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I guess reality just isn't interesting enough?
To make a donation to the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society, money can be sent to P.O. Box 224, Youngstown, Ohio 44501.
Most Republicans love charity, as opposed to government assistance, as when they give a few crumbs to charity they receive the proper groveling gratitude from their inferiors. No such gratitude is received when they pay their taxes.
Is there a conservative out there that isn't a bigot or monumental douchebag, someone w/o an appalling lack of compassion or lack of common sense? Someone who actually cares about their fellow Americans. Anyone?
*(Actually, I don't, but have to find humor in some aspect of this story.)
You know why Republicans like charities? Tax deductions. If Romney were to actually remove the Itemized Deduction for charitable giving, as he suggests he would, you'd see donations to charities plummet.
And before the Righties start in with "well Democrats will lose the tax break as well", bear in mind a lot of people on the left who donate to charities aren't able to itemize, so they've never gotten the benefit for the deduction in the first place.
Now, which group do you think will be more likely to turn off the spigot: those who donate in order to get a direct cash benefit, or those who donate, but have never gotten a cash benefit?
@11: I haven't created any bullshit.
Actually, this whole thing has sounded off to me. Paul Ryan and his clan, what--pushed their way--into this charity's kitchen, forced this photo-op moment on them, and now, as a result, they're hurting for donations? It just doesn't have the ring of truth. Charity or no, I just don't like being deceived.
If he is as devout a follower of Ayn Rand as he's claimed in the past (before he became known on the national level), then, yes, he should be against charity.
Why would a Catholic charity attack a Catholic candidate? It's not like St. Vincent de Paul is some obscure charity no one's heard about. This story hurts them more than helps them.
If I recall, the campaign arranged with a volunteer at the kitchen to let them in when nobody else would be around.The ED of the organization was never notified and permission was never requested. Sounds like this volunteer was a Ryan supporter.
"Actually, this whole thing has sounded off to me."
Watch the video of it.
"Paul Ryan and his clan, what--pushed their way--into this charity's kitchen, forced this photo-op moment on them, ..."
That does seem to be what the video shows.
Ryan and his family show up.
Go to what appears to be a vacant kitchen area (no one else working there).
They "wash" a few (3? 4?) dishes that seem to already be clean that are sitting on the sink.
Then they walk somewhere else and pass what appears to be a homeless guy (client of the soup kitchen?) and Ryan has a 3 second conversation with him, over his shoulder, while walking away from him.
"... and now, as a result, they're hurting for donations?"
That is what is being reported now.
The people who donated to the soup kitchen, who are also Ryan supporters, are pulling their support for the soup kitchen.
"It just doesn't have the ring of truth."
Do you have a problem believing the video or that people would pull their support after Ryan looks stupid there?
Because if it is the second part, we've gone over that many times here.
It's the core difference between supporting social security programs via taxes and supporting charity.
With taxes, you get no say in who gets how much how often.
With charity, you get to decide who gets how much and how often.
Like Romney, after the last debate.
Give to this charity BEFORE you give to Obama or any of the corporate whores on the ballot this year. The shelter is actually doing good for those who need it.
Except for, you know, WITH YOUR VOTE. My ballot arrived today and look at all these levies I get to think about, and people with voting records for tax increases for things I care about and stuff! Neato!
@1... Slog is not a race. You don't get anything for being the first commenter. It's okay to read the story first.
Wow. First of all--I am NOT A ROMNEY SUPPORTER and I especially hate that arrogant, mother-fuckin' muppet-lookin' clowndouche Ryan. I'm a college-educated (UW and proud), charity-supporting, liberal atheist who is surrounded by Republicans on the Eastside. If I could, I would pick up my house and move it near Greenlake, where I like to run and to hang out with some of the nicest people I know.
I think so many of you got bent out of shape for nothing. I have a suspicious mind, I admit, but I think being skeptical is healthy. And many of you read waaay too much into it.
Without making this post extremely long, let me just say this; I'm not an expert on what happened with the Ryan soup kitchen fiasco, but I get especially suspicious when comes to political stunts. And you all should be too.
I spoke with someone tonight about this blog post and before I had even told her what I wrote, she said the same thing. So, at least I'm not alone in my suspicions.
I'm all for giving time and money to charity, but I don't like doing it under false pretenses. That's all I was saying.
Please pull your head out of your ass. You'll find it easier to breath if you do.
This is an alternative.
That is, if you feel a bunch of people who hang around on a news site posting snarky comments can be trusted.
Red states tend to have more zero-income-tax folks and blue states tend to have less! DeeleeleeleeleeleeleeWOOOOOOOOOOOOP!
Suggesting that Ryan is an objectivist indicates a fuck ton of willful ignorance.
So what you're saying is that he's an objectivist and is just lying about it now?
I guess if you want to believe that lying little weasel, that's your call, but when others refuse to believe him that is not "willfull ignorance".
"He's a conservative Christian authoritarian."
With the same critique of "Objectivist" I could say that he isn't "Christian".
But that doesn't matter.
He picked up SOME of the Objectivist dogma (notably "greed is good") and replaced part of the Christian dogma with that.
Would Rand call him an Objectivist? No.
Would Jesus call him a Christian? No.