Presently the internationally distributed version of Stolichnaya is not a Russian vodka but is distilled and bottled in Latvia.
Here is a list of Russian vodkas currently available in the US: Dovgan, Gold Symphony, Standart, Hrenovuha, Kauffman, Kubanskaya, Moskovskaya, Narodnaya, Pyatizvyozdnaya, Putinka, Rodnik, Ruskova, Russian Standard, Shustov, Starka, Stolnaya, Youri Dolgoruki
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Oh wait. WE'RE LIVING IN IT.
Come on, name names.
Not trying to start a fight, just trying to distinguish the target.
There's no reason to lump Russian nationals or ex-pats into this.
* every bar should not only stop carrying Stoli but should put up big signs saying why, maybe with an ugly picture of a Russian gay parader getting his face broken from your link.
* The straight athletes in the US team have to protest too, even if it results in punishment from the team -- ESPECIALLY if it results in punishment from the team. I'd like to see a gay rights banner, in Russian, during the opening ceremonies march. Or 200-odd lavender gloves, one on each right hand, or something. Create an incident, but make it big enough to have a real impact on the news. If they all get arrested, so much the better -- imagine the furore if hundreds of athletes get dragged out of the stadium during the ceremony.
I've been in that stadium where Tommy Smith and John Carlos held their fists aloft, the Estadio Olimpico Universitario, and a little chill ran up and down my spine (though that may also have been because I was looking at the pit where one of my childhood heroes Bob Beamon destroyed the long jump record). Maybe somebody will feel that way about a Russian stadium in 45 years. Too long, too long.
Danny dear, please update us on the Utah boycott.
btw, did you notice that Salt Lake is the most upwardly mobile city in the USA?
Or we could build a hydrogen economy.
Home to Little Prince Boy George.
Latvia is independent of Russia, and is culturally very different. If this is true, you'll be hurting the wrong country.
Yes, you're right. It sounds like buying more Stoli would do harm to Russia as they lost control of the brand. So drink up!
As the raised fist was a gesture--literally--of Black Power/Pride, is their a queer equivalent? Dan, can you come up with--and globally popularize--a strong, international hand-sign for Queer Pride? In time for the Olympics? Please?
Now if this were San Francisco in 1974 and Coors beer, then maybe...
Interestingly, another lawsuit brought by Russian Standard alleged that it was all distilled in Latvia, but SPI claims it's distilled in the Russian cities of Kaliningrad and Tambov, but is then shipped to Latvia for bottling and export. But... they also admitted to smuggling the vodka out of Russia by labeling it under another name.
I don't care for Stoli myself. But it sounds like a boycott of Stoli may not impact Russia meaningfully... or maybe it would? If only there was a more recent article. (Although various blogs and info sites confirm Stoli's current Latvian origin.)
Make it backfire on Russia - that is the way to fight back.
And every country would be indirectly required to take sides, not only EU and US, but also Australia, NZ, Argentina, Brazil, South Africa...and on and on and on. Russia would achieve exactly the opposite of what they intended. It needs to be part of the uniform, rather than an individual choice. Individuals would obviously just become targets for expressing support for LGBT. The different Olympic delegations that are now thinking about their stance on the matter and whether they are going to boycott, hopefully decide to go this route in sufficient enough numbers. This way the athletes would have their games, yet the Olympic spirit and oath would be honored and Russia as a country in its human rights violation would find itself exposed.
Please help spread this idea!
I'll DOUBLE boycott that one.
Your constant mocking of things that I post in the same gainsaying manner is, I believe, in violation of the terms and conditions of the comments within SLOG.
If you persist, I will make make case to the Editors, based on the terms and conditions stated below:
I hope this is fair warning.
So it's easier just to order Absolut?
That said, given that I can be arrested in Russia just because some cop suspects I'm pro-gay means I won't ever be visiting there. Not that I really wanted to mind you, but it would have been cool to check out St. Petersburg at some point.
Kind of a useless country, isn't it?
Maybe you could tell an official Government representative that there are plenty of good reasons for them to change their policy. Maybe open up the dialogue with a carrot and not a stick?
For more information on the Russian Consular Offices
That being said, the IOC should NOT be holding Olympics in a state that openly has these types of policies. Forger a boycott - the games should either be immediately moved or simply cancelled, and the shame should rest fully on the Russian electorate.
I'm throwing a plug out for Effen vodka--Dutch and so so so good. Especially love the cucumber flavor this time of year, throw some in a glass with ice, a splash of sprite, and a lime = refreshing drunken goodness :)
/pours another screwdriver
It's not just the Russian government. The whole society has gone crazy about the gays.
Media Statement: Stolichnaya Premium Vodka has and continues to be a fervent supporter and friend of the LGBT community. The brand's ongoing commitment to the LGBT community currently includes an exclusive national partnership with Gaycities.com & Queerty.com in search of the Most Original Stoli Guy. Previous national initiatives included serving as the official vodka of Miami Gay Pride Week as well as ongoing events with a focus on Pride month. While Stoli is made from Russian ingredients, the brand is not a Russian company and is not affiliated and/or tied to the Russian government. Stoli firmly opposes the beliefs supported by the Russian Government in relation to the LGBT community.
· Stolichnaya Premium Vodka continues to proudly support the LGBT community with this year’s nationwide Most Original Stoli Guy competition in partnership with GayCities & Queerty
· Stolichnaya Premium Vodka strongly opposes the beliefs supported by the Russian Government in relation to the LGBT community
William Grant & Sons
Division Marketing Manager
mobile (1): 619-733-6594
Failing that, a publicized and organized boycott of all Olympic sponsors and advertisers doing business in the US (and unrelenting negative press painting them as homophobes) is the best open channel. Put Coca Cola, P&G, Visa, Nike, McDonald's and the rest of them on notice now that if they sponsor the games or its athletes in any way they will be mercilessly smeared as homophobic and you might get traction. With a little luck Chick-Filet will be the only US sponsor / advertiser. Mess with the revenue stream (both the Olympic committee's and NBC's) and you might make someone with power give a shit.
Stoli is small potatoes....
Holding Stoli, who, as a company markets a very pro-gay position, responsible for the Duma & Putin is equivalent to holding American Airlines (which launched its Rainbow campaign, an LGBT-dedicated sales staff and Web site to serve the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community, way back in 1994) responsible for the actions of Congress and Obama.
Why does the gay community always lash out at its supporters over injustice. I assume, in this case, its because the only Russian product we can think of is vodka... Particularity Stoli... Probably because Stoli sponsors our parades, advertises in our media and is front and center in our bars.
Should I also cancel my week in Aruba because of, you know, Jamaica?
Way to go Dan. Persecute the victim.
In effect, Dan, you seek to punish a potential victim of the law where you should be supporting its defiance of the law.
How about finding a Russian (not Latvian) company with a bad (or even no) record on gay issues and stick it to them instead. Or is your world so small the Stoli is the only "Russian" product you can think of on a sunny Thursday afternoon?
Change has to come from within Russia, not from the west. There are plenty Russians who are appalled by the acts of those Gopniks, and have no problem with homosexuals.
These laws are being used by Putin to divert the public's attention away from his political parties blatant corruption and persecution of those who have called him out on it.
BTW, did you know vodka (wódka) is just the diminutive of water (woda)? It's like aguacita.
Way to stick it in and break it off.
We haven't learned much, have we?
Way to stick it in and break it off.
So companies like Smirnoff who are foreign owned but still have products produced in Russia
OK, I still think he's a pretty OK guy, in spite of that. I can be an asshole too sometimes. But he's dead wrong here. And so are those of you who agree with him.
See this GailyGrind report from yesterday, Russian Neo Nazi Groups Tricking and Torturing Gay Male Teenagers: http://www.thegailygrind.com/2013/07/25/…
We should stop doing business with Russia altogether, although our continuing to do business with places such as Saudi Arabia with its violations of the rights of women and queers shows that capitalism trumps human rights.