Dear Gawd. My condolences to that officer's family.

I don't understand why these transit police officers were searching a residence.

"Not sure why more Americans don't fear keeping one in the home?"

Because they are not afraid.

Sad story, but it makes me sick every time I read "the first fatality" I know they are talking about the first fatality for THEM but it's an insult to the memory of Oscar Grant, and anyone else murdered, excuse me, accidentally shot to death by BART officers.

@3 I own any number of dangerous things in my home. Like a table saw. Yes, I have a healthy goddamn respect for the damage that thing can do. A friend of mine is missing four fingers thanks to accidentally sawing them off years ago.

Call it fear if you want. Same thing. Any gun owner that doesn't have that respect tinged with the fear of things going wrong shouldn't own a gun.

@3

Dude. Afraid is all you are. Everything you say is an expression of the fear that determines your every choice. You really think you're fooling anybody?

According to the real firearms experts, the military, if you're not practicing an HOUR A DAY on the range (or weekly all-day turns), you're not trained with your firearm. You're just waving around an adult pacifier that may be calming you psychologically but is seriously damaging your safety and that of those around you.

@3: You will be. You WILL be.

@5
Goldy called it "fear". I even quoted it for you. If you have a problem with Goldy's usage then bring it up with him.

@3 They have the guns because they fear the boogey man. The Gun Nut Death Cult is at its core based on fear and insecurity.

I dunno, to me this sounds a bit like police trying to be too military-swat without good stress training. Vests aren't foolproof, but something tells me it was a wild shot and I'm not sure why the BART force would be the best choice for serving the warrant regarding theft of fellow BART force property

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/BART…
a probation search - one involving the empty apartment of a suspect who has been in custody since last week
....
Nelson said the shooting happened after several BART officers went to an apartment in a modern complex of three-story buildings to search a home connected to a man suspected of committing robberies on BART property.

Sources identified that suspect as John Henry Lee, 20. He was bitten by a police dog and arrested by San Leandro police Thursday after officials said he led officers on a 20-minute chase into Oakland. Lee had been armed with a handgun and was driving a Honda stolen from a BART lot, police said.

The officers who were conducting the search in Dublin - all of whom wore bulletproof vests but were not part of a SWAT team - forced entry into the apartment, Nelson said, before "one officer fired a shot, which fatally struck another officer."

Gosh, F.U., awfully defensive, aren't you?

You DO know that's a sign of fear (fear of criticism or of being challenged, to be precise) yes?

@3, 9: American states with higher rates of gun ownership tend to have higher rates of suicide. You can lie all you want, but nobody will ever take you seriously until you start accepting what the facts say.

@13
My internet stalker who makes thinly veiled suggestions that I kill myself, why are you limiting yourself to only American states?

There is an entire world out there that you, my internet stalker who makes thinly veiled suggestions that I kill myself, are ignoring.

But given that you had to be corrected on whether a negative suicide existed or not
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives…
"This doesn't mean that the number you added was negative,"

And you have no idea what a negative correlation is
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives…
"There is no such thing as a negative suicide, but there is such thing as a negative correlation."

I have an internet stalker.
And my internet stalker likes to make thinly veiled suggestions that I kill myself.

Oh give us a fucking break, unbalanced.

which is what you are, full stop.

Gun nuts, sigh.

@14: I bet if you stop commenting on this site completely, the very scary venomlash will stop "stalking" you.

@14: Don't point to your inability to read and then claim that you had to correct me about something.

@17: It's true!

I fully support the disarming of the BART police.

@7

Yes the "experts" in the military.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC36u2xha…

@20
Traditionaly BART officers can kill with impunity.

In Failifornia Law Enforcement is clearly superior to the unarmed peasantry.

@7 And don't forget the military's high body count from friendly fire.

@18
My internet stalker who makes thinly veiled suggestions that I kill myself, those are direct quotes from you with the links to prove it.

I have an internet stalker.
And my internet stalker likes to make thinly veiled suggestions that I kill myself.

@23: Yes, those are direct quotes from me. No, those quotes don't prove what you think they do. (Anyone who follows the links will be reminded of just how idiotic you are.) Here, lemme try:

"I have an internet stalker." (source)
This proves that your pockets are full of cooked spaghetti and you eat your own boogers. Don't try to deny it, that's a direct quote from you with the link to prove it!

@24
My internet stalker who makes thinly veiled suggestions that I kill myself, those are direct quotes from you with the links to prove it.
Now you don't know what a direct quote is?

I have an internet stalker.
And my internet stalker likes to make thinly veiled suggestions that I kill myself.