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Is this inherent to the process, our police letting us down or some combination of factors?
Fucking trashy drunk attackers.
Also, I know filing reports suck, but I wish he'd reconsider. Reports help because not filing them keeps the crimes invisible.
I hope no one comes in here telling her what did she expect walking home at 3am in a short skirt.
I think Ade needs to file a report, though; these guys may do it again, and if they're caught, having a report on file and being able to identify them later on in a line up will be important.
I'm sorry, but I agree that Ade should report anyways. And out-of-control douche-bros need to be controlled, with electric shocks if necessary.
I was wondering about that, and I wonder if that's what SPD would do today. I'm kind of giving them the benefit of the doubt that in a city such as this in the modern age, they might be more sensitive to crime victims.
Don't start a comment with "I'm not blaming the victim," and then go on to blame the victim. It makes you look like an asshole.
Pony: please get on this.
It's often embarrassing - you tell the Uber driver or cabbie where you're going (uh, 3 or 4 blocks, sir) and they think you're lazy and/or crazy. How do you tell that driver that you'd rather just walk, but since Condo Boom 2013, since Capitol Hill became Capitol HEIGHTS, you're terrified of getting gay bashed or worse.
Capitol Hill needs more police patrol on the weekends. The douche-bros are out of control, and nobody is safe anymore. Its sad and disgusting.
Ade, I am so glad you kicked one of your attackers in the face.
It is time to reboot Q Patrol. Considering the fratty mobs roaming the Hill, it could lead to some real Warriors-type shit. But one good and prominent homophobe ass-whup could make sure visitors understand the terms of visiting Cap Hill.
To the thugs standing on the corner of Pike and 10th, who knocked my friends hat off her head one afternoon last summer, as we casually walked by—telling her she wasn't "a man": My friends stopped me—next time I will bash back. You're gonna get a face full of pepper spray or maybe I will try to dot one of your eyes with a fist full of brass knuckle. (this is an absolutely immature and dangerously stupid reaction, but sometimes the bully needs to be reminded that he is, in fact, the coward)
Like maybe it's time to buy a can of mace and/or a taser, and start taking out some of these motherfuckers ourselves. Ade kicking that asshole in the face was a good start, but I'd like to see some guerrilla sting operations...send out a vulnerable looking gay man and shadow him home with 10-12 hulking muscle boys waiting for someone to fuck with him.
Create some consequences for these bastards.
Come to think of it, what WERE they planning on doing if Ade had turned out to be a girl?
I really think this needs to be reported.
My friend was harassed in MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON. A nice, sunny summer afternoon... It was so unexpected and so goddamn unfair.
Douche Bros don't only attack at night. This makes it difficult to organize a defense.
The other part me wonders, who exactly are these dudes that would attack someone for being in drag/being gay/whatever? What do they get out of it that's worth risking a night/month/2 years in jail for? There are cheaper, more legal thrills; one could fly to a number of third world countries and pay a relative pittance to watch (or participate) in some really ill shit.
Not surprised that this thread is turning into a troll party. I guess the asshole factory just let out, and all the little people are thinking someone actually cares that they are furiously typing anonymous nonsense, into the anonymous nonsense comment void.
Buy a container of pepper spray. Keep it IN YOUR HAND as you walk home - not in your pocket or purse, but in your hand and ready to go.
Protect yourself. No guns, no knives, just pepper spray or mace - it works, it's legal and it's easy - and everyone walking out at night should have their spray in their hand, at the ready.
Capitol Hill has changed and we must protect ourselves from violence and harassment. It's up to us. Go today and buy some pepper spray. It could save your life.
And then file the police report. It may not help you personally, but amassing the data does play some part in where SPD decides to dedicate resources, and not ALL LEO's are steroid-addled, control-freaking loose cannons out to compensate for their teeny-tiny penises - some in fact don't even HAVE penises.
That said, I really think some kind of community Safe Walk program could help immensely. The barrier is really working out a feasible and practical implementation/being able to present concrete details instead of vague ideas. It's something I've given a lot of thought to, and will continue to do, because goddamnit I'm tired of resorting to Lyft when I'm out in costume or just generally heading home after a night of revelry.
Do we still agree?
All Hater and Bigots there's nothing to fear so why not LOvE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerry Knight, the victim of a brutal gay bashing last week, had this to say about the SPD's response: “I am really proud of our police department and how seriously they took it,” Knight told Dom. “It reinforced my faith in the police department. They really made me feel safe." No victim of a gay bashing in, say, 1988 could have said anything remotely similar.
In same way vigilante groups like Guardian Angels eventually fizzled even though urban crime hadn't been eradicated, their "pink" knockoffs fizzled even though gay bashings still happen. Because they served their function: they shamed the police and the authorities into doing a better job.
...it seemed to me that he was at peace with the fizzle. And, I'm sure, the Frizzelle. But, all that said, the bottom line is the police do not appear to be doing enough and it's time for the community to come help.
But I shouldn't have to justify it. I'm not gonna let anyone scare me and control my life.
This was a Hate-crime pure and simple. Most people would be appalled to know how often this happens. I know too many people that have been attacked (sometimes multiple times). It's amazing how people forget that harassment, bullying, discrimination, hate, and fear unceasingly oppress queer people.
It's also maddening that Ade feels that filing a report with the police is almost worse than the crime itself. Ade did nothing! Cops victim blame, society victim blames...and then they forget about us. It's just a way of asserting their fucking privelege.
Whether the police can help Ade or any attacked person is definitely debatable, but I applaud Ade for taking it to the press and the Stranger for printing this article. Visibility and discussion of the problems are necessary.
i do feel safe on the hill, safer than i felt when i moved here in 1979. i walk home late at night on occasion, and feel quite safe. this does not mean i discount other people's experience. if i saw someone being assaulted i would have no qualms about giving the attacker a Glasgow kiss (look it up).
i doubt all the drunken assholes cited in this story are from Seattle University. a goodly number may be from UW or perhaps not even college boys at all. but they all got two things in common: they're all MEN and they MUST BE STOPPED.
You can get a pepper spray at amazon that is a combination of mace, pepper spray and uv something or other that will show up under black light. Three-packs were pretty cheap, put one in each bag and coat pocket so you always have it.
His report contributes to the city's crimes statistics, which is then considered during the budget allocation. They can also be used to hold the department accountable. Because it isn't just his report, but the aggregate numbers. If these crimes go unreported, then it is easy for the police to just wave it off, "nobody told us."
I'm a personal trainer with a considerable amount of martial arts training under my belt, and I might be able to entice some of my instructors to hold workshops in basic self-defense on the Hill. No guarantees, but does anyone know whom I might contact on the Hill to at least get some dialogue started?
Absolutely appalled to see the level of trolling occurring on this thread. I see that Seattleblues was among the culprits; any idea who else among our regular posters might have piled on?
Just a side point for the record though, 13th & Cherry is NOT in Capitol Hill, though it's close. This happened in the Minor area of the Central Area (the seedy CD). Gentrification isn't being kind to either neighborhood, though.
Bringing back Q-Patrol and other groups is a great idea, but I doubt they would walk off the Hill to 13th and Cherry.