It's 3.. It's 5... No, wait, it's 35!! I'm sorry. I can't. Don't hate me. Wasn't that how Berger broke up with Carrie? Maybe Perry should stick to Post-Its! Man, I can't wait for tomorrow night's Daily Show!!
Did we ever find out what #3 was? Watching that clip, I was practically screaming "EPA Rick, EPA!", but apparently he's got something else on the block? Health & Human Services maybe?
How does the biggest oil shill on the stage forget the dept of energy? Holy fuck? Not only did he botch it with the viewing public, his masters will no be well pleased @ all.
I doubt this is his undoing. It is still way early and there is plenty of time for more crazy talk before Iowa. It is not like the Republicans are looking for someone who has good ideas.
Besides the obvious brain fart I think he used up his limited memory trying to remember new tag lines.
...So, having said that Perry performs badly in debates, can we talk about how insane it is to want to get rid of the Departments of Education and Energy?
I mean, it seems to me that an inability to remember what you're supposed to say on stage is a failing many of us might have, but that thinking you should abolish the government agencies that regulate some of the most fundamental elements of modern life is straight up batshit.
Perry is the very last person in that group who should advocate eliminating the Department of Education. Granted, education apparently did fuck all for him. But just imagine how fucking stupid he'd be without the minimal standards of education bestowed upon him by the state of Texas.
I thought Bachmann was the worst the Republican party had to offer up. Jesus.
@34, could be a final attempt: this will either kill or resurrect my campaign... Not matter which, he'll be happy to be unstuck from the tedious middle.
I actually don't think this kind of speaking damages a Republican candidate at all. If anything, it endears him to the GOP base. Did you hear the applause?
The points made by @43 and @44 points are well taken. Also, it’s a year out before the election and the news cycle and information flow is more accelerated than it was in 2008. But this is worse than W’s long pauses and uhhhs, it shows lapses in short term memory and talking before you have mentally completed the sentence. That alarms voters more than responses they find stupid, uninformed, or sophomoric.
The Republican base worships ignorance. To the extent he sounded like he might not even know what departments he would be governing, it was probably a big plus to a lot of folks.
@38, 48: "My least favorite government agency is Commerce...Commerce and Education...Education and Commerce.... My two least favorite government agencies are Education and Commerce...and the EPA.... My *three* least favorite government agencies are Education, Commerce, and the EPA...and the Department of Energy.... My *four*...no... *Amongst* my least favorite agencies.... Amongst my least favorite government agencies...are such bodies as Education, Commerce.... I'll debate again."
His support will erode, but not die off. Plenty of his supporters will just argue that anyone could have trouble when they're nervous - like most Republican arguments, there's a kernel of truth in there, but it's missing the point that this guy is A: in way over his fucking head, B: clearly on meds that will have to be revealed at some point, and C: dumb as a stump.
At one time, I thought that having so many Republican debates was going to be a bad thing. Too much exposure to the evil madness and all that . . . but now, I see the genius in it. Give them all enough air time and each one of them will eventually make a complete ass of himself and provide lots and lots of fodder for the President.
I don't see how this could possibly rank as any less damaging than the infamous Howard Dean scream (which I gotta admit, I don't think was nearly egregious enough to get him ousted from the Democratic primary. But I guess such is the modern media cycle and so Perry is done. Shame it couldn't have been Mutt.)
I just watched the Dave Letterman "Top 10 List" for the first time in years and the category was Top 10 Herman Cain pickup lines and one of them was, "Can I get you a glass of whatever it is Rick Perry is drinking?" = good times. #1 was "Baby my tax plan may be a 9-9-9, but you're a 10-10-10." Also enjoyable.
Point: As much as I loathe Rick Perry, I'm kind of sad that we live in a country where an admittedly embarrassing slip-up in delivery will sink his campaign, rather than the content of what he was saying.
@ 63 and others, the reason why this is so damaging is because it has long been mantra with the far right to do away with these three departments (not agencies, as he called them - these are three cabinet departments). If Perry was with them, he'd have been able to roll it off his tongue because he would have been a believe for 20 years.
This shows that he was paying the far right lip service. If you ever check out hard right blogs, Perry was under suspicion already for things like the HPV vaccine. But failing to name the three departments they want gone is like telling someone you're christian but forgetting one of the members of the holy trinity.
@63 As I understand it, the whole Dean "scream" thing was organic and worked very well at the event. Charged the crowd up and all. It played less well on TV, but wasn't really a problem until the machine got a hold of it and recontextualized and mangled it into something campaign killing.
A shame really; I thought Dean would have been a hell of a president.
Too bad the mangling of his line obscures the truth about what he was trying to say. The reason certain groups want to eliminate the Dept of Education is that it is the government agency that essentially enforces Brown v. Board and student equality. Private schools can get around discrimination because they don't receive federal funding, which is the hammer used to keep public schools in line. No more Dept. of Education, no more hammer, and no more student equality.
Eliminating Dept. of Education = Segregated schools.
The man has the intellectual capacity of a houseplant. Look, brain freezes happen. I had one happen in an endorsement interview when I was running for office; I could not for the life of me think of the term "living wage." So I MOVED ON. I talked about another issue. But he couldn't adapt, because he has no idea what he's reciting. He was given a list of things to say by his corporate puppetmasters, he doesn't actually have any beliefs or know anything about issues. So he had no idea what the third department was, or if there were, in fact, five, once he let Johnny Walker bring him to the debate.
@ 25 - Of course a really perceptive person might conclude that this point had already been (hilariously) made by Adrian Ryan a scant 7 posts and 30 minutes prior.
@ 78 - Why you gotta be hatin' on houseplants like that? Why, I have a half-grown dieffenbachia that could debate circles around Perry! :-D
Cain can't remember his victims.
Hurry up and install health care...we've got some Alzheimer cases here!
Besides the obvious brain fart I think he used up his limited memory trying to remember new tag lines.
Not very smart.
I mean, it seems to me that an inability to remember what you're supposed to say on stage is a failing many of us might have, but that thinking you should abolish the government agencies that regulate some of the most fundamental elements of modern life is straight up batshit.
I thought Bachmann was the worst the Republican party had to offer up. Jesus.
Ron Paul ftw
I just saw this on ZeroHedge, which also supplied a graph of Perry's presidential trading contract imploding.
"Three, sir!"
"Three agencies I would disband. And those five agencies are..."
"Three sir!"
"...Those three agencies are..."
@38 for the hilarious win.
You are correct. How on earth did I ever manage to conflate the two?
Counterpoint:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
This shows that he was paying the far right lip service. If you ever check out hard right blogs, Perry was under suspicion already for things like the HPV vaccine. But failing to name the three departments they want gone is like telling someone you're christian but forgetting one of the members of the holy trinity.
A shame really; I thought Dean would have been a hell of a president.
One is for peanut, two is for tuba, three is for house!
Eliminating Dept. of Education = Segregated schools.
Stop drinking the kool-aid.
Fred Willard needs to play Perry in a Christopher Guest movie about the republican debate circuit.
@ 78 - Why you gotta be hatin' on houseplants like that? Why, I have a half-grown dieffenbachia that could debate circles around Perry! :-D