I'm curious about suicide rates too. If people don't have guns won't they find other ways to end it all?

@3 Suicide culture is entirely different in Asian countries.

"625 King County residents were killed by gun violence ... 460 were self-inflicted."

So 165 people were killed by gun violence, and suicide is a much bigger problem. Maybe we should make suicide illegal?

A health problem? Like overeating and no exercise? Tobacco? The sheer volume of lives lost to diabetes, heart disease, etc swamps gun deaths. The above is slow suicide.

Somehow if you feel like going fast, suciciding with a gun, then that is bad, and gun violence.

Imagine how many lives would be saved with a mandatory boot camp like exercise regimen for all citizens, 2 hrs a day. "If it saves just one life...we have to try."

Save one life is the weakest fucking argument ever made.

Why is it when you hustlers are trying to sell high rise condos, you say that violent crime is at an all time low.

But when you want to confiscate guns, you paint a picture of a city haunted by madmen.

Which is it?

Also while we are at it lets tattoo a red bio hazard symbol on the foreheads of all people who are HIV+ it will prevent people from being unknowingly infected, if it saves one life it is worth it.

I find it a bit ironic that doctors are trying to classify firearms ownership as a disease considering that prescriptions written in illegible handwriting kill 7000 people a year http://www.time.com/time/health/article/…

Let's stop doctors from writing prescriptions if it saves one life it's worth it

Also do you know what kills more people than guns crime in the USA? C. difficile infections caused by antibiotics, again prescribed by doctors,, they kill an average of 14,000 people a year.
http://seattletimes.com/html/health/2020…
Fecal transplants for everyone, if it saves one life it's worth it.

Let us also ban bodies of water and boating for they kill far more people than rifles
http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsa…

Remember if it saves one life IT'S WORTH IT!

Ok. Sorry, Cienna, but what is the point of this post? Something about guns, obviously. But what?

What are you saying? Your post is confusing.

Cascadian Bacon, back for more idiot concern trolling.

Here's a thought or two to consider, CB.

Antibiotics: Only available via prescription, and only in small amounts. Consumers can't buy them, because one must be highly trained and certified to use them properly. So how about we make bullets only available "via prescription". You have to show a documentable need in order to get bullets, then you have to get them from a licensed dispenser, one that is only allowed (by law) to dispense you one or two day's worth.

And how about we license boats, since boats (and bodies of water) are dangerous. And require people to undergo a boating safety course before they are allowed to operate a boat. Because we know that boats can be dangerous if misused, and it's a fact that boater's safety courses (and requiring life jackets and other protective devices) makes boating safer.

Bonus points- how about we regulate boating manufacturers, and require them to build in passive safety features (such as padding and floatation elements) to help make boat designss safer.

Oh... wait, we already do that. Let's turn our attention to making guns safer now, since we've shown that fact-based reasonable approaches make other dangerous things safer.