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Well, to be fair, a lot of people's waistlines have expanded over the last forty years because they were little kids then.

So, after Sawant seizes Boeing the people's/factory worker army will turn around and seize all the planes at SeaTac to be run by the people. Then we can all enjoy the service our comrades at Aeroflot enjoy.

Although, aeroflot does provide actual food on airplanes so maybe this isn't so bad.
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I can't stand to give my money to people who so clearly disrespect me.
how I feel everytime Goldy points out that I read this tripe for free.

Flying is horrible. HORRIBLE. "Asking to be treated like shit" about covers it. And the poor flight attendants, too, what a lousy thankless job that's become. Bleaugh.

Extra time to practice folding fitted sheets.

P.S. last night I was doing what I always do this time of year, looking on Facebook to see what I can find to sneer at or envy among old acquaintances. Among my long-ago first boyfriend's long-ago first girlfriend's vacation photos saw some matter-of-fact ones with her whole happy family playing around together aboard what I recognized as the private jet. Grr.

I knew something was wrong when i flew SW Air last week. I haven't flown in about ten years, was the skinniest guy in the three seat monty game, sat in the middle seat and lost the battle for the arm rests. I flew for three hours and boy, were my arms tired.

That aside i felt it at least an equalizing experience, no first class thus we all suffered together, kinda like riding the bus.

@7, I usually suggest raising the armrests to my seatmates. If they're amenable, it's generally more comfortable for all. Exception: girthy seatmates. They need all the containment available. I hope it makes them feel more secure, like a papoose.

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NASA has already worked out the next bar in efficient people packing. The downside, you must be able to climb into the top berth and all drinks must be served with sealed containers and straws.

I. Fucking. Hate. Flying. And as a man of 6'2 any more inchest removed from the already too tight space just makes it worse for me. Raise that exponentially if the asshole in front me reclines back (and they almost always do).

It's an endless train of waiting in lines, sitting in cramped spaces, wondering if your luggage will actually make it, dealing with other peoples awful habits and generally being treated like cattle.

Goldy, this makes no sense, sorry. If the airline puts fewer people on the plane, how can it charge them the same? You're assuming that regulation results in a way to force the airline industry to operate at lower profit margins. That's not what the paper you linked to concludes.

What you're actually hoping for is that enough people care about having a couple of inches of legroom that everyone can be forced to pay for it. Well, the industry has concluded that that is simply not the case. The vast majority of people are willing to be treated like shit for a couple of hours to save twenty (or fifty) bucks. Just like the vast majority of people are willing to eat factory farmed meat, shop at Walmart and endure mindless broadcast TV advertising to save money. Of course, there are a few who are willing to pay extra to shop at Whole Foods, subscribe to NFL TV and fly business class. But not very many. You've got a long, regulatory way to go if you think you can enforce all people to pay a little extra so that you particularly sensitive people can dictate your personal standards.

In fact, you'd like Japan. Just about everything there is very high quality, and very expensive. (For example, you can't buy a clunker there, because the government requires a very high standard of operation for used cars--after ten years or so, each used car requires an annual inspection that can run north of $1000. That particular policy has the corollary effect of goosing domestic automobile production by encouraging the purchase of new cars.)

I don't know. I fly a fair amount. Long-ish flights, too (non-stops to Boston and shit). It's not all that bad. Goldy's just a grumpy fuck.

TRUTH.

I fly a fair amount. I am short, so legroom isn't a problem but have broad 18-19" shoulders that don't fit in the sit. I fly first class as often as I can, but for coach I always plan ahead and book a window seat so I can lean sideways against it. I actually love flying, I grew up in large family with a very modest income, my fist flight was as an adult. I fell blessed to be able to travel the world.

@14, that is a great attitude, and I'll try to remember it the next time I have to/can afford to fly somewhere.

oh please. the reason you're not flying is that you have nowhere to go.

A time traveler from a hundred years ago (or a peasant from a present day third world nation) would be amazed that society has progressed so much as to spoil people into thinking that travelling thousands of miles in a few hours is really something to complain about.

The whining, it burns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7rIUNnMY…

I'm convinced that airline seats were designed by Chairman Mao to get political prisoners to confess.

Flying has become less fun and less gracious, there's no doubt. But our own hometown airline, Alaska, has been consistently profitable since 2009, is a leader in recycling, invests in a fuel-efficient fleet with ergonomic seating and continuously wins awards for its mileage program. Nothing will make the Northwest Deli Pack in coach or the chicken-feta wrap with couscous in first taste great, nor is there any easy (financially reasonable) solution for that tighter legroom...that said, because of these things I fly Alaska almost exclusively and am pleased they are so financially successful.

Less flying = smaller carbon footprint = win