Actually, you can find vegan food even on campus at the UW, at Cultivate, 1218 NE Campus Parkway.

But .. not sure if they're open on the Fourth ...

Will, you've completely missed the point of this post.

@3 - We've discussed this. Will in Seattle is a variation on the Cleverbot model. The program isn't quite capable of parsing grammar or intent, but it automatically generates a comment based on key words it recognizes.

Does the fact that I will grill my meatless things post flesh charring make me an apostate vegetarian? I'm not talking vegan here...just your run-of-the-mill non-meat eater.

Megan are you a vegetarian on purely taste/nutritional grounds? I don't understand why the presence of some meat juices on vegetarian food would cause a fuss at a barbecue. From a moral standpoint, if you're willing to eat in the same proximity as meat eaters you're already condoning that behavior to some small extent. You're still not actively participating in killing animals by tasting a smidgen of another person's meat on your black bean burger.

No, my point is that being vegan and driving in your car from North Seattle to Capitol Hill kills more animals and uses more decomposed animals (gasoline) than eating locally. Make your own locally sourced vegan BBQ, it's not that hard. Choose an extra-firm tofu, a good sauce, grill some corn, or just micronuke it (keeps the juices, energy comes from hydro instead of dirty dirty coal).

The city is big. There's vegan and vegetarian food in Ballard, Rainier Valley (hint - use the lightrail), West Seattle, Georgetown.

;-)

But, yes, I posted it so you'd talk about stuff. That's my stick.

You do realize that you can take a spot where a burger was, give it a scrub with a grill brush that has been doused with a little water, wait five minutes for your corner to heat up again and then toss your veggie option on there.

Tempeh-tantrum averted.

@ 9 is right. Unless you want the grate to never have grilled flesh, then there's no difference between getting your stuff on the grill first and doing it after scrubbing the grill (which should be done between batches of food anyway).

@8: it's "schtick."

(Ignoring the rest of this conversation . . .)

I don't see RSVP info on the site or the facebook. Or any mention of this 7/4 wonderland. How do I do it?

"Mac and yease" sounds like something Kanye would eat.

No, @8, you're still missing the point. She's located a vegan Fourth of July BBQ - nobody said anything about driving anywhere or the city being small or lacking vegetarian/vegan choices or the environment or anything else you circled back with in your second comment. From your first comment - "But .... Not sure if they're open on the fourth ..." = YOU MISSED THE POINT.

Ps I have been to it before and yes it is yummy

@14 - We have our best technicians working on the Will in Seattle. Please remember that it is still in the testing stages, and its comments will not always actually relate to the conversation.

You're vegetarian? Is Bethany Jean Clement an asshole to you like 24/7? That girl really has a problem, you know?

@15 lemme know if I can get in on the beta of the next release. Also: is there a patch yet for the "sgt. doom" bug?

@11 autoKorrect does that. Bygones.

@12 oops. That would be useful. DEETS PLEASE!

We all need more protein, but be careful where and when you get it

While Recommended Dietary Allowances have been in use for years, there is mounting agreement in the scientific community that our optimal protein needs may be higher — perhaps significantly so — than the RDA.

“To me it should never be the RDA, it should be the MDA, the minimum dietary allowance,” said McMaster University researcher and protein expert, Dr. Stuart Phillips in an interview. “In other words, if you were doing little to nothing, you were not worrying about the protein mass in your body, you weren’t older, you weren’t growing, you weren’t sick, you weren’t a kid, that might define your protein needs that way.”

http://life.nationalpost.com/2013/06/25/…

@14 there's one in Brattleboro VT at my dad and his wife's place. Music and dancing too.

Though I was formerly vegetarian myself, these days I feel that many people are vegan/vegetarian just to be a pain in the ass to their friends.

This thread is so much fun. I can't wait for Mr Herriman's response to @21, Will's response to that, and whatever else Mac has to add. I hope it goes on forever.

@22

Or maybe they're taking a hard line on their dietary rules as an excuse to not show up at your thing. Do you bug them with your gun opinions or conspiracy theories much? Bring your gun to their house? Could be why.

Because does it really make sense to use vegetarianism as a tool to be a pain in the ass to somebody you like? Sure if it was your boss or your jerkwater coworkers, or the relatives you wish you didn't have to see, or the staff of the airline you despise, then it would be logical. Of course you'd maybe want to be a pain in the ass to them. But your actual friends?

Can that high a percentage of the population be dysfunctional? Or just you? The odds say it's probably just you.

@8: I see you're an ethical Freegan.

Or a holier-than-thou dickbag.

@25 I'm not. But most vegans tend to be. My dad went vegan because his wife did, actually.

Look, it's great that there's ONE VEGAN BBQ in Seattle. But there used to be ONE VEGAN RESTAURANT in Seattle - and now there are MANY.

By the way, Beerfest is next week - and it has CIDER!

@7 It's a plus that I don't have to kill an animal for my dinner, but I've never liked the texture of meat. And I really, really don't like the taste of red meat and seafood.

I'd totally grill my bean burger on a grill that's been scrubbed down between uses, though. I'm not hardcore about it.

@12 Here! RSVP details here! http://plumbistro.tumblr.com/post/521451…

Thanks for the laugh yelahneb, but I doubt it's patchable. Just throw it away.

@24
Actually I generally prepare vegetarian meals when hanging out with vegetarian friends.

What I am referring to is that person who can’t go anywhere but the vegan restraint or can't use any pans that touched meat ever and who is generally a whining little bitch that puts a damper on everyone’s night complaining about things that hurt their delicate feelings.

Someone like you.

Is it possible for a vegan to rotisserie? Because for me, it's just not a barbeque without something on the rottisserie.

OK, here's a thought experiment. Imagine I have a spoon that I use to clean the cat's litter box. I'll scrub it really well before using it for a serving spoon for the soup. How do you feel reading that? Eeeeew, right? Even though you know it's totally clean, there's still that yuck factor. It's completely irrational, but it still makes you really uncomfortable. Well, for a long time vegan, meat is no less gross than used kitty litter. The thought that my food is sharing utensils with charred corpses is more than a little disturbing. When I eat at a restaurant that serves meat, there is always some level of background grossout. This is especially true if they use carbon steel woks, as is common in Asian restaurants. A thorough scrubbing ruins these woks, makes them rust. Instead, a quick rinse with plain water, with a bamboo scrubber, and it's on to the next dish. The resulting patina is part of the flavor of wok cookery. When you eat food from a wok, you eat everything that's ever been cooked in it. Some people in some Asian cultures eat dog. I have seen illegal dog restaurants in Korea. I listened to one of my students extol the supposed health benefits of dog meat in my English class. Would you eat pork cooked in a wok that you knew was used for dog meat? If you had a choice, wouldn't you rather eat somewhere that didn't serve dog? Is a vegan's preference for vegan restaurants, for using equipment that only touched plant matter, really so different?