatment of bicycle community, realize that large swatches of this same city would love to have the "problem" of bikes/sidewalk/car/transit integration safety issues.
Teens Target Cyclists In ‘Knockout’ Game
August 29, 2011 12:38 PM
ST. LOUIS, MO. (KMOX) — There’s an alert out about recent assaults on bike riders in south St. Louis.
Trailnet.org, an organization that promotes hiking and biking, is cautioning riders to be on the alert for roving bands of teenagers who swarm and attack riders.
Trailnet says the latest attack was last Thursday (8/25) afternoon near Missouri Botanical Garden where a group of 10 to 15 African-American teens charged and attacked a cyclist.
“They weren’t really interested in robbing me. It just seemed like they wanted to beat me up,” says assault victim Cheech Ramirez. “They weren’t interested in letting me get off the ground and having a fair fight.”
Ramirez says he and his friends returned to the scene minutes later to help another bicyclist who was being beaten.
Police say there have been other, similar attacks in the city, and they believe all the victims are picked at random.
Mayor Francis Slay is calling for action, possibly with citizen bike patrols set up with the help of Trailnet and local police.
Police urge bike riders to be aware of their surrounding and call 911 when they see a swarm mob preparing an assault.
I blame the hotshots.
Not surprising. Portland was also way ahead of Seattle in another area of transit: light rail. MAX opened in 1986 and now has 4 lines with 85 stations. Seattle? Too busy masturbating until LINK finally opened two years ago. Now we have one line with 13 stations. Woo-Hoo..go Seattle!
I wonder what percentage of commuters bike to work in Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Berlin and other major European cities?
A witness said the car was trying to turn left onto Thomas from Dexter when a line of oncoming cars began approaching. The driver speedily made the turn and hit the bicyclist, the witness said.
A situation and maneuver like this can easily become tragic, not just for a bicyclist but also for a pedestrian. I'm a very safe and observant driver (only one minor accident in over three decades of driving...lightly tapped the rear end of a car at a stoplight in Springfield, Oregon when coming back to the U of O from an evening at some hot springs because I got drowsy and my two friend who had promised to stay awake to help keep me awake had dozed off...thanks guys) but, about fifteen years ago, I almost nailed a woman and her dog in the exact same situation. I was planning to turn left onto Winona from Aurora, saw cars approaching southbound on Aurora and punched it. At that moment, the woman and her dog -- who must've been standing on the corner but who I hadn't noticed -- started heading across Winona and I can still recall the horror I felt in the split-second where I thought I might hit them. Fortunately, I swiftly veered to the left and she jumped back so nothing tragic occurred. If she had been on a bike, with momentum, I may very well have hit her.
Point is: you can be a very safe and observant driver but no one is perfect and all it takes is one time to fuck up by not being observant enough or by being aggressive instead of cautious and the consequences can be deadly. That being said, any good driver who is also a decent human being would stop if something deadly did happen, not run away as the driver of the SUV did.
In my experience, when I've encountered drivers who are overly aggressive, they are usually driving SUVs. I think being in a larger vehicle tends to give people an "I-own-the-road" mentality" and they have less consideration even for other drivers in cars.
There are plenty of cars that cross the city line that keep on going to Seattle jobs that would actually contribute to paying for the Seattle infrastructure they consume by buying gas in Seattle. The car tab taxes have a limited ceiling and only tax people that live in Seattle that might otherwise want sidewalks, buses, and bike lanes.
I would also support regular police enforcement of the speed limit at the edges of the city. The speed limit on N 145th running east and west is 35 or 40, you turn south and it is instantly 25 on local streets, 30 or 35 on arterials. The traffic really doesn't slow down until it comes to a complete stop, on Aurora that is from Shoreline at 145th do not hit another stop until the stoplight at 135th.
War on Idiotic and Careless Drivers = Win
There are some drivers I have seen who are great, attentive, and extremely well mannered, then there are the rest of the drivers. If you want to solve a problem you have to get to the actual cause, don't just be lazy and go after a broad category expecting that to fix anything. As a pedestrian I have almost been hit by cars crossing the street at the light, when it says to cross, more often than I can count, the only reason I was not hurt at many of them is that on foot we can do quick reversals in a heartbeat while bikes cannot. The problem is not all motorists, it's the idiots who probably shouldn't even be allowed on bicycles as well. For instance the cyclists who ride on the downtown sidewalks at full speed, running over pedestrians expecting them to get out of their way while they break the law. Special note to you bikers: It is illegal to ride on the sidewalk, period, because it's dangerous to everyone.
But, humanity is stupid. So here's the thing, if you want a real "war on cars" have at it, because that will just open up the "war on bikes" next, or you can take the smart route and start a "war on stupidity" instead. I say no personal transportation vehicles of any sort in city areas, that would be my dream, if you're too lazy to walk a few blocks you don't deserve the body you were given at birth.
My comment to the article in the Economist here:
Then the students come back for fall semester. Fucking Hell. These assholes give bike riders a bad name everywhere. And they are legion. I wish there was a comprehensive mandatory bike safety course and enforcement, it is just fucking unbelievable what these morons do. Lexington is trying to support cyclists, and progress has been made, but it is still very disconnected, with beautiful bike lanes disappearing into narrow lanes across intersections. If people took the time to learn how to fucking ride their bikes and get involved with the process we would be a decent biking town by now.
The bike lane on left side of second avenue is a death trap. If I were riding in that lane I certainly would ride defensively especially when coming up to left turns like James Street.
I agree that riding on the sidewalk is generally unsafe (for both pedestrians and cyclists), but illegal it is not . . .
We have bike registration here, but I have never seen enforcement of either cyclists riding dangerously or motorists endangering cyclists and there are plenty examples of both. I just recently started to commute with my bike and it took a lot of getting used to, riding the way you are supposed to. My dad doesn't understand why anyone would do it, he's like "OH MY GOD you are riding INCHES AWAY FROM DEATH". This meme is stuck in my brain every time I start off now, inchesawayfromdeath, inchesawayfromdeath. It makes the ride less enjoyable, but I'm probably safer because of it.
I hope somebody from the City transportation department (or legal department) gleans something from this particular blog.
Driver Charged In Street Shooting Felt He Was 'In Jeopardy'
Markus Solomon Accused Of Killing Gordon Rees In New Castle
POSTED: 11:12 pm EDT August 30, 2011
UPDATED: 8:53 pm EDT September 2, 2011
NEW CASTLE, Pa. -- A motorist who's accused of shooting and killing a pedestrian who told him to slow down claims he acted because he thought he was in danger, police say.
"I don't feel like I should have did it, but my life was in jeopardy ... It could have been avoided," said 18-year-old Markus Solomon, according to the criminal complaint filed by New Castle police.
"I just can't believe what happened to him," said Christina Lyerson, stepsister of the shooting victim, Gordon Rees Jr. "It was just the worst. His eyes were still open, he looked at me, and it was just -- I couldn't even say anything to him. I just walked away."Police say the 31-year-old Rees turned toward a car and yelled at the driver shortly before 10:30 p.m. Tuesday on Williams Street. Police said the car stopped, the driver got out, and a verbal altercation began."There was an old black Cavalier that was going about 70 or 80 miles an hour and came up behind him and clipped him," said a friend who was with Rees at the time. "Gordon stood there and said, 'If you're going to shoot me, shoot me,' because he didn't really think he was going to get shot, because he did nothing wrong."
Rees' friend, who did not want to be publicly identified, said they were walking to the home of Rees' mother at the time."I just started screaming and screaming, 'Someone call 911,' and since no one was answering me or doing anything, I had to pick him up and put pressure on his heart and his back to keep the blood from coming out," he said. "I was just hoping my brother wasn't going to die. He's like a brother to me. He's always protecting me.""I heard gunshots, I come outside and I seen everybody running down the street," said Rees' aunt, Laurie Schmitt. "I seen my sister, Lori, bawling -- 'My son, he got shot, he's dead.'"Police said Rees, a father of two, was taken to Jamestown Hospital and was pronounced dead."So my nephew dies because he asks him to slow down? He lost his life? That ain't right," Schmitt said.
"I just take it day by day. I try not to think about it, but his room is right next to mine, so I kind of have to see all of his stuff," Lyerson said.On Friday, police said they arrested Solomon on unrelated charges during a traffic stop.After Solomon was taken to the Lawrence County Jail, police identified him as a suspect in the Rees shooting and said he will be charged with homicide.
Read more: http://www.wtae.com/news/29033666/detail…
Then require each bike riding on the roads to be licensed, with the rider carrying an operators permit which can be revoked for violating safety laws repeatedly, just like drivers. (Hint- just because you're riding a machine fundamentally unsuited to traffic, and need to keep up momentum to overcome this flaw, stoplights and signs apply to you as well.)
Then change the climate and geography of the Puget Sound so that riding to work is halfway practical... Oh, yeah.
BTW, those from Sweden or England or anywhere else lamenting democratically established US policy? You seem confused. We don't enact policy here to please you, but to serve our own interests. Just as you do. It's called the will of the people, but that only matters to you when you're stealing one persons income to pay for the 6 week vacation, or health care or child care expenses or housing or food of another too lazy or thriftless to do so himself.
They routinely fly through red lights, weave through traffic, bike against traffic, ride up on side walks when it suits them and they never yield to pedestrians in crosswalks.
And then they wonder why they get hit by cars.
It's important to remember that "the bus" is not some evil monolith out to crush you. It is a vehicle containing perhaps dozens of people trying to get where they're going in a reasonable amount of time. And tragically, it is what passes for "mass transit" in Seattle.
I guess I'm not sure what you think bus drivers "should" do. Do you think they should have to hang behind you at 15 mph for multiple miles, just in case someone on board pulls the stop-request cord? Is your unbroken momentum so important as to delay that many people's day, make them late for work, make them miss their connecting buses? Unlike auto drivers, bus passengers can't simply switch to a different route.
If a bus is approaching behind you, let it pass. Slow down for just long enough to put some distance between it and you. If you're on a low-pedestrian street, like 15th through Interbay, ride on the sidewalk for a minute (yes, it's legal) to avoid lane conflict.
But don't leapfrog. It's a jerky thing to do. You don't have the right to pace-set the entire world.
buses have your ass beat on every front:
In the popular Green Virtue Department
a bus hauling 40-50 folks
(and burning natural gas even...)
totally is more important than some prick on a bike.
In the often ignored but critical
Physics Department a bus
totally has the tonnage on a bike.
You think an SUV bites?
again. Give way.
but carry ID in case you aren't nimble enough.....
why so grumpy, darlin?
wishing we were Europe is an innate HomoLiberal trait.
in fact, it is the easiest way to tell a HomoLiberal from a Real American.
then when they cross an arterial you ensure there's a light there.
often we don't have the physical room for a separate bike lane as in amsterdam; let's do that too; but that's way more money; in the meantime the greenways concept some of us have pushed for for years is good.
it's too bad some cyclists react by saying "how dare you suggest I shouldn't ride in the arterial with the pedestrians, the garages, the busses, the lights making me stop and the car doors opening into the sharrow lane!! you must be against bikes!"
I hear there's a new cycling group supporting this concept and calling it greenways.
why not bikers just start with a little non permanent chalking guerrilla action on the streets, mmmmm?
There's gotta be some road one block from 35th that goes a long way south in W Seattle. There's 14th in Ballard from the water up to 65th. Better than 15th, right? there's side streets parallel to 3d and 8th in Ballard. Instead of Roovsevelt north of 75th to northgate, some side street. sure the biker has to dogleg here and there but my god every single cyclist who regularly cycles gets injured. fact. it's too freaking dangerous. let's solve the problem, and with the rights of way we have we don't have room for the entire array of bike infra. they have in copendamsterhaven.
fuck you moron. it's my country my foreberers fought for our liberty and we're not going to be bullied around by cretins like you. You leave. You're not into free speech, so you're unamerican so you leave asshole.
don't stick around just to spite conservatives.
you know you hate America and all it stands for....
you know you admire the French and especially the Danes...
you know you think legalized pot and prostitution and 4 years of unemployment benefits are the key to human happiness.
listen to your heart.
fly fly, little birdie......
one thing car drivers tend to overlook is that cars are WAY harder on the roads than bikes are. when was the last time you saw a pothole in the burke-gilman or any other dedicated bike path? that's why the streets are so fucked up all over the city--not because of cyclists "not paying their share", but because cars are REALLY destructive to the roads. on top of that, it's a fucking CHOICE to drive. no one forces you to purchase and operate a two-ton death machine. no one forces you to pay over $4 a gallon for gas. no one forces you to sit on your ass in traffic for an hour instead of taking the bus or riding a bike or walking where you need to go. it's a convenience, and an expensive one. which makes people cranky in our entitled society, because they want everything for free and no one wants to pay anything to support the choices they make. (this argument could go for a lot of things, but I digress.)
so as for the licensing thing, I honestly wouldn't give a flying fuck if they passed a law that cyclists need licenses to be on the street too. I'd go down and happily hand them the cash to prove that me and my bike are allowed to "share the road" like so many others (drivers) aren't willing to do. I think it'd be smart anyway, and they could take all the money made from licensing fees and use it to improve the infrastructure for bikes. move the bike lanes out of the way of traffic, create barriers, save some lives, and further encourage more bicycling. from two cycling commuters who haven't driven cars in over 3 and 6 years, it makes sense to us.
I'm in a college town, and all the buses have racks on the front that can hold bikes; it's just not that difficult to get that feature when you replace old buses.
So it doesn't have to take THAT much money to encourage bike use.
Bike registration is probably a good idea, if the money could be used to build infrastructure; and it could encourage better driving by bikers.
It took 100 years of dedicated spending biased towards automobiles to build the paved roads and highways that are key to universal auto use; and the low-density suburbs that may be difficult to sustain as gas prices rise. There is no reason why there can't be steady infrastructure spending towards more people riding bikes and mass transit for shorter trips now. The more people who ride bikes, the less crowded the streets will be for cars, and the less money we'll be sending to our "good buddies" in Venezuela and Saudi Arabia for oil that is better used for building things like plastic and asphalt than for burning.
No, drivers hate cyclists because they point blank refuse to follow the rules of the road endangering themselves and everyone else around them. And then they act holier than thou for doing so, which really is adding insult to injury.
Stop signs, yield signs and lights apply to you too, cyclists, amazing as this clearly is to you.
If 5 or more vehicles are held up by you, in a bike or in a car, you must pull over and let them pass. Which cyclists rarely or never do. As an example, a bike path borders both highway 202 and East Lake Sammamish. Do cyclists use them? Absolutely not! After all, they're saving the planet from us evil car drivers trying to get our kids to baseball or get our shopping done. They insist on using the roads at 10 to 30 miles an hour under the limit and completely refuse to get out of the way of legitimate traffic.
Erratic or aggressive driving is as much an infraction for a cyclist as a driver, though from the behavior of most cyclists you'd never know this. They seem to think it required once they don the silly costumes remniscent of medieval jesters and board their childrens toys for a jaunt on the roads.
And most to the point, we pay millions a year to build and maintain dedicated bike lanes for a fundamentally unsuitable means of transport in our hilly rainy low density region. We block key arterials to allow for a bike lane instead of 2 lanes of traffic that might actually be used to, you know, get to work or school or the grocery store. And they don't get used. I might see a bike or two in any given bike lane, but never enough to justify blocking an entire lane of traffic for it.
Want to talk about meaningful mass transit solutions to traffic congestion and the high cost of cars in the city? Fine. But any rational person knows that bikes aren't one of them.
It's a beautiful day, Seattleblahs. What are you doing on Slog? Who has the highly theoretical children? Or did they run away to escape you constant priggishness?
And, a more specific idea on the cost of car ownership in Denmark, an $11,000 USD automobile in US sells for roughly $30,000 USD in Denmark because of the 180 percent tax on automobiles. The tax on luxury cars, automatic transmission are considered luxury features, is much higher.
I loved being back with family and I enjoyed the ease of getting around. Although it cost me 455,00 DKK, that is $86.63 USD per person x 4 = $346.52, for a 10 klip Alle zoner pass for the trains and busses. And it is true that we have much in common: greenspaces, Intel, rain, and miles of bike paths. Portland has about 324 miles of bikeways, I don't know about Seattle. We are also very different. It would be lovely if we could have the same economic success, riders in Copenhagen are responsible for a $247 million (USD) economic impact that translates into about 300 businesses and 650 full-time jobs as reported by the city, across the US. I can't see, maybe I'm too cynical, a good majority of people in the US embracing the cost of living in Denmark even with the other benefits of universal health care, state-provided education all the way through university, state-funded childcare, and a system for taking care of (not merely giving pensions to) senior citizens. I love it there and I envy much of their culture, but I think I might be an exception not the norm.
And if you think that removing bike lanes will allow us to put in more traffic lanes, I've got news for you; two bike lanes put together won't make up even ONE traffic lane. The space we cyclists take up is roughly 2/5ths of a parking lane. Reducing congestion by taking out bike lanes is like trimming the Federal budget by defunding NPR.
@94: A family friend of mine, a neurosurgeon, says that people in her line of work have a term for people like you: organ donors. Make sure you fill out your card!
As a cyclist, I prefer lanes that have a physical divide from cars. I would feel safer and ride my bike more if there were better bike lanes. Bike trails are nice for recreation but rarely are they decent routes for commuting.
Overall, bike-friendly features help drivers and cyclists alike, by reducing traffic, pollution, parking demand, and increasing safety. More cyclists also means less demand for gas, which means potentially lower prices for gas.
Doesn't like tight buttocks?
You referred to traffic calming as intangible "feel-good laws." Which makes you an idiot.