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The bi stuff, sure, you were actually an asshole about that for years, and continued to yank the chains of the easily yankable long after you'd come around on the facts, so I get how some people aren't ready to make nice yet.
But transphobic? Every time I've asked any of the Tumblr Social Justice warriors about it, they've insisted that this was all just settled fact -- water is wet, the sun is warm and Dan Savage is the mortal enemy of all transwomen -- but the only actual evidence I've seen produced to support the point is a few columns where you used the phrase "shemales" without sufficient trigger-warning disclaimers.
What gives?
... I hope.
Very nice pat on the back, Dan. As a human curiosity, I wonder: this one email cancels out how many of the ones that go something like "I've listened to you for like-EVER and here's my question that reveals I didn't hear one damn thing you said?"
@9,
I don't know. It seems like many young trans activists are pissed off at everyone, and even more so at anyone who's ostensibly an ally.
17, Dan gets in trouble for having used "tranny" before it was declared off-limits and his use of "she-male" to describe sex workers who self identify as "she-male" is viewed as a hate crime.
I once defended him citing his long history with the drag community and was told that drag queens are like the KKK for the transgender community.
People like that are fucking loser psycho people who abuse animals or torture insects. Some words drip with vile and malicious intentions, but this letter is fairly neutral. For a prime example of the bullshit reverse psychology letters see this example of pathetic passive aggressive dipshitism
http://promiscuitykeepers.com/2012/03/27…
Unfortunately, I'm more familiar with the Dan Savage who assumes all bisexual male are either hopelessly in denial or lying to get laid, and though he has come around to admitting we exist, he refuses to let us self-identify until we prove ourselves.
See video from May 30, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtFchJzEk…
Okay we exist, but we still can't be trusted? How many other problems with this study exist? Can we even trust anybody to self-identify their sexual orientation without requiring videographic proof of failure or success to become aroused by watching porn that someone else selected?
Mr Savage, I was that 16-year-old bisexual boy you told was lying. Now I'm a 36-year-old bisexual male. The only time I've ever lied was when I sought the shelter of calling myself "gay" to protect myself from people like you.
My question then is the question I ask now: what is your problem with us?!!! Why the mistrust? Why the suspicion? And why can't you admit you're wrong without taking the same tired dig at us in the same breath?
I suppose you will deny that you are Republican, but I really should ask first and give you a chance to answer.
Are you saying, comment number 29, that you are not a Republican?
I can't answer for Dan, but I can say that there are many, many, many people among the living today that walk around literally oblivious to what is right in front of their eyes
Nobody should ever feel guilty or shameful about sexual desires so long as said those desires are for adults of legal age, fully knowledgeable and by their own free will desire that which is explicitly consented to,
you don't need to justify anything, you shouldn't be taught to believe you need any reason, there is nothing wrong with whatever you feel like. There are many things in life that need no justification other then it being your personal preference, which you are allowed to change on a daily basis if you felt like it.
When it comes to something sacred and as personal as sex is, you should know your rights, you should have been taught have to safeguard your mind from hateful people.
If you honestly believe that Dan had intended to cause you harm or pain, it's more than likely your mind is influenced by those you'd be better off not under the influence.
If your words are sincere, there is help, let me know if you need help, and I am truly sorry if I was wrong about your intent. But this is a war as serious as the fabled war in Heaven, and hatred, even if unrecognized cannot and will not ever prevail.
Would it matter if I were a Republican? Would you believe me if I said no? And if I said no, would you automatically assume I were a Democrat? Can I still be a Republican if I vote other?
What if I were a 16-year-old bisexual who has only had one sexual partner, who happened to be male? What if that one sex partner were female? What if that one sex partner were trans- or mixed- gendered? How would Dan Savage allow me to identify?
See the problem? There's a difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior. And yes, there is such a thing as sexual preference too -- for most people, it's top/bottom, gentle/rough, intimate/animalistic -- and for bisexuals preference might even include male/female.
Dan Savage insists on using a discredited and rather patronizing definition for bisexuality, informed only by his own limited experience. This definition enables him to call us liars and infidels at every turn. And while he seems more willing to accept our existence than in years ago -- I once read a column where he invented scores of new words rather than admit a male writer might be bi -- he STILL gives us no respect, no recognition of our own as humans, until we somehow prove we meet "his" definition of bi.
That's not the speech of an educated spokesperson for human rights, that's the speech of a self-serving, bigoted pundit.
Whether or not the reason is money, as in you are getting paid to fight marriage equality becoming a reality, or whether you are bitter for personal reasons and want to see blood, I have no way of knowing.
But it is quite evident, that you are either in denial, a liar, or else derailing equal rights is the underlying agenda you are not saying.
If you honestly are coming from a place your claim to be, I give you my word I am sorry. I am sorry for the only way to bring about equal rights is approach it in this way. I am telling you, it doesn't matter if you have no choice, if it's genetic doesn't matter, but until the People's Voice is one that is heard as the true voice (such as greater than 90% voter turnout as opposed to 30-40% today because of the voting process is intentionally kept to a old and outdated, less secure less accurate form of counting each registered voter's vote)
Until that truthful day arrives, I apologize because your position poses a threat to derail progress. I know that is not comforting to hear, but if you need help I can help you get it.
The day the online voting becomes a reality and political parties that justify fear mongering and out right lies are no longer a threat to democracy, things will be different.
bigotry is bigotry is bigotry, and it is sick and wrong. However I suspect that the only reason Dan took the position he did, was because he had to take a defensive approach so that truth and justice as well as Freedom, will proceed to carry on.
Had the timing been different, and Republicans not willing to take advantage of any situation no matter how morally wrong, ethically wrong, or far from the truth their position may be, none of this would be necessary.
If they recognized that the way they are behaving is NOT righteous, but rather embracing hatred, none of this would be necessary. I am sorry that it is.
If anything, you may want to contact the Republican party as for another two years or so, they would pay you a salary that could comfortably support a family for doing exactly what you are doing here, but on a larger scale and less anonymously.
If you honestly are going through what you say you are, you should at least get paid for your troubles.
bigotry is wrong, is you really did understand right from wrong and when it's appropriate to discriminate (which in such a case it's more commonly known as preference) you would fully recognize that Dan is no bigot.
You would have no problem understanding how and why it is wrong to require your freedom of will to be only that which is not your inherent choice
and anybody that tells you different, tell them that I, Dusty, said to:
Frankly, go fuck yourself and I had honestly hoped things would not have turned out this way, but that it seems inevitable.
You have no idea how much I wanted to be able to affiliate with republicans and prominent people in the IT industry.
Unfortunately that is not possible at this point in time
http://masculinetoast.tumblr.com/post/12…
I don't think people are asking for Dan to shut up entirely. I think that the queer community at large might agree that he's done great work in normalizing a small segment of queer culture to the general public.
I think what people are asking for an acknowledgment from him that what he said and continues to say regarding an entire spectra of binary and nonbinary sexualities and gender identities, is fucked, and that he might consider working on it.
But all we get back is "nuh huh" or some sophmoric retort. We're not saying that you haven't helped some folks, because you have. We're saying that you need to own up to your shit and work on it. That's why the younger queers in this town and everywhere else have called shenanigans on you, broski.
Dan Savage and transphobia
ultravioletgaze:
I have decided to gather some choice quotes made by Dan Savage. My extensive research consisted of googling âDan Savage transphobiaâ.
You might want to stop reading here if you are having a very dysphoric day, or have met your transphobic bullshit quota for the day.
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1) Column: Bad Tranny.
Dan Savage responds to a single parent who recently found out their ex partner is a transwoman. His use of the word tranny is only the tip of the iceberg.
The tranny activists are going to jump down my throat for this, but⌠it seems to me that your ex couldâve put off the sex change until after his son was out of high school.
Perhaps Iâm a transphobic bigot, but I honestly think waiting a measly 36 months to cut your dick is a sacrifice any father should be willing to make for his 15-year-old son. Call me old-fashioned.
Unfortunately, your ex wasnât willing to make that sacrifice (selfish tranny!), or it never occurred to him to make that sacrifice (stupid tranny!).
I hope that in the long run your son eventually accepts his dad/mom/whatever and forgives his dad/ mom/whatever for being imperfect
When your son is an adult, heâll hopefully be able to forgive his dad/mom/whatever for his selfish decision to run off and have a sex-change operation âŚ
2) Column: Deep Love.
Dan Savage responds to a man who had sex with a transwoman prostitute.
ââŚgoing down on a shemale escort shores up your heterosexual bona fides. Gay guys donât frequent and/or fellate shemale escorts (on purpose or by accident); getting with shemales is an entirely straight-male pursuit.â
Of course you arenât totally straightâtry thinking of yourself as something more than straight, not lessâbut youâre close enough that you can round yourself down to straight with a clear conscience. (Offer void the day you start blowing hemale escorts.)
3) Transgendered Washington State Attorney General Rob McKenna Betrays His Community
Dan Savage falsely labels Washington State Attorney Rob McKenna as a transgender man as a âjokeâ. No evidence exists of Rob McKenna being transgender.
Itâs staggering that Rob McKenna, a female-to-male transsexual, is making it harder for other FTMs (and MTFs) to access the life savng sex-reassignment surgery that allowed Rob to become the man he is today. Rob had the resources to finance his own sex-reassigment surgeryâpresumablyâbut that doesnât excuse Robâs cruel disregard for his low-income transgendered brothers and sisters or his making common cause with anti-trans bigots in states like Virginia and Mississippi.
At the bottom of the page Dan Savage writes
This is a joke, obviously. Rob McKenna is not transgender. Follow the link for more.
A joke? Really? After getting called out for this insulting bullshit Savage writes this in a later article about a trans student:
(Oh, and folks who want me to apologize for this: Okay, I willâafter we raise at least 2K for Juin and his family. Otherwise, meh, Iâll just keep hating on trans people like the raging anti-trans beegoat that I am.)
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Okay. I think that is all the research I am willing to do for now. I can only wade through so much bullshit in a day. I might add to this later if I find more examples of Savageâs transphobia.
I am saying that being honest about what you are made at is the only thing that gains my respect. Some lying two-faced piece of shit that gets paid by a political party to pretend he is a liberal leaning voter, when all he does is post shit that sounds pro-human rights, but is intentionally attempting to sabotage laws that make against wrongful discrimination such as bans on gay marriage or bigoted gender policies.
See comment #24 for a link to a perfect example at how subtle these worthless piece of shit sell out writers who push right wing politics wearing a liberal mask for money. I actually have more respect for the idiots who don't recognize their own hatred then I do for a person who does it for money.
Dan can be a prick, I get that, but as far as trans people go I wish I could help them. I wish I could have been there when they were kids and taught them how to protect their minds from adopting unrecognized hatred as truth in their core beliefs. It is hard for me to believe that bigoted assholes and the affliction/persecution of trans people is not the main reason women born in a man's body get a sex change.
I wish the beliefs of ignorant and arrogant men of long ago had not been enforced as the Truth, and that people were taught the responsibility for every freedom that is sacred, and therefore the decisions made are up to each and every individual for themselves to make and not feel even pressured at all by others, esp others who claim authority on right and wrong.
I truly am sorry if I judged you wrong, and this is not a personal attack for undisclosed reasons or it is not politically motivated, and I will find you help.
But unfortunately the republican party has a very covert, extremely well funded and well organized team of internet specialists who have one goal and one goal only, to enforce the very bigoted interpretation of the bible (which happens to be a flat out wrong interpretation of the bible) because those hateful evil people actually believe they are doing God's work.
If you cannot tell the difference between the ravenous wolves that are the evil of the republican party from Dan saying something insulting or just being an outright dick, I can point out the difference to you.
The first sorting out the good from the bad there can be no mistakes. Don't make the wrong calls in the first sorting