In a heterosexual marriage a couple can divorce for adultery, and adultery is if you have sex with a member of the opposite sex. In a heterosexual marriage a couple vow to forsake all others ... A gay couple have no obligation to make that vow [to faithfulness] because they do not have to forsake all others because they cannot divorce for adultery. There is no requirement of faithfulness. And if there is no requirement of faithfulness, what is a marriage?
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Plus, the rifts it has caused in the Conservative party mean that the Tories are very likely to be on their way out in 2015.
Two reasons to celebrate really!
Hydrogen power ‘will be mainstream in the UK by 2025’
Seriously, Lib Dems are hopeless maroons who should all be killed. I think their "alliance" with the Tories has destroyed their chances forever, thanks to their "we will do whatever you say and ask for nothing in return even though we disagree with all of it, because we have less integrity than a house made of gelatine" policy.
Man, I've been an adulterer every time I've dipped my wick! Shiiit.
I would not be surprised if she proposes an amendment that allows her to check every married woman's vagina to check that their hymens are good and broken. Because she is all about the act of consummation.
Tell me again, how are the Tories doing at fixing the budget and economy there?
Nearly every model car is available with several diesel engine options. The Audi A6 TDI gets nearly 50 mpg. Ford, Chrysler, GM ALL sell an extensive array of diesel engines. I don't understand why they aren't common place here.
Sorry to get off track.
David Cameron demonstrated several things here. First, he might be a Tory, but he's not an old-school homophobic Tory of the type that gave us Section 28. Second, he is willing to drag Britain into the 21st century. And third, he's willing to work with the Opposition and against members of his own party if it means he can actually do the right thing (on this one issue at least). And that took guts. He should be proud of himself for what he did yesterday.
Americans would do well to note that in this case, you've got a right-wing party pushing through pro-gay legislation. In Europe, gay rights are not really a left-right issue any more. Yes, more right-wingers are homophobic than left-wingers, obviously. But plenty of people who vote for the (mainstream) right-wing parties in Britain, France, Germany and Spain are happy to support gay marriage and other gay-rights causes. It would be nice if more Republicans realised that you don't have to hate gay people in order to support free-market policies or the inalienable second-amendment right to get shot: it's not compulsory to be a bigot just because you want to support these other policies.
I don't like Cameron or the Tories, I can find some areas I can respect their opinions on, but I don't hate and despise them like I do the American GOP.
To be fair she is criticizing the bill because of how it's written. As the bill is written, adultery only exists for straight couples because the writers of the bill did not include a requirement of same sex marriages to be consummated (as is required under British law for marriages at this time) and because the writers of the bill could not come up with a definition of what same sex consummation requires.
Of course, she is using this as an excuse to vote against the law since many lawyers believe that this is just a technicality and really no big deal.
Yes, I think you've hit the nail on the head. I disagree with most of what the current UK Conservative Party does, but I don't hate them - the European centre-right is ... well, centre-right. They have economic policies that I don't think are ideal, but I accept that it's a matter of opinion. Whereas the American right.... on guns, healthcare, gay rights and a million other things, I don't think it's a matter of opinion - they're just wrong. And a lot of their policies seem to be built on mistrust, nastiness, bigotry and selfishness, which isn't to my mind, the best set of principles on which to build policy.
You're right about not wanting to export American Conservatism. Unfortunately, Australia's Tony Abbott seems to be very keen to import it. Hopefully the next election will consign him to the dustbin of history.
I proposed actual marriage to my civil partner as soon as we left the building. Time to start saving and planning! (Again)
Why didn't they just turn it into "marriage is a contract signed between two individuals" and leave it at that? Beats me.
Still lots of debating going on right now though. Most of the controversy seems to be about the fact that with marriage will come adoption rights, which same sex couples don't have access to so far (they can adopt individually but not adopt each other's children, even when they are in a civil union).