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@93 (EricaP), I'm acceptably fluent in BSL (the Brazilian counterpart of ASL), and I'm not deaf. No, it isn't all that hard to learn -- in some ways it's easier than spoken languages -- but there's a lot you have to 'unlearn' about languages when you try it. But people, including deaf people, are different in how they react to it, especially if they are first exposed to a sign language (there are many) at a later age.

I wonder about BEG's story -- how problematic was communication for her while growing up, and is learning ASL now being any help? (I'm guessing -- please correct me if I'm wrong -- that BEG relied on hearing aids to get by?)
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One thing you should get tested is your sleep, big guy. I'd bet you a hundred bucks that you've got apnea if you're that big. Sleep apnea is when your airway falls closed when you sleep and chokes you. It interrupts deep sleep and - even if you feel rested and you're not super sleepy during the day - it can really screw with your metabolism.

My brother was over 300lbs (and he's short) but he couldn't stop eating garbage all the time. He felt like he had to. Once he got his apnea treated the urge to eat sugar and fat just went away. It was a product of his screwed up metabolism.

Get tested. It won't fix everything but it could help a lot.

-Sleep tech
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Thanks, Si@94 and ankylosaur@101.

It's sad to hear about politics and struggles within certain communities, but I guess that's true of any group of humans. Not everyone gets along, even if they do speak the same language or have certain things in common. I hope milemarker and BEG are doing well these days.

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my sister was grossly obese her whole life and then one day in her late 30s she magically decided to make a change. she went to a hospital for help and instead of surgery she had a doctor assisted diet and workout regimen. in less than a year she lost well over a 150 pounds. she has kept if off for years with a better understanding of diet and apparently emotional stabilization. the one thing she still doesnt have is love. thats tough but she deals with it. she now has emotional stability and much better self esteem. just get off the instant gratification wheel and take a longer view. yes, it takes mental toughness.

at least you are sane though and can write coherently. just work on emotional stability and decide what you have to do to achieve that.
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Letter writer, you need a good doctor and a good therapist, in that order. Your hopeless feelings hurt my heart to see. You ARE a worthwhile person. You ARE loveable. IT WILL GET BETTER.

If you do consider bariatric surgery, please do yourself a favor and research ALL of your options, including RNY gastric bypass, the VSG, and the Duodenal Switch. For the love of all that is holy, do NOT get a Lap-Band, those things carry a lot of risks and problems, and don't do well for someone with a large BMI.
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Thank you Dan for your considerate comments. Like PHM, I am a very fat man and am not getting on with my life. Relatives and friends who have had bariatric surgery advise me to look into it, but I'm reluctant to do that because it is risky -- although much less risky than being 180 pounds overweight.

Like hundreds of ivy league educated actor-waiters here in NYC, I am not living up to my potential. I'm getting by, but I'm not getting ahead. I know I could benefit from therapy, but just don't like going to the social workers prescribed by my insurance plan. I'd prefer to see a psychiatrist who's experienced for psychotherapy, not just for prescriptions, like people used to do 35 years ago.

I'm worth about a million and I have a part time job that provides health insurance benefits, although it's not good for mental health benefits. To see a psychiatrist for therapy like I'd like, I'd probably have to pay him without reimbursement something like $200+ per hour once or twice a week for a year or two -- which would still be cheaper than having a gastric bypass or having my stomach banded. That could be good for me, but I can't get myself to move towards doing much of anything.

What makes a difference for me now is just getting up and walking around the block some. That small amount of exercise has big benefits. I'm in Forest Hills in Queens where there are sidewalks all around. Even though I get some stares for being a fat guy, I manage to move along. Also, I'm a tour guide aboard the buses here in NYC so I'm going up a flight a stairs more than ten times a day, at least five times a week, which guys over 360 pounds don't do so often.

PHM, what I think could really help you now is to go to a support group. You need friends, or at least well-meaning people who will try to act like friends. Overeaters Anonymous and nearly all the other support groups are not just dealing with addictions, but are also dealing with the mixed up thinking and emotions that enable people to become addicts. The emotional support from a support group can help you get back on your feet. Getting a sponsor in OA, speaking with someone everyday at a regular time, who's independent and not a relative, can help you to see yourself differently than you see yourself now. Obtaining a workout partner, someone to walk around the block with you everyday at first, and later someone to lift weights with you at a gym 2 or 3 times a week for an hour or so could end up happening from OA too.

There's a fellow in AZ named David Smith who weighed over 600 pounds who got thin without surgery. What made him successful was making a friend. Smith called up a TV fitness guru who became his mentor. http://getfitslowly.com/2008/01/31/david…
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I'm not saying that surgery isn't an option, but I do know obese people who have transformed their bodies, acheived healthy weights, and kept the weight off without surgical intervention.

PHM, you say your weight gain began during your stressful school years. Stress was a trigger for you back then, and depression is what's keeping you from breaking the cycle now. The first step to taking control of your life again is getting into therapy and working on that depression. Also, if you're still able to work a job and walk around, you're capable of exercising. Starting a very basic physical fitness routine is crucial to your mental state -- you need those happy endorphines that come from working out. You don't have to do this alone. Why not set up an exercise program with your sister and work on motivating each other? You say you've tried diets, but have you only tried dieting alone? Try joining Weight Watchers and attending the meetings, connecting with other people struggling with weight and food issues. Try all of this before you resort to surgery.

Always know that you are not alone. There are people out there who will welcome you without judgment and help you turn your life around if you're willing to reach out to them. Writing to Dan was a step in the right direction.

Good luck and be brave.
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What a bunch of fatphobic, ableist bullshit in these comments. Yeah, everybody you know who used to be fat = everybody who's fat. Selling your car = TOTALLY realistic for people who don't live in densely urban areas. Walking everywhere = same, and TOTALLY realistic for people with mobility-related disabilities. Not eating for a day = TOTALLY smart! I mean, it's not like a lot of people initially got fat in reaction to parents who used to starve us because we were a little chubby, not the slim, willowy kids they wanted and thought they deserved!

Never mind all this "doctor-assisted" stuff, plus suggestions to go see "naturopaths" (i.e., quacks) and go to gyms. Do you privileged assholes have any idea how many people don't have healthcare in this country?

There's nothing kind or compassionate about suggesting someone mutilate an internal organ via a surgery that often kills, destroys the body's ability to absorb nutrients from food, and doesn't always work because, hey, guess what? Eating a certain amount is NOT entirely a matter of "willpower."

Fuck Savage, and fuck all you urban "progressives" with giant fucking blind spots when it comes to body shape, class, and ability.
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agree with #22. dieting is hard (I'm obese right now, so I know how it feels) but the LW readily admits he eats tons of junk food. try life without the junk food. keto diets, like atkins and mark sisson's version of paleo, can make huge changes... and even take the cravings for junk food totally away. that's right, you'll be craving broccoli and salad. don't jump right to the surgery until you've tried this.
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@102 is right on the money. Depending on who you ask, between 5% and 40% (!) of people in the US have at least a mild sleep disorder. Obstructive sleep is incredibly common. If you snore, you should get checked. If you're obese, you should get checked. If your neck size is greater than 17", you should get checked. If you ever feel tired during the day, you should get checked.

Sleep deprivation (and if you have severe apnea, you're basically sleep-deprived 24 hours a day) can cause pretty much every symptom you could imagine, including depression, bipolar symptoms, and an unstoppable appetite. And long-term, apnea greatly increases your risk of heart disease, stroke, and hypertension. In the end, if you have apnea and it's not treated, it's going to take about 10 years off your life.

I'm not saying that this will solve all your problems. But if you do have apnea, and you get treated, your other problems might not seem *quite* as overwhelming.
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Great advice Dan. Good luck PHM.
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PHM, you've gotten some great comments, I hope you can drag yourself out of the hole you're in and realize that you're worth all this trouble.

I wanted to chime in and say that I am a chick who likes bigger guys. We are out there. Not all women want Brad Pitt. I personally am not attracted to skinny, slight men. At 6'7" you will probably never be neither skinny or slight - and I like what #96 said about you trying lifting. It's possible to be active and healthy and still be a bigger guy. That's crazy-hot.

I'm not petite (5'8" and 145 pounds) I like to think I can climb on top of a guy without breaking him.
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Change in diet plus excersise, as summarized by a layperson.
I saw the movie "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" by Joe Cross, and
I learned a great deal about this issue. Please look at these links,
I'm sure there is good information in there for anyone overweight.
http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Fuhr…
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The good news is this is something you CAN fix. It's possible. At least you're not in a wheelchair with an irreversible disability. Do whatever you have to do to get some discipline-get a buddy to police your house and get every last bit of junk food out. Ditch the Xbox. Learn to cook in a healthy way. GET HELP. But do something. Because you can. A lot of people would trade you in a heartbeat, because this is fixable.

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