"We would not put [Mars Hill members] in any position where they could proselytize."
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That's not to say they don't do good work too, but they are predatory.
So, what, they'd be allowed to sweep the floor and empty the trash bins after the office is closed? In any other role, they'll try. Your rules don't measure up against their imaginary friend's rules, and he insists that they proselytize.
Anyway, I'm fairly certain educating people on using protection, and needle exchanges would do far more than a bunch of fundamentalist bigots running around shouting variations of "God Hates Fags" and trying to convert people.
Hateful Charismatic groups that punish their gay members are probably inappropriate, even if it ~would~ give them more experience. I just don't think it should be at the expense of the ill and dying.
You latch onto the back of any negative article and spew out your toxic comments. Do any of YOU do volunteer work or give back to any community? No one said Mars Hill is full of perfect people. No MH BANS anyone from the gay and lesbian communities.
The judgmental comments irritate me SO freaking much. Back off people. Do something for someone else today. Buy someone coffee. Ask how someone is doing. Volunteer. ANYTHING except unleash horrible comments.
And comparing Mars HIll to Westboro? That is a new low. MH is the complete opposite of Westboro. But....you all wouldn't know because you're throwing out accusations before visiting the church or reading their "what we believe in."
MH may be opposite Westboro in some ways: as vile and crazy as Westboro is, at least Shirley Phelps, a woman, not a girl, is the public face of it. Who is MH's public face? Marcia Driscoll? Mary Driscoll? K'Nesha Driscoll?
Glad you could take time out of licking your lord-and-master's boots and shoveling his paycheck into Mars Hill's coffers to share your thoughts.
Come on over. Seriously.
I will stand by my life, how I conduct myself, how I treat people, and what I believe (and don't believe) any day of the week.
I'm not saying I'm perfect, but I am 100% confident that any examination of my life would find it rather consistent with the values I profess.
Perhaps in large part because I don't let those values be dictated to me by (say) a dogmatic egomaniac with a bizarre preoccupation with masculinity.
It's seems you are taking the comments on this thread really personally, and I don't know why that is, but I'm going to offer up that anyone who visits slog and has expectations that Mars Hill Church in Seattle is going to be treated with warmth or kid gloves (or with anything other than mockery) is a person who is setting his or herself up for huge disappointment. And in this case Mars Hill has just- maybe with all the good intentions in the world, who knows (you are right, everything that Mars Hill has put out in the public forum has convinced me that there is nothing in that church for the likes of me)- set itself up for that kind of mockery.
Will this be the last we hear from Justin Dean, the PR/Marketing director for the Mars Hill brand? Will Mr. Dean join the pile of bodies under the Mars Hill bus about which the Rev. Driscoll bragged:
"I'm all about blessed subtraction. There is a pile of dead bodies under the Mars Hill bus [chuckles] and by God's grace it'll be a mountain by the time we're done. You either get on the bus or get run over by the bus. Those are the two options. But the bus ain't gonna stop."