Unrelated: Does anyone know of a service in Olympia that delivers flaming bags of poop?

When Lady Gaga refused to perform at the GOP Hispanics dinner, you would outlaw that?

Would you force a Muslim caterer to serve a pork entry?

Would you force a Catholic doctor to perform a late term abortion?

If a gay sex worker were called by a straight sex client to have heterosexual sex, could they refuse?

Here's another possibility, though the company I remember (Flowers of Extinction) does not appear to be in business any longer.

A: I feel like you have more ability to choose your political spectrum.
B: I feel like as a caterer, you have a menu.
C: I would f---ing hope that the "doctor" science part of their job overrides the "invisible sky dude" crazy religious part of their life. If they think that it *is* going to interfere, hopefully they don't take a job providing abortions. That would be nonsensical on their part.
D: I feel like they would have a menu.

The flower lady sells flowers. For all your false equivalencies, you create no situation wherein something is legitimately on the menu ... but only if you pass societal muster.

@2 i'm bored, why not..

1. Republican isn't a protected class (that's probably next session). And Lady Gaga isn't a business open to the public.

2. If pork isn't on the menu, it's not a service he provides to anyone. He's not discriminating against pork-eaters...

3. A doctor can provide abortions, or not. No need for qualifications. And again, "late-term fetus" isn't a protected class.

4. I don't believe that practice is currently legal in this state.

@2 Non sequitur, fili.

@2 What the hell are you talking about? Lady Gaga does not have shelves loaded with performances to anyone who comes into her agent's office. A pizzeria isn't forced to serve hamburgers. As long as the doctor isn't performing abortions for anyone, that's not discriminatory. As long as the gay sex worker wasn't performing straight sex acts for some people and not for others, there's no discrimination. Are you really that dim or just disingenuous?

@6/8, forget it Jake, it's Chinatown.

"pork entry" does sound a little salacious, so I might be inclined to give that ol' Muslim caterer a break. it's likely been a long day, anyway.

@2, that's zero for 4.

Wanna try again?

Now, am I understanding this bill right? Discrimination would ONLY be allowed against GLBTs, yes? I mean, if someone tried to, say, refuse service to a Tea Partier or Evangelical, well that'd be illegal, but against the gayz, is okay? *headshake* The stupid. It hurts.

My religious views and rights to use cannabis have been upheld in a foreign court, but I got long odds that the Publican homey in OLY won't have my back as a conscientious objector to the drug laws.

@2 fucking Cascadian separatists. Always pissing and whining about how oppressed they are. I'm sick of it get over yourself and join the human race. Stupid religious fanatic.

As is typical of doctrinaire liberalism, they exclude one significant category:

race,
creed,
color,
national
origin,
sex,
honorably
discharged
veteran
or
11 military
status,
sexual
orientation,
or
the
presence
of
any
sensory,
12 mental,
or
physical
disability

However Age is allowed to be discriminated against with full abandon, as is typical among members of the Green Guard.

#14

What in great name is a Cascadian Separatist...and does it involve a mailing list with a weekly digest?

@17 beats me ask pig butt boy.

Oh and BTW Republicans (they no longer deserve the title conservative) discriminate against age.

Would you make a MAILMAN deliver MAIL to the MOON?

Rahrg! I'm saying ridiculous things! Be upset and respond to me!

What if hospitals weren't allowed to have doors?

RAAARRAGGHH

@19

1) If I've bought the $850,000,000 postage stamp it takes to deliver a letter to the moon, then my mailman damn well better deliver it.

2) Hospitals on the moon shouldn't be allowed to have doors, as people keep bumping into them due to the anti-gravity. That's what my letter is about.

@1 try your local high school. There are lots of guys there that specialize in that

Religion and political opinion are decisions. They are choices. One is not born a christian, else there would be no baptism. One is nor born republican, else there would be no need for party registration.

One is born gay. One does not choose to be gay. There is no gay card, no gay baptism, no gay registration process. One does not seek out a permit to own gay. One begins life as gay.

To deny services to someone based on decisions they have made is one thing. If you have committed violent crime, you will be denied a gun. If you have become drunk already, you will be denied additional alcohol.

It is monstrous to deny services based upon an accident of birth. It is equally monstrous to suggest that the accident of birth that resulted in your sexuality, gender, race, height, or any other characteristic renders you superior to those who were born differently.

My DNA trumps your religion.

#22

But according to this bill, it's okay to discriminate by age...which is a tenet of the Democrat.

The Brown Shirts are on the march.

@23: Nice try, but I can think of some instances where age discrimination would be appropriate. Live theatre performances can and should prohibit children under a certain age (to prevent disruptions). Ditto for amusement park rides or risk-inherent group activities such as whitewater rafting trips (safety issues). Seniors-only housing or housing for at-risk youth.

@24: Shall I give you the same rundown I keep giving Seattleblues? Or maybe I'll just put it this way:
Certain areas of the brain differ in structure between men and women and between straights and queers. These areas are known to be involved in attraction and arousal. Tweaking the balance of hormones in fetal rats results in predictable differences in the structure of the rat version of those areas, and ultimately queer rats.
So yes, science has a pretty good handle on what makes people gay.

26

age discrimination would be appropriate

There it is is in all it's glory friends.

It doesn't take long to expose hypocrites who are creating social law in the name of equality...but merely want to impose their flavor of fascism on the people.

@28 Of course, you'd prefer toddlers ejected from roller coasters because FREEDOM!

@28: Age already IS a federally protected class you shit-clump

23,

That's a non sequitur. Please address the argument raised in my post, if you're going to respond at all.

I hope that the bill paases, and that thousands of Washington businesses repond by refusing service to Republicans.

@29: As far as I can tell, when SROTU says "age discrimination" what he means is "young adults think I'm a creep, they won't hang out with or have sex with me, and I feel unwelcome in spaces they occupy."

He confuses age discrimination with the freedom to choose whom to associate with. He fails to recognize that the major age discrimination in North American society is - as you point out - the various public-safety related rules regarding minimum ages for activities such as driving or purchasing alcohol.

33,

You're giving SROTU too much credit. S/he is trying to derail the conversation altogether. Age discrimination is a real phenomenon, as anyone over 40 knows when they try to find work. But SROTU isn't really concerned about age discrimination in and of itself, else s/he would ahve introduced the topic in a thread that dealt with non-specific discrimination.

I don't know if s/he really even cares about the topic at all. For all we know, s/he might just enjoy rattling cages the way Faux News hosts do. Say the most offensive thing imaginable so as to kock your audience off balance, then rush in claiming victimhood in order to make your opponent feel like they've done something wrong. Treat words such as "racism", "Homophobia
and "sexism" not as terms that have real meanings, but as insults equivalent to "fuckhead" and "dipshit", and know that they have even more impact when used to strike at liberal guilt.The goal is never to hold any kind of rational discussion, or even to hold a discussion at all. The goal is to make you feel confused, bad about yourself, frustrated, and upset. To get you to loose your cool, so you look crazy. It's about victory, destroying your opponent, not about making a rational point or discussing the issues reasonably.

Supreme Ruler of Nonsense - If you sell flowers to straight people, you have to sell flowers to gay people. THE END. Your other scenarios in comment #2 make no sense (and you know it.)

@1 Yes, just not to gay people.

@39: You posit that the differences in brain structure may arise fairly late in development. My apologies for the ambiguity, but these parts of the brain are known to be mostly fixed in their basic structure fairly early on (around the time of birth).

@41: FUCK SAKE.
We don't know. We haven't scanned the brain of every queer person in existence. But there is a DAMN STRONG CORRELATION. Also, researchers were able to turn rats bisexual by messing with their brains during fetal development. If they were wrong about what causes the gay, don't you think they'd have had trouble doing that?
Stop nitpicking. We have a pretty good conception of what causes people to be queer. Deal with it.

@42 terrible troll is terrible

Does SB 5927 have a chance in hell of passing? Hope not. I can't see a State which just legalized same sex marriage turning around and okaying discrimination against gays.

Surely Washington Republicans have other things to do with their time.

@29: Why not? Apparently it's fine that toddlers get shot by their fathers and 4 year-olds shoot their stepmothers because FREEDOM! Did you hear that dickbag radio host who told the Sandy Hook parents to "go to hell" and that the "loss" of his 2nd amendment rights constituted a greater tragedy than the loss of their children? Reason and empathy are not to be expected from these assholes.